nihilism is the doom of humanity. the only salvation from it is the ignorance of it, but once the idea takes hold, even slightly, you're a dead man walking. nothing is more contagious. all men will realize the truth, and succumb to the void. nihilism is to humanity what black holes are to the universe.
>nihilism must be le sadYou're not describing nihilism, you're describing pessimism
>>18329022pessimism is a symptom of nihilism. human beings cannot embrace a vacuum. when there is no reason to do anything, boredom becomes the only experience, and therefore rotting alive becomes the only fate. it is death, while still being alive.
>>18329022This. "Life has no meaning" can be pessimistic or optimistic, depending upon how you look at it. Life has no set meaning, therefore do whatever you want and make the most of it. If you want to follow the normie path in life, then do it. If you want to forge your own path, then do it. If you want to be an autist manchild collecting Legos or whatever, then do it. If you waste your time searching for some magical meaning, then you'll miss out on appreciating the small things in life.
>>18329030>human beings cannot embrace a vacuum.Sure you can, or at the very least you can embrace being alive in-spite of it. It's about letting go and embracing the absurdness of you simply being here at all.
>>18329015Not really. What motivates me now is competition. I want high quality shit and that’s rare. So my drive is now entirely devoted to getting those things. Will I die? Yes. Does it matter? No. I’ll seethe with rage if I have to die not having had the good life. Not even because I necessarily want it, but because I was born with a silver spoon and had it ripped out of my mouth.
can someone define nihilism for me in an acute concise way any retard 4chaner could understand....like I thought its just "life is meaningless bullshit"...like so what, grow up
>>18329032you are not going deep enough into the logical conclusions of nihilism.>Life has no set meaning, therefore do whatever you want and make the most of it.the key part is "do whatever you WANT". what if you don't want to do anything? if you rely on meaning to act, but there is no meaning to act, then you are paralyzed. but if you go even further, you realize that:>meaninglessness is meaningless.it is meaningless to be in inaction. my paralysis is hypocrisy, i should be acting despite having no clear reasons to act, but i can't. but i also can't be content with being in a perpetual vegetative state.>>18329042>being alive in-spiteyou can't spite something that doesn't exist. there is no nothing. it is merely a conception of the mind, it is simply the absence of meaning. and that is why i cannot act in-spite of it, because that holds no meaning to me.>letting go and embracingis only possible if you've had a lapse of judgement. to believe there is meaning is to be victim of an illusion; yet that illusion provides great benefit. but what if i can't lie to myself, and therefore cannot benefit from the lies? there is no reason to do anything, there is no reason not to do anything.>>18329050subjective meaning is such a gift to those who have it. it defines who you are to the deepest level of your being. so how come i am deprived of it? am i not human? why am i so obsessed with objective meaning, something that cannot even exist?>>18329055i am not a traditional nihilist. meaninglessness alone is not enough, you need meaninglessness applied onto meaninglessness itself. which is why i consider myself a "true" nihilist. so my philosophy can be summed up to this:>there is no meaning. there is no meaning in stating that there is no meaning. there is no reason to do anything. there is no reason not to do anything.therefore subjective meaning is the only thing that ever could exist. but if you don't have it, you are dead.
>>18329062You look for objective meaning because your mind is enslaved to abstract ideals. Want a quick fix? Objective meaning is just doing what you’re going to do anyway. Whoever made the universe did it perfectly. Subjective meaning is asking yourself what you want and then doing it.
>>18329072>Objective meaning is just doing what you’re going to do anywayi have attempted to believe in solipsism and other philosophies like it, but couldn't. other consciousnesses exist, and mine is not special. but even if it was, what even is objective meaning? achieving immortality or supernatural power? transcending the universe? serving an all powerful god? all those things are arbitrary in some way. immortality and power don't give you reasons to act. escaping the cycle of reincarnation doesn't give you reasons to act. the all powerful god's reasons to act are only the illusion of objective meaning, for the all powerful god's existence itself is rooted in an arbitrary "always existed" or "just came to be" origin. everything is arbitrary, because meaning can only be arbitrary. that's why there truly is no meaning, because none of it can hold when held under the utmost scrutiny.>Subjective meaning is asking yourself what you want and then doing it.how do i know that what i want is what i truly want? why do i want what i want? why bother fulfilling my wants if i'll return to the default state, which is boredom and existential dread? i indeed am obsessed with abstract ideals, i am diagnosed with autism after all. but i don't see how there's any salvation for me. death seems like the only escape from this torturous mental illness.
>>18329077I didn’t say adopt solipsism. I’m trying to express an idea to you. You are part of a whole which is moving towards some end. The end of time is a boundary condition that limits your paths. The purpose of your life is to live. Awareness is a part of the universe so clearly this world is not the full story. And you are right, if you have autism you’re going to be trapped in a mental world of ideas. However, if you study philosophy deep enough and start to look into our nature you’ll lose that intrinsically value-oriented mindset you have now. Even if there is a perfect way to live, i.e. all your desires are fulfilled, you won’t know it. So just look for happiness here and now. Don't sweat it though, kid. Life is tough for everyone. You seen smart, so try to find a way to make a lot of money with your skills and ability to hyper focus and live your life in peace.
>>18329089>The purpose of your life is to live.then there truly is nothing to do. i have already succeeded and am succeeding, there is nothing "more" to do. you could lobotomize me and i'd be winning just as much, except i wouldn't be suffering as much. to be happy, i'd have to force myself to do things against my will. i'd have to go against my principles, my standards for what life ought and ought not to be, and against who i am as an individual. but insanity is the only path possible if i keep being who i am, so in a way it is inevitably that my ego dissolves. i know what my nature wants, i believe it is wrong, but it is right because it is the only things that exists. there is only that which is; it is the only rule of the universe.
>>18329109I’m trying to explain to you man that your values as lies. How you think the world should be is different from how it is and you’re going to suffer for no reason.
>purpose of life>meaning of existence >why do we exist>whats my purposeall silly nigga shit, but if it helps you sleep at night....
>>18329015what is it about your own fallible doubt and cynicism that makes you uniquely able to comprehend the "non-truth" (because you say truth doesn't exist). How would you know if you were doubting for the right reasons, and didn't discount something that was true as a lie because of your own pride? You are possessed by demons, and your mind is drunk on its own apparent genius at being able to see that really everything is useless and that it is smart.>I don't believe in rationalityGod can still reach you before it is too late if you humble yourself
Weak-willed men are unable to form their own meaning and goals, they will follow what others set for them.Ultimate bliss for a man is the hardest of efforts, being your own Master and lead the way.Even world leaders fail this.Servant-hood is rather appealing in hedonistic terms, all is garanteed no risk is taken. All predetermined for you, you just need to follow instructions.Being the one who leads yourself tho, it means uncertainty and high risks of failure with no safety net. Many are simply incapable of such endeavor.The average despot isn't much of a leader, he is simply enabled by a system to have his whims fulfilled. He doesn't have to fight and struggle for it.
>>18329353You're an idiot.
