According to the concept of racialism, I should feel this automatic connection to Denmark because White and deny there are different looks in Europe and different cultures in Europe. I should want to die for some random guy in Estonia because White. According to racialism, some guy in Japan must feel connected to some random in Nigeria because of the "POC" label. Or that a random Black American feel connected to some Somalian "because Black".
Are you jewish? If not politically where on the spectrum do you see yourself?
>>18291410Libertarian streak but not fully because I hate being told what to do and hate being told I automatically "owe" all these randoms. I know some social programs should exist and unions can be good but I hate the whole "YOU MUST DO THIS FOR SOCIETY" borgmind. I also hate all this red tape preventing things from happening.
>>18291400You logic is inconsistent.No one on the green earth calls a Japanese person black.> Or that a random Black American feel connected to some Somalian "because Black".I mean there are some commonalities but a Somalian is not West African, a black American would have more commons with a Nigerian or a Caribbean Black.
>>18291400>different countries have different ways of classifying muttsoh no that must mean something
>>18291417Yeah but why does the Black American "owe" Nigeria? That's what racialism says. That they "owe" the Nigerian for some weird reason. Somalian is not West African but considered "Black" so people assume that Black Americans owe them.
Where did OP get this warped concept of racialism?It's basically just a liking people who are like you more than people who are completely different to you thing.Who do you prefer more, some complete stranger or a cousin?
>>18291417ignoring that replace Nigerian with Chinese, Taiwanese (lol) or Mongolian and it's still dumb
>>18291441But why does not liking Somalia mean I have to "owe" Denmark or feel this artificial similarity due to "race"? My ancestors had nothing to do with Denmark.
>>18291442"if my mother had a cock, she would be my father" ahh logic
>>18291434>Somalian is not West African but considered "Black"nope, Somalians have a lot of Hamitic admixture
>>18291451Okay but why do I owe some rando in Estonia?
>>18291453Yes but ancient admixture isn't counted as "race". People just pretend the categories are pure and call it a day.
>>18291458>Yes but ancient admixture isn't counted as "race".Define race, then.
>>18291451if my mother was an unrelated stranger she may as well be
>>18291462and what relation does Ireland have to Bosnia? Or Britain have to Greece?
>>18291449Yeah that's what I don't get, where did OP get this weird notion that racialism implies owing anything
>>18291475Should have made it clear but that is my argument, if she wasn't related why would I care anymore than if she were any other kind of stranger?
>>18291400>According to racialism, some guy in Japan must feel connected to some random in Nigeria because of the "POC" labelAre you a sub 80 retard?
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>>18291509It owes pretending everyone in the white category is the same, feeling an artificial connection to every type of white person and dying in the name of whiteness for some far off ethnostate. They call you delusional if you think all whites aren't the same. >>18291533You should care more about your relative but an Irish caring about Ireland doesn't necessarily have to give a fuck about Germany just "because white"
>>18291592Oh the mutt problemwhite is meaningless it's just some outsider's perspective at classification.we're all from quite distinct ethnic clusters.A frog and a krout are both white but will happily murder each otehr over land
>>18291603This means nothingYou and your sibling are objectively the same family and might have a quarrel or murder each other that doesn't mean suddenly either has to prefer, is more related to or resembles more a Bantu from Senegambia.>>18291400All constructs are social.Categorization and language is a social construct Things are what they are, not what a term and boundary is trying to define them as
>>18291400It's mostly just Americans who are obsessed with racial cathegorizations and apply it globally. Not that there is no racism in other countries but it's usually done over different axes and it's usually less rigid. Like, Eastern Europeans may hate Gypsies but don't really think much about who counts as a Gypsy, the attitude is more like "I know one when I see one".Also the topic is usually considered inpolite and personal. From a non-American pov, it's insane that in the US, you have to check race on official documents. It's insane that you can get scholarships based on race. It's insane that in American schools, they have activities where kids have to make presentations on their ethnic background.This must be a lingering effect of colonial times, when "American" wasn't yet a national identity, but everyone was a migrant from Europe, and there was a whole racial caste system. But also South America had the same things and they got over this shit better then Americans somehow. You have been a country for 250 years now, start to act like it.
