And I am tired of pretending a bunch of Arvanite Albanoids and Arabs introduced by Ottomans are the kind of Alexander and Achilles.
get over it
>>18293323My point. They neither look or clust or behave as Hellenez because they aren't Hellenes but an unholy mix from Arab with Turk and Albanian.
>>18293329yea sure maybe. but in any scenario they sure as hell were not nordic
>>18293321They were basically EEF + Anatolian with a culture and some Y DNA from Steppe peoples. I don't know why this even matters except for internet headcannon inserts about history.
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>>18293333Their phenitype was Nordic.The descriptions of their gods, heroes and kings tell us about a Nordic original population in the today usurped land of Hellas. Which clust with the vivacity of Hellenic spirit.
>>18293321Trajan was Spanish, from a landlord family of oliveyard owners in today Andalucia. That phenotype is quintessentially Baskid.
>>18293346phenotype is irrelevant genotype is everything and legends are bullshit anybody can write whatever they want. ancient wops were wops same as modern wops except browner because they had no byzantine slavic admixture. get over it
>>18293321no known nordic ever achieved anything resembling achievements of ancient greeks, despite the wealth and modern technology available in recent centuries. your cultural inferiority complex is understandable but unfounded. get a life fatty
>>18293355nta i always thought emperors born outside of italy were from patrician italian families. were there actually "ethnic" emperors?
>>18293355Spaniards were raped by Arabs for 8 centuries. An impure bloodline.>>18293356Phenotype is everything. That's why I would prefer Zidane over any Pajeetoid with Aryan Y-DNA from Bronze Age rape.>>18293358World in itself was created by Nordics. Aryans were purest breed Nordics. Hellenes were of Nordic race. Romans were Nordics. The founders of Russia and European states were of Nordic race. Gengis Khan hinself was ginger.
>>18293365uh huh, whatever varg>ydnagenetic surname irrelevant most of the time, autosomal is everything
>>18293346That statue doesn't look ''nordic'', nordic people have huge foreheads and short noses, that statue has a short forehead and a nose that takes most of his face, that's a mediterranean phenotype. He also has curly hair, not the thin straight hair of nordoidsYou ''nordic'' 4chin incels hate yourself so much it's unreal
>>18293321>this imageIs it faceblindness, autism, or just trolling. I can't even tell anymore.
This is turkroach thread. /his/ is quite infested lately
>>18293365>Gengis Khan hinself was ginger.should be called Ginger Khan then. do something with your life loser, you'll care less about deaders from 3000 years ago
>>18293377clearly trolling tbf don't think anybody buys into march of the titans stuff anymore
>>18293377it's obviously trolling
>>18293368>>18293374Just so you know, yes, Greek heroes were blond, as Homer explicitly testifies in the Iliad.Yes, Hellenes were Nordics.You are Byzantine/Ottoman Era Turkish, Arvanite, Armenian and Arabic colonists melting pot living in the ruins of a Nordic civilization.
>>18293385>Nordic civilization.why can't you build it in Sweden then? not hot enough?
>>18293381>>18293384There's clearly a strong overlap in trolling and autistic characteristics.
>>18293385you lost. get over it
>>18293360All Spanish carry a lot of Roman DNA, the only purebreed pre-Romance Iberians are Basques. Also, Iberians after Italics and Anatolians, adopted Roman culture, identity and claims of Roman origins more than anyone else.Strabo said:> "The Turdetanians ... and particularly those that live about the Baetis, have completely changed over to the Roman mode of life; with most of the populace not even remembering their own language any more."[16]
>>18293397how about the ones born elsewhere?
>>18293321the core? Yes, they came from the north, from the steppe.All the populace? No, they were mixed-type of Nordic named Mediterraneanid.
>>18293385I was just in Greece until a few days ago, you can see many bearded older gentlemen who literally look like the statues of Epicurus or Aristotle. When I was in Germany I never thought ''wow this guy looks like an ancient greek'' because they look NOTHING like those statues, they have completely different features, short noses, big forehead, thin straight hair, more squarish faces, and so on. But again, why do you hate yourself so much is the question here? Nordic civilization is an oxymoron, they couldn't even build it themselves in northern Europe
By trying to claim others' history, you're just admitting you're ashamed of actual Nordic history.
