Why isn't the state that immediately succeeded the Roman Empire considered the successor of the Roman Empire?They were in Rome. They spoke Latin.
>>18328822They were more roman tha Byzantium, for sure
>>18328822Because there was an eastern roman empire at the time and it was technically in charge of the germanic state that took over italy
>>18328822what happened here?
>>18328838vandals
>>18328854they had a treaty port?
>>18328822“They were in Rome” and “they spoke Latin” doesn’t logically entail “therefore they are the Roman state.” Those facts can be true while the legal-institutional entity is different.
>>18328822Because historians need a clean date for the end of the Western Empire and the deposition of Augustulus fits nicely. It’s a myth however that the civilisation fell here. Odoacer was more a military dictator. He recognised the Eastern emperor. He kept the Senate. He kept Roman law and the bishops. He revitalized market towns and fixed aqueducts. It was ironically, Justinians autistic war of reconquest that decimated anything left of “Roman” civilization in Italy. Rome itself was said to have been completely abandoned during it. The countryside was plundered brutally. And after it was all done, the Lombards just strolled in.
>>18328887they vandalized marsala
>>18328933>Rome itself was said to have been completely abandoned during it. The countryside was plundered brutallyIsn't it all was during Byzantine-Lombard wars right after Justinian's death?
>>18328933>it was ironically, Justinians autistic waryou massively underestimate the impact of justinian plague. it was the first black death epidemy in europe.
>>18328822>>18328826This was a client state of Constantinople that went rogue and had to be put down.
>>18328822Rome was bigger than italy
>>18329045>Conquer Italy with 10,000 mystery meat foederati >Lazy gayreeks label them goths even though they werent >Goes broke conquering Italy which paid tribute to the eastern Greeks all because they were in a major deficit due to getting wrecked by Persians again and needed easy plunder >Real Goths come in and kill the greeks and causes them to further spiral to bankruptcy >Italians stop identifying as Romans due to the term Roman being conflated with brown raping Greek and African hordes Cucked and raped Justinian destroyed any chance for a Roman reemergence
>>18329045lol
>>18330894Laughing at Justinian retarded war over "woman” death
>>18329528>>Lazy gayreeks label them goths even though they werentRome literally slapped the same term to every random tribe that wandered around their borders that met whatever criteria. >These are all parthians>These are all goths>These are all gauls>They are ultimately all barbarians
>>18328838sicily got a pimple
All of Europe is part of the succession of Rome https://youtu.be/DDPq5oXFnaY?si=CQRBKreqiUmKcICx
>>18331136Mario intro?
