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What is it with people who’s ancestors were nowhere near the
US when the Civil War was raging and an extreme fanboying for the Union which they were never a part of? I’m no Confedabro myself but it comes off as a massive disingenuous larp whenever some Ellis Island mystery meat or someone who’s ancestors came across the Mexican border hiding under the tailboard of a pickup truck to pick strawberries posts online about how Sherman didn’t bring enough matches or whatever Reddit babble gets thrown around nowadays. Take the girl in this reel for instance, she’s fucking Asian. Her parents were probably airlifted here from which ever shithole they came from when it collapsed in the 70’s or 80’s. Literally not a single solitary soul in her entire bloodline ever wore that uniform she prances around in or ever held or used a musket (much less knew how to use one or even bloody knew what one WAS). It’s just as cringe as anyone who unironically flies the Confederate battle flag in this day and age, if not worse.
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>>18319949
I'm a WASP Founding Stock whose family settled in the 1600s in the New England and I hate both Confederate traitors as well as Ellis Islanders
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>>18319949
>unlike me, a tourist who only heard about the civil war through some culture war blog back in 2020
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>>18319951
Good! Your Unionism is valid, unlike the miscegenated goblins on Reddit that larp as Yanks.
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>>18319949
They’re trying to pretend democrats were the unionists
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>>18319951
>in the New England
Bloody good larp SAARRR!!!
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>>18319995
I was going to say "In the North" but I haphazardly changed it to say "In New England" without omitting the redundant article that is the universal telltale of thirdies
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CDS (confederacy derangement syndrome) is a completely modern invention. Literally no one gave a shit about the confederacy and its presence in culture from the 1890’s to 2016. In reality anti-confederate sentiments are thinly veiled White-hate and WE WUZ KANGS WHO WUN OUT FREEDUMB!
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>>18319949
Whom are you addressing with this rant?
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I'm only half Ellis Islander, the other half of my ancestors were farming in Illinois back then though they didn't fight in the war.
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>>18320792
>2016
In the Obama era I always remember it being considered tacky and obnoxious to display the Confederate flag, and this was is the swamps of rural Louisiana.
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>>18320813
well that was then and this now in 2026 where state legislators are calling for the repeal of the Civil Rights Act
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>>18319949
I agree. All my ancestors fought for the North and I don’t get the seethe, it’s probably just some stealth anti white shit like the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Plus confederate identity in the south is mostly dead today. People seething about the lost cause probably outnumber those who actually believe in it. Southerners just replaced their confederate identity with a MAGA identity which is probably worse for libtards than the romanticization of a long forgotten past since MAGA lasted much longer than the CSA and actually effects the world today beyond LARPing.
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>>18320821
Confederate identity died by the 1940s when the last remaining war veterans passed away. The transition to the modern South was probably inevitable.
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>>18319999
>digis
I concede
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>>18320813

I almost never saw them and thought they were gross growing up in the 80's deep south.