“But to us, Apollo, splendid in your golden hair, grant in your own contests”- [Pindar, Odes ; 472 B. C]“Never, never, Lady Artemis, golden-haired child of Zeus, may I endure that slavery.”- [Euripides, Phoenician woman ; 411 B.C]>>18293388Scandinavian nations are at the top of the world at Human development, Innovation and technological development, education and economic prosperity. Just as the Hellenes before hordes of Arabs wiped them out. >>18293393Memes are not an argument. I accept your concession, brownoid.>>18293397A raped race that submitted to Arabs from Carthage, then to Nordic Romans amd Germans, and finally to Arabs again for eight centuries.
>>18293409you were btfo within the first five posts, im just laughing at you now
>>18293407>I was just in Greece until a few days ago, you can see many bearded older gentlemen who literally look like the statues of Epicurus or Aristotle.Brown Arab we wuzzery is getting funny
>>18293409>Scandinavian nations are at the top of the world at Human development, Innovation and technological development, education and economic prosperity.but none of it awesome, it's outright bland and soulless
>>18293411Go and cry somewhere else, brownoid.
>>18293419get over it billybob
>>18293414Says the guy who think curly haired people with actual noses instead of the short piggish nose of nordoids can be found in Germany more than in Greece, keep hating yourself kid, you will never be med
>>18293414Mediterraneans are not Arabs. They are mainly European in terms of autosomal DNA, haplogroups, and phenotypes.Many renowned scientists agree with this. Even though there is admixture, they share a core with Nordics. Do you think you know better than everyone in this field?
>>18293423this retard is posting descriptions of gods (!) from 3000 years ago as rebuttals to genetic studies, what do you think?
>>18293422>>18293423"Med", good way to cope with your Arab blood. You as nothing but Christianized Muslims.
>>18293409Having blonde hair doesn't mean being ''nordic'' (even leaving aside the fact that those are fictional entities). If I was as relentlessly stupid as you are I could say that dark hair = med and claim literally tens of millions of northern europeans as ''med'', but that would be utterly idiotic, which is what all your posts are
>>18293425>you c-can't use descriptions of Hellenes about themselves!!!Uh, the absolute state of brownoids
blonde signified a celestial origin through association with the golden color of the sun, while dark hair didn't because it was the fucking norm. blonde hair is mentioned only in mythological contexts for a reason. these people live in fairy tales
>>18293321>WE WUZLiterally disproven by peer reviewed DNA studies like Lazaridis 2017 and some after it. Modern Greeks carry upwards to 85% of Mycenaean greek dnaNord retards can't cope with the fact they never managed to do anything relevant in history
>>18293440this isn't even blonde, the whole picture is painted in different shades of the same pigment. imagine the desperation
>>18293439Northern European countries received millions of Arabs from Southern Europe, Africa and Asia during the last 2 centuries. An exemplary case is the replacement of Lombards in Northern Italy by Arabs from Naples and Sicily.The replacement of French by Arabs from Spain, Portugal and southern Italy.The replacement of British by Pakis and Jeets.The replacement of Dutch by North African and Turkish Arabs.Etc.
>>18293453>varglolol
>>18293453oh no, the master race can't reproduceeee ;_;
''Arabs from Naples'', oh yeah the famously arab conquered city of Naples. Why do those retards are utterly obsessed with arabs btw? The arabs in Italy were only in Sicily. Sometimes I doubt whether they are delusional nazicels or delusional arab supremacists
>it's another low effort turkomongolic thread
>>18293440>Hellenes about themselves!!!About their gods*, as they described themsleves as having dark hair.
>>18293341>ydna from steppe peoplesAbsolutely not you retarded faggotGreeks/southern italians are E and J
>>18293551Elite graves are mixed, every single european alive today has yamnaya ancestry - fucking retard.
>>18293464Carthage rape, centuries of Arabic porates raping you, all the Oriental inmigrants flooding Italy during Roman Era, shure it didn't impact you, brownoid
>>18293695Steppe ancestry you retarded subhuman historyletYamnaya where only a minor group among all the PIE steppe peoplesAnd you retarded faggot you talked about YDNA in particular, they are E and J meaning they got their steppe ancestry from the female line
>>18293321aren't greens from west turkey?
