Who has a stronger claim to continuity as a nation?I was arguing this with somebody and I unironically think Mexico has a stronger claim.Mexico's capital city is still in the same place as many ancient polities which dominated Mesoamerica were. Such as Tlapacoya, Xochimilco, Teotihuacan, Tollan, Tenochtitlan. And its majority is descendants of Spaniards mixed with the majority Nahua and some Olmec descendants. Nahua are like the Han of Mexico. The Mayan south is a minority.India is more like if somebody made the EU a country (comparitively, not analogically). The different groups in India are barely related to each other and it's entirely just the borders left from the British Raj. Not like this is not the case for Mexico too, but at least almost all mexicans are about the same thing. Each group in India however is just too different. If Burma ended inside India too, they would be as indian as the rest.This is coming from somebody who hates Mexico.
analogically, not comparatively*
India is the worlds only de facto/non-de jure country. Sure it has borders and people who call themselves heads of state but inside is just a loosely connected mass of brown people without any standards or decency
>>18329432This.If it weren't for the Mughals and later the British what we call today India would just be dozens of different separate countries.
>>18329425You're overlooking centuries of reform and regime change. The Mexica (nahua) don't have a successor at all because their society was completely supplanted by Ibero-Tlaxcalan warlordism for almost a century. Then came various viceroys that were arguably even less cohesive than British-led Indian states. Mexico today isn't even the same Mexico it was when it fought the US and lost half their land claims.
>>18329425Mexico is way more unified than India but in terms of continuity almost none of the Mesoamerican culture survives except in placenames and some slang. Whereas in India they still practice Vedic religion and speak Vedic languages
>>18329425Who would be the pastoralists in this case?
>>18329467The gastronomy is roughly 50/50 though. Minus the human meat, of course. I don't think anyone else in the world eats salted fried cactus as a staple of their food. Then there's a lot of shit down south like cricket tacos and corn smut.t.mexican
>>18329472Mexico is nowhere near as dirty as India though. Mexicans at the very least have working indoor plumbing and know how to use a fucking toilet, or public festivals covering themselves in literal cow shit.
>>18329482I wasn't really referring to hygiene. I'm just saying people still eat mostly the same shit they ate before the spanish arrived.
Comparing modern Mexicans to the Aztecs is stupid. The Aztecs were honorable, while Mexicans are a humiliating and wretched race, as all Latinx are.
>>18329507>The Aztecs were honorableThey performed human sacrifices and practiced cannibalism.
>>18329509Evidence of faith and extreme piousness.
>>18329459I think this is exaggerating it the other way. Does France for example have no continuity at all with the France of the 10th century?
>>18329529How are you defining continuity here? Just being mostly genetically the same as their ancestors or do they have to have the same system of government and ethos? The modern Republic of Mexico has absolutely nothing in common with New Spain in terms of governance. Even less with the mesoamerican city states.
Legally speaking, modern Mexico dates from 1917, while modern India dates from 1948
>>18329516The cartels are their spiritual successord.
>>18329893>modern Mexico dates from 1917This so fucking much. As a Mexican, I genuinely believe my country full of Coca Cola bottles and Maruchan instant noodle soup styrofoam cups littering every single major street in Mexico has nothing to do with Aztecs (I don't even live in territory ruled at one point by Aztecs ffs) and VERY much to do with everything that came about since the 20th century onwards. Mexican women listen to Puerto Rican reggaeton not because some Fernandos and Manueles from Extremadura ingrained this into Mexican culture when they conquered it in 1521, but rather because the Mexican state officially declared in 1857 that the Roman Catholic Church had absolutely no right to tell the government how to rule the country, and also because in the 1930s, the Mexican government fought a war to keep the Mexican state free from the influence of priests.México es cagada. Puro pinche Marcial Maciel y Luis EcheverrÃa a la verga.
>>18329941Cartels are majority euro admixture. /pol/tranny cope
>streetshitters vs barriomonkeysWhoever wins humanity loses
>>18330491jews win