I actually think the "THE SOUTHERNERS ARE ALL STILL CONFEDERATES" is stealth propaganda for the second civil war.
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>>18320813
Yeah it was tacky back then. Now a days however you'd get death threats and people trying to vandalize your property for flying it.
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>>18319949
Part of assimilating into a culture is to associate yourself with the historical values and myths of that culture. This is why people who are descended from immigrants still celebrate the 4th of July and will talk about how America "kicked out the British". Also, people who consider themselves liberal or progressive, even people who have never lived in America, like to associate themselves with the side that during the civil war fought against the slavers who were fighting so they could keep and expand slavery, and likely imagine if they were around at the time that they would have fought for the Union.
>>18320813
There are sitcom episodes from the 90s about how normal people recognize it is a hate symbol and that creates friction with southerners who grew up around racists and see nothing wrong with it. Rightoids lack the object permanence for anything that happened longer than 6 months ago however so to them any issue they don't understand or agree with is a "modern invention".
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Lately I’d been noting the quality of ACW threads here, how a post will generate lots of intelligent replies and reasoned debate over the most obscure battles, leaders and aspects of the war, without any of the “burnin’ Sherman” or Dixietard tourists. I’m descended from Confederates but would rather sperg out over battles and the everyday life of soldiers than get assblasted over the Lost Cause. My ancestors fought hard, lost, went back to their farms or moved west and tried to cope with the PTSD. I agree that it’s become a proxy for the current year’s culture war—Confederate battle flags next to MAGA banners in the rural Midwest, libtards praising a guy who saw freed slaves as an annoying impediment to his army and led the genocide against plains Indians after the war.
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>>18320813
One of the biggest shows of the 80s was about a group of redneck bootleggers driving a car with the confederate flag on it
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>>18322467
>Part of assimilating into a culture is to associate yourself with the historical values and myths of that culture.
But the same people who obsess over Sherman while LARPing as Union soldiers despite their ancestors having no involvement in it hate everything about American history and culture. They push Critical Race Theory, white guilt, defamation of the Founding Fathers, Injun victimhood narrative, and other beliefs/agendas that demonize the US. Their use of the Civil War and America being a nation of immigrants (despite America ALSO being an evil White supremacist nation that supposedly inspired Hitler's National Socialism*) is a great example of how their interpretation of "good" patriotism or nationalism is utterly self-contradictory and schizophrenic.

*I'm not kidding, I saw people equating America's wars against the Natives to Germany's Holocaust of the Jews multiple times.
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>>18319951
>I'm a WASP Founding Stock whose family settled in the 1600s in the New England
Its amazing how many people like this are those old liberal boomers freaking out about the idea of infinity immigrants not being allowed into the country. The real redpill is realizing just how cucked these white people really are.
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>>18319951
I’m of founding stock from the 1600’s as well, but in Virginia and then down to the Carolinas

