What was happening here during the Middle Ages?
They were plateau mongols basically.
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>>18295227Bön
>>18295227Basically>>18295720Unless you're interested in buddhist theology and Tibetan religion then not a whole lot. The previous Tibet that marched into China's capital splintered and fell into warring amongst warlords whilst slowly converting to Buddhism and eventually morphing the native religion into Bon. There's some court intrigue and religious debates but Tibet wouldn't really start stepping out again until the monasteries formed and they were somewhat united again which happened after the European Middle ages.
>>18295227lots of boysex
>>18295227A monk, a monkey-like warlord companion, a glutton pig-faced nobleman, an old guide who lived in a swamp, and a few royally-granted soldiers took part in a journey to the west.
>>18295227For all practical purposes? Nothing. This is one of those regions of the world that time forgot until just before WW2.
>>18295227Lots of diddling of teenage boys
>>18296386Tibetans only attacked the Tang dynasty after it was weakened by one massive rebellion in northern China and other unrelated rebellions in southern China.They omly held the capital for a few days and failed to install a puppet Tang prince and were forced to flee.Also that capital was right next to the Tibetan plateau.
>>18295227Buddhism, Yaks, Mongols.>>18296386By the end of the European middle ages the Red Hat sects already existed, iirc. The Ilkhans were advised by a sub-sect of the Kagyu while the Mongols patronized the Sakyas and the first of these happened well before the end of the middle ages. Of course they were all squabbling subsects but it's only a few years after the eve of the 16th century you get Total Gelug Victory and you see them go around evangelizing the more Northern Mongols, Tuvans. They even tried to evangelize the Khakassians, but Russia did not allow it. Then of course you have the Manchus endorsing them, but I feel like that was more an effect of real-politik then them being genuinely pious. I'm not even sure the Qing even tried to spread Tibetan Buddhism.
>>18297017Ok not a few years. A few hundred years. Around three hundred or so between the establishment of the Phagmodrupa and the beginning of the Dalai Lama's reign.Sorry.
>>18297017Ordinary Manchus never followed Tibetan BuddhismManchu emperors used Tibetan Buddhism to control Mongols and held them in contempt, Hongtaiji mocked Mongols for using Tibetan names and said the Tibetan Lamas were incorrigible liars.
>>18297761Raajman, both of us know you made that shit up. It's nowhere in the books you cite in the Wikipedia Article you wrote.Post the quote.
>>18295227Sweaty sex with copper skinned tibetan girls
>>18298260Wtf are you talking about retard?https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HxS7EAAAQBAJ&pg=PT224
>>18298260You dumb ass retard. This is the title>The Cambridge History of China >Volume 9 Part One: The Ch’ing Empire to 1800>General Editors: Denis Twitchett and John K. Fairbank Did your retarded ass search PART TWO instead of PART ONE?https://www.academia.edu/44170430/THE_CAMBRIDGE_HISTORY_OF_CHINA_vol_9>Concern with military conquest, interest in Ming government structure, and recognition of some basic Chinese values did not exclude or diminish Manchu attention to non-Chinese people and cultures. Control over Inner Mongolia gave the Manchus the opportunity to style themselves as protec- tors of Tibetan Buddhism, which helped consolidate their rule over the Mongols and foreshadowed their claim to Tibet. After converting to Bud- dhism during the late sixteenth century, some chiefs of the eastern Mongol tribes had turned their residences into centers of religious and literary activities with ties to the religious authorities in Tibet. The Manchu leaders showed little interest in becoming Buddhists themselves. Hung Taiji did not shy away from condemning Buddhist lamas as “liars,” “incorrigibles,”and “people who squander goods.” 166 But he also took advantage of the Mongols’ adherence to Buddhism. He invited the Fifth Dalai Lama to Shen-yang in 1637, and a year later he completed the construction of a Yellow Temple to house a Buddhist statue which originated from the Yüan period and had belonged to Ligdan Khan. In 1640 he received a letter from the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama in which the two religious leaders recognized him as a bodhisattva and called him “Mañjus ´rı¯–Great Emperor.” 167 However, perhaps aware that reincarnations appealed to Mongols and Tibetans, who were used to the combination of secular rule with religious authority but did not appeal to Chinese Buddhists, Hong Taiji was careful about exploiting this honor. https://pdfcoffee.com/the-cambridge-history-of-china-vol-9-pdf-free.html
>>18296386>>18296872>not a whole lotthis is a great lesson on why you shouldn't take anything people say on here seriously no matter how confidently they say it
>>18299004No. I just missed that one. Anyway, thanks for correcting me. Faggot.
>>18299639Except it's literally fucking true. The Tibetan Empire was relatively short-lived and collapsed and while it's interesting to read about the majority of it's time during the middle ages was spent dealing with internal issues until the mongols came along and even then you'll be spending time reading about Buddhist disciples and diplomatic relationships between Khans and local rulers and political manoeuvres that won't make sense unless you have some cultural understanding. It's not something you that you can cover in a couple 4chan posts and it's not something that has broad appeal unless you're into religious history.
>>18299639why do they have lake baikal several thousand miles west of where it actually is?
>>18299746Lake Baikal isn't in that map. It's a few hundred kilometers to the North of where it ends.>>18299686Xtreme granular nonsense. My favourite. Just like reading about Qing dynasty politics.I love open access research btw.
>>18295700That's actually kinda true, considering that the black plague which killed a third of e*rope originated precisely in central Asia and spread westward through the silk road.
>>18295227Before Buddhism they were cannibals and practiced human sacrifice.
>>18299833I wish this was true.