>>18293464Moors did annex some small parts of southern France and italy for a while They even sacked rome
>>18293715>>18293715>Yamnaya where only a minor group among all the PIE steppe peoplesNo point in even engaging with this level of stupid, Yamnaya Y Dna was J2 along with R1
>>18293718''moors sacked Rome''No they didn't, where do you retards even get this bs from?>>18293710Carthaginians were not ''arabs'', arabs came way later to the area. The ''oriental immigrants'' weren't arabs either, the arabs conquest of those areas happened centuries after the fall of the Roman Empire. You are completely illiterate in basic history, as you'd expect from a mentally ill nordishitter loser on 4chin
>>18293871Italy was flooded by Hellenized Arabs from Syria. The equivalents of Antiquity from Anglofied Jeets, Africans and Pakis that today flood London, Paris, Berlin, etc.The writer Juvenal, speaking of the Roman population, actually points out the Levantine origin of many of these people in his writings, referring to the Syrian River, the Orontes:>“These dregs call themselves Greeks but how small a portion is from Greece; the River Orontes has long flowed into the Tiber”— (Juvenal, III, 62).>"Therefore, when the urban inscriptions show that seventy per cent of the city slaves and freedmen bear Greek names and that a larger portion of the children who have Latin names have parents of Greek names, this at once implies that the East was the source of most of them, and with that inference Bang’s conclusions (Dr. Bang of Germany) entirely agree. In his list of slaves that specify their origin as being outside Italy (during the empire), by far the larger portion came from the Orient, especially from Syria and the provinces of Asia Minor, with some from Egypt and Africa (which for racial classification may be taken with the Orient). Some are from Spain and Gaul, but a considerable portion of these came originally from the East.”>“Very few slaves are recorded from the Alpine and Danube provinces, while Germans rarely appear, except among the imperial bodyguard. Bang remarks that Europeans were of greater service to the empire as soldiers than servants….and this, in turn, helps to explain the strikingly Oriental aspect of the new population.”– Frank, Tenney 1916 `Race mixture in the Roman Empire': AmericanHistorical Review, Volume 21, pp. 700, 701).Italy got infested with Arabs since Ancient days, sadly, the Nordic Roman blood was diluted by Arab inmigrants who ruined Rome and turned it from a prosperous Nordic State of the Middle-Class into a despotical globohomo Oriental Aran despotical shithole.
>>18293893There were no arabs in those areas retard. the arabs conquest happened WAY later, centuries after the roman empire fellAlso lol at ''nordic roman blood'' and ''nordic state'', I hope you are trolling because otherwise it would be really sad. The same nordics who couldn't write/read or build anything better than mudhuts in northern Europe built Rome, sure delusional retard/troll
it seem nordics are capable of building civilizations only in areas where meds live today. hahaha imagine being this retarded and pathetic
>>18293321WE
>>18293993WAZ
ELLENEEEEZ UND SHEIZEEEEE
WHY are Nordicks like this? Why can't they just accept that Meds created Western civilization?
>>18294015because of hitler
>>18293321we wuz romans
>>18293321Those guys taught Americans a lesson that if they are going to engage in violence maxxing, they should bring a shovel, not a camera.
>>18293893>Hellenized Arabs from Syria.>The writer JuvenalI doubt that Greeks from Antioch were J1 Nafufian/Takarkori/Mulatto Araps.>The city was populated by a mix of local settlers that Athenians brought from nearby Antigonia, Macedonians, and Jews (who were given full status from the beginning). According to ancient tradition, Antioch was settled by 5,500 Athenians and Macedonians, together with an unknown number of native Syrians. This number probably refers to free adult citizens, so that the total number of free Greek settlers including women and children was probably between 17,000 and 25,000.[16][9]
>>18293931germnaics were enslaved and yellow hair was the mark of a slavenordicism is nonsense to cope with the reality
>>18293321>NiggrdicGo back to sucking dicks and eating rotten fish, you albino african.Your "people" always been the cancer of Europa. You men and dickless cuck and your women are whores.
>>18293321>Greeks>Trajan