Eat a back of shriveled little Irish dicks, you never would’ve won the war without mass immigration and forced conscription
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>>18320815
>state legislators are calling for the repeal of the Civil Rights Act
Never happened.
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Because there's a perception that the current culture/political wars in America can be traced back to issues that were left unresolved from the civil war and reconstruction. So people "re-fight" the war in internet arguments.
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>>18320797
Read what I wrote and then you'll know??
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>>18320821
I've a heard a theory, since it's mostly liberal/leftist types making these types of memes, that's it represents a veiled desire to have their political opponents murdered.
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>>18322795
I concur. There's a meme out there somewhere that I can't find for the life of me. It's a basedjak going "Fuck off" to an American flag and then going "Hurrah for the Union!" once the flag has 1861-1865 and 1939-1945 above it.
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>Sherman is on record numerous times decrying mindless war and factionalism
>People just reduce him to a vicarious chickenshit bloodthirsty meme
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>>18322795
>"I don't celebrate losers."
>celebrates Indigenous People's Day
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>>18320813
Shaggy’s Uncle was a confederate
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>>18322795
>"good" patriotism or nationalism is utterly self-contradictory and schizophrenic.
No shit dude. Greeks don't celebrate the time the Persians invaded and burnt down Athens or when the Turks kicked them out of Anatolia. You make myths about the "good" parts of a country/culture's history not the parts that are embarrassing or make them look bad. Which is again why they like the Union over the Confederacy. Are you new to this planet or something
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>>18319951
You're an irrelevant inbred hick, only used for goystock. The Union is a Dutch creation.
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>>18322467
There’s one thing about it being discussed negatively for its use as a hate symbol in the 90s, a significantly liberal era, to the state of open iconoclasm in the 2010s. If anything you see how elements of the media and culture started acclimating the issue to reach that point, with other examples being gay marriage first “sympathized” in 90s TV shows but not fully being adopted by general public until the 2010s. History does not start with the fall of the Soviet Union, and people notice these changes in mentality that are not necessarily a “natural progression.”
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>>18323177
The First Persian War is significantly celebrated in Greece as a foundation of its identity, as it is abroad as well as a point of pride. Whereas the Greek Genocide is a national tragedy and treated with mourning. Your comparison is retarded, and only could hit the mark tangentially with the few retards who claim Persia was better because uhh they didn’t have as much slavery, which is a firmly foreign viewpoint from retards like John Green. America’s problem with its history is tied to the perpetual culture war, as both sides try co-opting its elements for political gains/validation.
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>>18323403
The Persians burnt down Athens in the Second Persian War, and no, the Greeks do not celebrate that part of it, they celebrate the victories, or at least the losses that make for compelling stories(Thermopylae).
>Greek Genocide is a national tragedy and treated with mourning.
So they don't celebrate it, you mean
>could hit the mark tangentially with the few retards who claim Persia was better because uhh they didn’t have as much slavery
Totally not related to my point even slightly, go be mad about John Green somewhere else. The point is cultures build up their legacies based on things that make them look good and not "that time we fucked up or did something we now regret". I am pretty sure you fully understand this and are pretending not to so you can get mad at immigrants and/or people who make fun of the Confederacy.
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>>18322938
You lost Jethro.
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>>18323177
But the Greeks don't obsess over their negative treatment of Turkish diaspora after independence and they are still proud of their imperial legacy (Alexander, Eastern Rome). Leftist Union LARPers can never stop talking about how evil America was/is and why White people should check their supoosed privilege. If you exhibit so much self-loathing on a national level, how can you consider yourself a patriot?
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>>18323425
>Greeks do not celebrate that part of it
The war ended in victory even with sacrifices, it plays a fundamental part in what makes it a compelling national epic. Generally the 2nd one is weighed higher than the first war for that reason.
>So they don’t celebrate it
It was something inflicted to them by a foreign power, being part of the national mythos with a physical legacy through families that can trace themselves from victims.
>Cultures build their legacy on things that look good
Yes when the culture is actively being changed and morphed by a specific political faction. France’s Republicanism and discouragement of ties to the ancient regime, or Turkey’s explicit rejection of its war crimes are two examples of an artificial national history. Before, Americans recognized the Civl War as formative, actively deciding to reconcilate with the South over trying to press it down on their head post reconstruction. But now it has been adopted by the country’s ideological factions to either insist on an iconoclastic removal of any secessionist monuments or the more defensive effort to keep them. All I will say is good luck forming a national identity without a larger overarching culture. This can also inversely be negative, such as some guy who’s family in Oaxaca weighing zero importance or even being able to name the Normandy Landings. It all becomes arbitrary history.
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what is the mental process of taking a picture like this?
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From the 1890s up until the 21st century, Americans cobbled together a kind of soft Lost Cause myth to preserve national unity. Confederates took the wrong side in a brother vs. brother feud, a tragic misunderstanding, as noble cavaliers led brave yeomen in a doomed struggle. After a heroic bloody conflict, the Good Guys won, we shook hands and we’re all Americans now. Southerners kept their pride, Yankees too, as they had defeated the greatest American warriors ever, not a rabble of barefoot toothless chuds. Dixoids could keep their Heritage as long as they didn’t use it in vulgar displays of racism, and most importantly, as long as they kept sending their sons off to war.
Even Ellis Islanders bought into this narrative as just another American myth but the civil rights movement and post 1965 immigration built to a critical mass that finally congealed into Dixie hate and neoconfederate reaction.
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>>18319949
I think the Union-side of the civil war has caught on as a memetic thing among passionate liberals-to-leftists as a more militant version of the civil rights movement.
The Civil War can be thought of as a conflict where 'progress' and anti-racism won out against 'reaction' and 'bigotry,' much like the CRM of the 1950s-60s.
But as people militarize and turn against the concept of incremental change in favor of direct, even forceful, action - the civil war becomes the mythologized victory of liberal/left "ism."

I say this as a Vermont Yankee who's very pro union btw
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>>18319949
I'm Italian, Irish and Mexican, do I get a say in this?
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>>18323427
I think we all lost…
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>>18320813
In the 1990s it was considered okay to fly it at rock concerts and festivals. It was just seen as having a bit of rebellious spirit, similar to the Eureka flag for Australia.

>>18322467
>Part of assimilating into a culture is to associate yourself with the historical values and myths of that culture.