>>18291622>Is america fault that Europeans invented racialism, traded over 12 million black slaves, colonized Africa, Asia and the Americas, genocided countless people of color and then established apartheid, segregated or very colonial administrations and governments.>america forced euromutts to do the Circassian genocide, Holocaust, Namibian genocide, Bengal famine, transatlantic slave trade, and countless genocides o algo.>Europeans that killed over 30 millions of each other in racial wars actually don't believe in that shit o algo, here in Germany we don't do racism (only after american occupation btw)South america is not the same as the US btw, america was a settler colony. South America are hispanized peripheries.
>>18291400Racialism is just reality lol.
>>18291441It's called poisoning the well. They get introduced to the idea as " the only people who believe this idea are murderous nazi monsters " and then when they have a negative opinion of it they will accept and respond to the most distorted strawman of the position that barely resembles the original>>18291449Why do you "owe" anything more to your relatives than total strangers?That said, rather than owing, the concept is more about prioritising/prefering/caring for/loving.The reason why humans are naturally predisposed towards prioritising/prefering/caring for/loving both relatives more than complete strangers and members of the same ethnic group or race than people from a totally different part of the world is because both these behaviours are example of prioritising those who are more genetically similar to you over those who are less genetically similar to you and humans (along with animals in general) evolved to be predisposed towards prioritising those who are more genetically similar to them because it's a successful evolutionary strategy because it means that you will increase the number of your genes in the next generation by helping those who share more genes with you.So actually "racialism" or "racism" isn't an ideology that was invented, rather it's an expression of naturally evolved worldwide human behaviour to prefer those who are more genetically similar to us , which is ultimately the same reason why humans are naturally predisposed to love their family members more than strangers.
Is he white in Brazil?
>>18291727But your extended family is your ethnicity not your race. Pakistan and Northern India are the same race yet they hate each other to death. It would be weird to say "You owe Pakistan because you are close to them" to a Northern Indian. Culturally the White American has nothing in common with the Islamic Bosnian or with the gun hating current Germany. As for spreading your genes, ethnicity does that better. I share ANF and Yamnaya with Denmark though nothing actually recent. It would be like saying I have genes in common with Armenia because I have CHG. It's weird
>>18291400There isn't different cultures in Europe the deeper in history you go. Everyone used to be brother and sister from the same tribe.
>>18291400I hope you know that your a product of propagandahttps://juliusevola.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/14-juliusevolathepathofcinnabar.pdfpage 164
>>18291400>According to the concept of racialism, I should feel this automatic connection to Denmark because White and deny there are different looks in Europe and different cultures in EuropeIf you were in prison (high stress environment) you'd absolutely group with other whites this way. Visual similarities strongly affect ingroup bias the same way people get glad when their kids look similar to their parents.Also Western cultures are all related. Identical? No. But they share common language roots, pagan religions, royal families, christianity, genetics etc
>>18291400Race and IQ are just participation trophies under a different name, they're intellectual poison that teach young men that they don't actually have to put in work to accomplish anything because someone else that happens to have the same skin color as them already accomplished something for them.
>>18291400Yes race is biological.No, a Japanese man would not feel connection to a nigerian. Japanese are a completely separate biospirit from nigerians. Dumb faggot.Yes you should feel a loose connection to an Estonian, or Brit, orSwede, German, etc but our people are deeply poisoned and plagued by antiwhite dogma driving a fierce self loathing and hatred.Race is not a social consttuct. Society is one's culture extrapolated upon their environment, culture is the physical expression of your innate biospirit. Drop 100 chinese in a ju gle and tbey will make china. Same for French making France. Brazilians brazil.Denying this is pure retardation.
>>18292166>Yes race is biological>"biospirit"lmao
>>18291603>A frog and a krout are both white but will happily murder each otehr over landYes because of antiwhite dogma about one of them being the most and true White.If both were White positive they'd reconcile the issue so both parties benefit without needless death.
Racialism is more about different races than commonality among people of the same race.
>>18291622>From a non-American pov, it's insane that in the US, you have to check race on official documents. It's insane that you can get scholarships based on raceOh yuh. Cause this TOTALLY doesn't happen in Europe bro.We believe ya.Obsessive faggot.
>>18292170Not an argument.Try again.
>>18292150In a prison environment with other races sure. In the pre 1900s world where people just lived in their villages? Probably not. The automatic alliance to people due to race alone is a product of multiculturalism. In an all white environment you don't really feel some random tie to Denmark or Estonia.