Look carefully, they just interpret the entire civil war as white supremacists being slaughtered and taking an L, and they cheer for that and only that. These people praising Sherman going brutal during reconstruction wouldn't dare want similar authoritarianism when some modern Democrat state defies the executive branch today.

It'd be like if white people settled in China, and bizarrely only celebrated the time the Qing put down a Han-Nationalist uprising in the Chinese south. If this happened against the backdrop of declining Han-Chinese numbers and a nascent Chinese nationalist movement, people would rightfully interpret it as contempt for the Chinese people. These Asian women gloating about dead confederates hate white people, it's as simple as that.
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>>18322467
CDS wasn’t American culture tho. Reuniting the country was. In the 1900s, we switched from blue uniforms to green ones, a mixture of blue and grey, to show unity. The 29th infantry division mixed the blue and the gray during WW1 to show unity. My family in NY was pretty indifferent to the south and their civil war history during the 20th century and even thought the whole rebel aesthetic was cool, and loved movies like Gone With the Wind.

Modern confederate hate is pretty much entirely a libtard invention that started developing around the 2000s. They want to “reconstruct” conservative parts of the US and (anachronistically) identify themselves with the federals of the 1860s. Ironically if their version of reconstruction had actually happened, we’d probably be a divided shithole by the 1900s instead of a powerful empire. (They probably would like that though since at the end of the day their hatred stems mostly from anti-American and anti-white commie seethe not patriotism)
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>>18324158
I see it as similar to how Ulster unionists look up to people like William III even though he’d have no fucking idea what modern politics, states, or a “Northern Ireland” were.
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>>18324118
>These Asian women gloating about dead confederates hate white people
Perhaps in their mind, but never in their loins.
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>>18324205
No way! Young sheldons dad fucked tam's mom
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abolitionists were the SJWs of their day they were also mostly from New England the most pozzed and liberal region of the country even back then. Massachusetts was the only state in 1860 which more or less allowed blacks full legal rights.
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>>18319949
My family fought for the north. The confederacy sucked, and there are many many "heritage Americans" in the north who vote democrat and hate everything the confederacy stood for.
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>>18324265
Who do the rural areas in the north (the only place where true, yankee Americans still exist, since urban areas are totally overtake by Ellis Islanders) vote for? Because it sure as shit isn’t libtards.

Ohio, the home of both Grant and Sherman, is a solid republican voting state. All of the states that won the war for the North with their massive agricultural lands and provided much needed manpower to the war effort (Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania) all voted for Trump last election.
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>>18324277
Trump is an "ellis islander" and what have you got against them? They have become so assimilated that they are indistinguishable to wasps..
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>>18324291
They don't defer to the people who created the country their unwashed poorfag ancestors scurried away to.
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>>18324291
Just pointing out that the their union LARP is nothing more than a LARP, with little to do with the actual history of their ancestors and is mostly just built off anti-white commie hatred.

I mean if these fags can seethe about the “lost cause” bullshit and how southerners look up to their ancestuhs n shiet, then I can remind them that their ancestors were probably doing commie shit in Sicily while the actual war was going on.
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>>18324277
Not every republican is a lost causer, a lot of northern republicans are proud their ancestors fought for the union, and lots of democrat politicians can trace their ancestry to very early colonial period. Not to mention all the Black people whose ancestors are also from the colonial period who detest the confederacy. Odd they never get brought up in these heritage discussions. Lots of them can trace their ancestry back to early white settlers too.
>>18324297
My ancestors fought in the civil war and I say the Confederacy sucked and cosmopolitanism is great so I guess they can defer to me.
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>>18324297
>>18324301
Italians made spaghetti western, what more could you want, you unwashed hillbilly pigs.
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>>18324332
The John Wayne western is far more American than that Sergio Leone commie shit.
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>>18324321
I’m one of them, all my ancestors fought for the north, and I don’t like it when commies use my ancestors in their anti white crusade shit while their ancestors were doing pozzed commie shit in Sicily, Ukraine, and the balkans.

Blacks don’t get factored in because most of them acted as farm equipment while white men fought and died for their freedom.
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>>18324354
It was the founders who opened immigration and citizenship to all Europeans. If they wanted to limit it to Anglo Saxons or Britons they could have but they didn't. And the descendants of the founders passed the reconstruction amendments. The current multiracial state of the US is the product of WASP thought and law. You are not embracing our intellectual heritage so much as rejecting it.
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>>18324350
Leone made movies that didn't smell like horse manure and cheap patriotism. Sorry if you just have shit taste.
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>>18323946
Was your family here before April 1865? If not, then fuck no.
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>>18323946
woah nick fuentes browses /his/?
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>>18324354
My ancestors were actual communists from the Balkans and I stand with Johnny Reb o7
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>>18324430
All came 1880-1910, we built your skyscrapers.
>>18324439
No, he and I have beef.
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>>18324443
then you stand with america since apparently there never was a war according to lincoln
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>>18319949
Without the Union's victory they never would've become citizens at all.
Also, something like damn-near half the Union Army's total composition was literal fresh-off-the-boat foreigners bribed with food, clothing and shelter to go fight the the Fed.
There's a whole song from the period rooted in a radical political movement that references it called, "The Irish Wide Awake."
So basically Spiteful Mutants like Atun-Shei make a living LARPing as Massachussets men when none of his family tree were even involved in the war and he's lived most of his adult life in New Orleans. He did grow up in Mass on the New England coast, yeah, but his mother was mystery meat and his dad I believe was Czech or something.
All the sudden Confederate Hate within the Alt-Right is manufactured PsyOp as well. The Jew fears things that would actually break their power
>a decentralized system against federalized banking or imperialism run by a high-trust society of some of the most elite parts of the American Race
so they have to steer you away from it when they can't delegitimize it.
Every other Alt-Right position is either irrelevant or is never gonna catch on in the Anglosphere anyway because of the very nature of Anglophones. They would rather be a minority and keep democracy and their civil rights than live in a 100% White Collectivist Militant Ethnostate that forcibly assigns you a job or drags you into the military - no matter how much Americans love their military.
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>>18320792
Co-fucking-Rekt.
Everyone - and I mean everyone - thought the CSA was Based or at least respectable. The outliers are a handful of embittered Radical Republicans historically who quickly got over it by the beginning of the 20th century.
Amazing what's possible in a High-Trust, White Society.
We can just get over our mutual grievances and be friends.
It was Chabad PsyOps and the enfranchising and embittering of Nons that made us all unable to enoy things.
I've worked wtih GAR guys as an SCV chud and frankly none of them have the kind of hate for us, our organization, or people like these fucking mongrels do.
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>>18320813
Up here in the Hill Country of LA it wasn't like that. But Cajuns have always had a weird relationship with the rest of the state.
If it's not Cajun Country you're referring to
>y'know where the swamps mostly are
Then you're talking about I-10 people. The only thing that unites Kaintuck and Cajon/Creole stuck is a burning hatred of everything and everyone around I-10.
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>>18320821
>confederate identity in the south is mostly dead today
Because Dixians are mostly dead or have diaspora'd. Almost no one I know who isn't a genuine genetic dead-end still lives in my hometown. I chose to come back and I regret it. There's nothing left. IDK what they did during the COVID but I am convinced they bussed the entire Non-White World in here and every Homeless drug addict they could snatch.
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>>18320823
>died in the 1940s
It was alive and well in the 2010s here, I can promise you. It was around 2016 things began to markedly change honestly.
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>>18322356
I have Rebel stuff up all the time, nobody ever tells me shit or does me anything.
Some of y'all are just cowards.
Any coward who will fly around a Battle Flag but won't stand up and literally fight for it or over it if push comes to shove has the same low moral character as a Back the Blue faggot flying a Gadsden.
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>>18323146
Fun-fact he actually during a speeh he gave (can't remember where) got very angry in his old age because someone played, "Marching Through Georgia," because he hated the song because he felt like gloating over the South was as unchivalrous as Southerners ungraciously bitching about the outcome of a war we started.
He also didn't like, "Battle Hymn of the Republic," saying that when he heard it sung by his troops as they were leaving a burning Savannah on the horizon it simply never sounded the same to him again.
I would literally trade every single Sherman-Poster for an actual army of Shermans invading my State today. One is actually respectable and could fight, the other, well - yeah.
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>>18324796
I-20*
It's late and I'm a bit drunk.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
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>>18324815
Grant recommended he arm slaves in Georgia to instill terror amongst civilians, for there were few things they feared more than the possibility of an armed slave revolt, but Sherman wouldn't go that far and didn't carry out that part of the plan.
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>>18324832
The only thing Sherman hated more than rebels, ironically, was niggers.
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>>18320792
Yankees in the gilded ages and early-mid 20th century were literally obsessed with rebels and the south for example, completely the opposite of what faggots with CDS would have you believe. They consumed the fuck out of movies like Birth of a Nation and Gone With the Wind and thought Johnny Reb was just cool af in the same kind of way we think Vikangz were epic warriors and shit.