>>18292166People of the same race can make a different culture. Drop Bosnians off in Africa and they form Bosnia. Drop Russians off and they may make the communist USSR again. Drop Germans off and they either form a liberal hellhole or a Nazi zone. White nationalists want to destroy all the unique cultures of Europe and lump them all into the same boat. Different European countries have different cultures and personalities. They are not one big interchangeable thing
Racial discord is militaristic doctrine of d/c used amongst the slaves considering the ruling class themselves descend from a blood lineage of Black patriarchssubverted by pretense, machiavellian tactics of placing the field nigger(black) and house nigger (white) at oddsmodern history is simply driven by the precedent of white people determined to secure its house nigger status as that helps keeps these affairs functionalwhite identity is a meme, always has been
>>18291441This doesnt even make sense. A white groyperfag(rare) has more in common with an Ethiopian or Egyptian christian(or even a muslim) than they do a white communist.
>>18291400 There is a biological basis for what we may call race (though we shouldn't, because the term has baggage), but Race is also a very obviously socially constructed notion. And I will go as far as to say that 'race' as viewed by almost anyone on earth has never existed. Ideology adds a further layer rof obfuscation to this because now you have people pushing for something concrete.In short, what you are railing against is not really the phenotypic basis for Race the social construct. But the social construct and its current associations. Modern race discourse is very pan-racialist and solidarist because of historical accident (side-effect of the U.S collapsing all its migrant ethnoi into color blocs, the cold war, and the post WW2 world order), not because it inherently must be so.
>>18291414I mean you don't have to do anything, but race is a biological reality, and the psychological reality is that people in society want to feel connected with other people they have things in common with.You don't owe anything to other people of your genetic background, but for most of us, kinship and trust is easier with people who resemble us and share our values and genetics then with people who don't.We just want a sense of purpose and community in our short time on this earth, and multi-culturalism doesn't really provide that same sense of identity and purpose for us.Maybe you don't feel tied to your ancetral background, but the biological fact is you are the culmination of your genetics, and I think you're doing yourself a great disservice by betraying that biological basis of who you are, and all the choices your ancestors made to get you here.You are free to do what you want, but if you make a choice which contradicts your own existence, people can and will shame you for it, because it's unhealthy, and honestly kind of sad to watch at this point.
>>18292765I exist whether I talk to most people or not though. Existing is a given. I don't have to do anything to exist. Existing just happens.
>>18292765What if I care about my origins so much I don't want everything grouped as the same? The Polish are not Irish and neither are Nigerians.
Socialism is gay and retarded and how you arrive at nonsense like "race isn't real"
>>18292150>If you were in prison (high stress environment) you'd absolutely group with other whites this wayMaybe in the badly run prison systems that are basically torture chambers.
>>18291727>" the only people who believe this idea are murderous nazi monsters "That's not entirely false. Generally the people who harp on about race are pieces of shit.
>>18292179Schizo post
>>18291400Race isn't real, it's American cope. Haplogroups are real.
>>18293052Poland and East Germany have similar genes but Poland isn't White but East Germany is. It's retarded.
>>18293052>Capitalism is when you kill niggers
>>18293052Hitler determines race and so does National Socialism. Hitler was a socialist.
>>18291400>I should want to die for some random guy in Estonia because White.A number of people literally have to die to maintain our open border immigration policy with the Islamic world and Africa. Whereas Estonian immigrants often have lower crime rates and higher IQ than the native population. With Somalian immigration your neighborhood turns into a ghetto where it isn't safe to go out at night and your car keeps getting broken into.>some guy in Japan must feel connected to some random in Nigeria because of the "POC" label. Or that a random Black American feel connected to some Somalian "because Black".They are all allies, they nearly all vote the same way, they all vote for DEI to racially discriminate against white people for not being "diverse".You can virtue signal all you want, you can support "diversity" and deny there are any differences between the races to avoid getting cancelled like that Dilbert guy, but it doesn't change the facts.
>>18293883I'm surprised Myanmar is so high in that list, I thought SEAs were orderly people.