Shit, Kentucky Horse breeders and race track owners even had to LARP as confederates with confederate flags and shit even though confederate raids were responsible for almost destroying the Kentucky horse breeding industry in the mid 1800s and they were a pro-union region, because otherwise Yankees wouldn’t think they were authentically southern enough to purchase horses from.
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>>18322795
>*I'm not kidding, I saw people equating America's wars against the Natives to Germany's Holocaust of the Jews multiple times.
What is the issue?
Actually the treatment of the American Indians is way worse because it lasted for centuries, where the Holocaust was merely ~5 years at the max, and less for the height. And itself was wrapped up in the general slaughter of Slavs, gypsies, and other Eastern Europeans.
Where the American Indian Genocide was directed and lasted for centuries in a slow and steady grind.
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They just hate white people. They don't actually care about slavery, the Holocaust, or any of that shit. Its really simple actually
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>>18324920
>Shit, Kentucky Horse breeders and race track owners even had to LARP as confederates with confederate flags and shit even though confederate raids were responsible for almost destroying the Kentucky horse breeding industry in the mid 1800s and they were a pro-union region, because otherwise Yankees wouldn’t think they were authentically southern enough to purchase horses from.
Kentucky has always been a culturally Southern state but they didn't secede because they had valuable economic ties to Ohio and Indiana.
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>>18319949
It's just you. New arrivals are too busy building America's future to care about dusty old rivalries like Yankees vs Confederates
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>>18325337
As Kaczynski so eloquently pointed out liberals don't actually care about the things they claim to care about. They aren't fighting for Indians, or jews, or any of that. Its all performative virtue signalling and white guilt. Luxury beliefs
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>>18320807
This was the smart move. It was a retard's struggle and ultimately only destructive. At least when America was white and functional it gave them normgroids a sense of the Homeric. Raped kikeslaves do not deserve the Homeric or a heritage so even that is being taken from them both.

Ellis islander skinwalkers now disgrace long dead men uninhibited and unprovoked even. Dixoids are raped, yankees are raped.
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>>18319949
My great great great great uncle was a union general (a notoriously bad one) and my dad is even named after him. My family has a lot of civil war memorabilia, including a massive silk sash that was worn by another ancestor who was a surgeon in the union army. No one in my family does this ridiculous union LARP. It is only for people whose family connections to the United States are so shallow that they have something to overcompensate for.
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>>18319951
The real Yankees hated the southerners for bringing blacks here in the first place. Pick your own damn cotton.
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>>18325433
>New arrivals are too busy building America's future
The new arrivals are cannibalizing a corpse.
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>>18325545
>My great great great great uncle was a union general (a notoriously bad one)
Hi, Mike Sigel.
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>>18325545
Cool. I have ancestors on both sides of the family who fought as enlisted men, one for Ohio and one for New York. The latter became kind of a folk hero in his little town. His lore was passed down all the way to my grandparents who still have some of his stuff at their house.