>>18293883>A number of people literally have to die to maintain our open border immigration policy with the Islamic world and Africa.Who says I want open borders??? Or mass migration? I don't owe Somalia either. I don't feel altruistic at all to other races but don't feel a natural alliance to some random Estonian or Dane "because white". I wouldn't care if Somalia drowned. >They are all allies, they nearly all vote the same way, they all vote for DEI to racially discriminate against white people for not being "diverse".This is an artificial concept. In the 80s, Asians voted Republican. Only Gen Z and Zillennials who were raised in the 2010s think the retarded post 2008 politics is normal. The system doesn't give them affirmative action so they're pretty dumb.
>>18293924>dude I don't care 'bout nothin' broWell it is exactly because of this nihilistic attitude that everything turns to shit and people die.You say you are "libertarian", well, what is advantageous to the individuals isn't always advantageous to the group, and ironically individuals benefit more by being part of a group that is able to at least make small personal sacrifices for the group.Littering for example. Wherever you go if you see litter all over the roadside it usually means you are living around minorities, specially Indians and their close relatives the gypsies for some reason. However it doesn't end there, it affects every aspect of society, if you buy from a white person you can be reasonably sure they did not shape your dumplings using their armpits, yet in India it is the norm. When Boeing started hiring Indians to fulfil its DEI quotas, these Indians conducted their ethnic nepotism and begin hiring other Indians and outsourcing tasks to India, such as software and it was this faulty software from India that caused the 737 MAX to randomly nosedive resulting in 347 fatalities.The libertarian utopia you imagine turns into a comical dystopia with Indians, not the clean white 1950s suburban neighborhoods you imagine, which is only possible with high trust high IQ low crime white folks.
>>18293951I don't have to import Indians. What if we don't import anyone but not force me to feel allegiance to random whites? Also in libertarianism I can make my own towns and alllow who I want to live there. I can create my own mini paradise
>>18291630Brazil colonization was settler colonialism same as the USA. Search what the Bandeirantes were. The Portuguese went to Brazil to settle, not to loot like the Spaniards. There was nothing in Brazil to loot. The tribes were stone age savages. Only in the North of Brazil there was plantantion economics. In the South of Brazil it was all settler colonialism.Uruguay and Argentina were also settler societies but there it wasn't the Spanish, it was post-independence settlers.
The biggest problem is humans are a tribal species. Asking people to not see differences is impossible. It's why racism and every other ism will never go away.
>>18293923That's because you are a racist fuck
>>18294166Racialism destroys the diversity of Europeans. It pretends Ireland and Latvia are the same. It asks all heritages to be collapsed into one blob
>>18294166England isn't the tribe of Ireland. Poland isn't the tribe of Norway.
>>18291400>racialismWhere are you getting racialism from?>deny there are different looks in Europeno one does this but those who do this are wrong.>I should want to dieno?>according to racialismWhat is racialism? who holds racialism besides (You)?Japanese and Africans do not feel a natural draw.Nor do East Africans and West Niger-Congo."racialism" isnt real, you made it up.>>18291434>that's what racialism saysWhere? Who is "racialism" where does it "say" this?
>>18294182>Racialism destroys the diversity of Europeans. It pretends Ireland and Latvia are the same. It asks all heritages to be collapsed into one blobliterally who does this?The Nazis didnt do this.The Anthropologists of the 19th century didnt do this.modern identitarians do not do this.
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>>18293966If you make your libertarian towns, the Federal Government will invade you and fill them with Jeets all the same. Which means you need an army to defend yourself which means you need government.Dumbfuck.
>>18294483Okay so that's an argument for libertarianism because in libertarian land I can make my own mini country by county laws
>>18293052Explain how a jap and a brit are different races while a Nilotic, Bantoid, and Khoi-San are the same race. Use genetic evidence, faggot. No vibes bullshit.
>>18291400Race is a biological realityAnd since it's a spectrum, a same individual can be classified differently depending on the observer's criteria.Just like one same color can be seen as orange or as red by different people, without it meaning that red and orange do not exist.
>>18294790it isn't tho, race is a made up concept that was used to justify slavery/colonialism
>>18294795There are numerous quantifiable genetic distinctions between different races of people relative to the climate their ancestors lived in, ignoring this fact is what makes people not trust modern science in any capacity.>>18292814How you exist is what defines you as a man, if you exist in a way that lacks decency and honor, you should be shamed.>>18292825Then do that. The idea is freedom of association based around a healthy ideal. For me personally, I define myself generally as Celtic, therefor grouping people into the common White denominator isn't too bad, though yes, I do want to preserve my own people from the British Isles, even distinct from other Europeans at times.