To me the modern Union LARP is extremely cringe. Nobody in my family ever held the intense kind of hatred expressed against the confederates that people do online.
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i like this thread, looking at americans talking to eachother is cute, even if 2 of them might be indian :)
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>>18322818
Mostly has to do with class distinctions between different groups of whites. I'm not sure who does that kind of analysis that blends racial with class analysis (other than Sakai, but less hostile to Europeans) and I'm not asking chatjeetpt for the answer.
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>>18322985
Any literature on this subject?
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>>18320815
Read this
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>>18324400
How do you know what shit tastes like, Mario?
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>>18324443
I've noticed Serbians tend to really love the US Confederacy for some reason.
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>>18324291
Uh, not exactly if we're going by stereotypes. Ellis Islander is more Irish, Italian, Greek, Slav. Trump is German, closer to Midwestern, even though he spent his entire life in New York City.
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>>18325997
Very gay remark, Miguel.
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>>18324795
>I've worked wtih GAR guys as an SCV chud
what the hell do GAR and SCV mean?
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>>18326029
The irony being that the loudest anti-CSA yankee larper faggot (atun-shei) is an ethnic Serb
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>>18325418
I thought racism and hate were good things.
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>>18326148
they are when directed against hostile outsiders, why does this boggle your mind so?
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>>18323522
Underrated post and the closest thing to what actually happened.
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>>18319949
>OP discovers Assimilation
Holy fuck Bro next you'll find out that Italian and Irish Americans whose ancestors weren't here in 1776 also celebrate the 4th of July???
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>>18326140
He used to be good when he tried to be objective but he completely went deranged after George Floyd.
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>>18326093
>what the hell do GAR and SCV mean?
Grand Army of the Republic, a postwar fraternal organization for Union veterans and their descendants. Sons of Confederate Veterans and related Daughters of the Confederacy are either hate or heritage groups depending on your viewpoint.
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The Union lost. The South lost. America lost. The only ones who won anything were the blacks.
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Confederate sympathizers can go fuck themselves. All they can say is how they fought for a “respectable cause”, trying to keep niggers isn’t a respectable cause. Imagine being such cretinous cucks to big plantation that you sacrifice your life to them. George Washington should have banned slavery, so that we wouldn’t have to suffer to another 80 boatloads of Niggers branded by little Dixie dicks. Now they are in every fucking city in the north.
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We won
you lost
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>>18319949
>tfw no QT female chinaman confederate girlfriend
and you're right OP, it is weird. If any of my family were civil war vets it would have to be on my dad's mom's side because I think my dad's dad's parents came from bongistan after WWI and I know most of my mom's family came over between the 1880s and 1920s. Like I think the earliest on my mom's side was castle clinton due to the irish 1879 famine and as far as I am aware the first US war any of my family served in was the spanish American war and kicking those brown thirdies out of cuba
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>>18319949
>It’s just as cringe as anyone who unironically flies the Confederate battle flag in this day and age,
flying the >I hate blacks, flag is based
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>>18324796
>Cajuns have always had a weird relationship with the rest of the state.
Tbh I’ve never been north of Alexandria and beyond that might as well be yankees.
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>>18320792
this, we had QT confederate female chinamen in scooby doo comics as recently as 2013
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>>18327596
>the entire legacy of the confederacy their struggle is reduced to "I hate niggers" by mexicans who came here in 1998
Grim.
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>>18327601
I'm white and every part of my family was here before WWII.
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>>18322467
they literally had confederate stuff in scooby doo, tranny
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>>18323522
>as long as they didn’t use it in vulgar displays of racism, and most importantly, as long as they kept sending their sons off to war.
Still sounds like the South got cucked to me. Anecdotal, but I watched a video where American soldiers/marines raised the Battle Flag at Iwo Jima or Okinawa and people were pissy in the comments about. Such gratitude and tolerance.
>>18324218
Massachusetts also decriminalised interracial marriage because they thought the law unnecessary due to no one being detestable enough to engage in it - according to Jared Taylor.
>>18324384
Then America was always destined to be a judeochristian failure.
>>18326029
Because ethnic Serbian migrants fought for the Confederacy more than in the Union.
>>18326660
Then why did Yankees import more of them last century?
>>18327592
>spanish American war and kicking those brown thirdies out of cuba
You didn't.
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>>18319949
My ancestors fought for the Union in the Civil War as German-Americans and I don't care about it either way. I find American history very boring.
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>>18319952
You post this as if the American Civil War is some niche topic that only entered into the public discourse in the last decade.
Are you unaware of the numerous national parks, political movements, and naming conventions regarding the US civil war and its aftermath?
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>>18320815
1. No they arent, should we be so lucky.
2. The Civil Rights act is fucking retarded, Civil Rights has not benefitted the Americans in fact it has heavily punished them. Rewarding and excusing vice while also being used by non-Americans and even anti-Americans to scandalize the Americans.
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>>18319949
I think it’s because the Civil War is one of those only times where there’s a clear good and evil in history.
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>>18326006
ironically anti-White racism is a form of class collaboration between the bourgeois elite and the underclass composing the reserve of army.
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>>18327831
Explain why without bringing up slavery because anyone who isn't an 80iq tard knows that absolutely no one except religionfags cared about it. Even the few secular people who fought against it only did so as a practical means of handicapping the southern economy during an ongoing war.
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>>18327846
You are an unintelligent and unserious person
>Concession Accepted
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>>18327786
>Anecdotal, but I watched a video where American soldiers/marines raised the Battle Flag at Iwo Jima or Okinawa and people were pissy in the comments about. Such gratitude and tolerance.

On tumblr there was a post where people had changed the Iwo Jima photo to a gay rainbow flag and everyone was reblogging to signal how offensive that was. Not because our war-hero grandparents weren't feces-encrusted sodomites, but because America taking the island was racist and so was people liking the original photograph. (Beating the Axis wouldn't be racist anyway, but at least one of the soldiers who raised the flag was a Native American who later died from ptsd and the guy who snapped the photo was Jewish.)
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>>18327846

It's an _extremely_old_ form of virtue-signaling-

Matthew 23:29-31
King James Version
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

(Dropping a link bc this really is in the original https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023&version=KJV )
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>>18327875
I agree, re-appropriating bible verses for your own agenda is truly a form of virtue signalling as old as time
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It's just retards trying to interpret modern politics by putting it in terms of some (seemingly) morally black and white event that happened over 160 years ago and that they have a surface level knowledge of from school. Trump only won because that one general that I know barely anything about didn't kill enough people and the government during the period of history that I know nothing about didn't do enough to punish southern chuds for being racist.
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>>18319949
I think it has more to do with Asians finding their place in American society. Asians in general took different lessons from the Los Angeles riots. Some realized very plainly that they were attacked by black gangs empowered by a culpable press. Others took the lesson that the LAPD had only protected white areas of LA. Others took the lesson that as a non-white, non-black, non-Hispanic minority in LA the needs of their community would always be fourth place. At the same time the Asian population in LA is very connected to the university system. So much so that people often joked that UCLA (University of California Los Angeles) stood for Unidentified Caucasians Lost among Asians.

It also has to do with the fact that California doesn't teach about its military history during the American Civil War. The California State Military Museum in Sacramento was shut down in 2014 and all the exhibits mothballed. Actual history needs to be taught by actual historians to dispel what is basically just ignorance.
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>>18327786
>>spanish American war and kicking those brown thirdies out of cuba
>You didn't.
we did. the brown third world country of spain no longer owns cuba or PR
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>>18322818
>old liberal boomers
because they won't live to see the consequences of their actions. especially if they own their home and are high up in a company or are retired
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>>18322938
>and forced conscription
only 2% of union soldiers were conscripts
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>>18323151
Shaggy's uncle was a confederate who 100% owned slaves
Scooby's great grandpa fought in the civil war for the confederates
Scooby saved a confederate colonel from drowning in an act of great courage
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>>18323522
/thread
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker
The most prominent Asian Americans in the Civil War era were the original “Siamese twins”, slave owners who lived in North Carolina. They lived in the town that inspired “Mayberry” on the Andy Griffith show.
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My ancestors were southern unionsts. This kid is a little faggot and he doesn't represent them. Fucking nigger loving redditors
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>>18328665
the pic from OP is an asian girl
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>>18328778
So her dog eating ancestors were digging rice out of a shit encrusted bog at the time got it. She shouldn’t even be in this country



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