How come no one ever talks about Genoa?
>>18345730Because Venice had a bigger impact
>>18345730In Genoa, a lot of people are not so happy for Columbus
I wish I grasped the city/regional pride of the era better, like the way the Genoese actually felt about the Venetians in the Aegean, not just in Italy, like Greek colony competition in the western Mediterranean or the black sea or whatever.
>>18345740Other way around. The South (read: most mafia guys and most Italian-Americans) doesn't care about Colombus but Genoans care because he's local to them
>>18345753I grew up in an Italian-American neighborhood mainly inhabited by immigrants from Sicily, Naples, and Bari. The main street was and still is called Cristoforo Colombo Boulevard. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>18345791Maybe he meant in italy?
>>18345870yeah that must be why he brought up terrone-americans cause he was talking strictly about italy, sure
>>18345874All good stories have a kernel of truth in them
>>18345791The guy here >>18345740 was making a Sopranos referencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbbMIg-Aw8E
>>18345740*spit* I ate columbus>>18345791because the guidos in jersey aren't sicilian or nobblydobbly, they're americans with italian ancestors. they have connection with the views of actual southern italians
>>18345791Arthur Avenue?
>>18345730the jews hid it
>>18345730the best of all crusaders
>>18345791>I grew up with mutts who screech like women aayyyyyy ooooohhhh gabagool fuggedaboudid ahmwaukinovaheya
>>18345874The character is a real mafioso Italian sent to work with incompetent gabagool-Americans dumb fuck.
>>18345740I am litterally from Genoa and this is false. People here simply hate the Columbus statue near Principe because its a very ugly monument and a concentration point of foreign beggars
>>18345730Because they gay.
>>18345738I think it's more that 18th century Venice reinvented itself successfully as a tourism center, and therefore stuck in popular memory. As actual financial powers they were pretty even, as far as I can tell.
>>18346820Venice is a really pretty and unique sight tho, Genoa not that much. not bad, but nothing special
>>18346521That thing is cool. Send it to burgerland if you don't want it, we'll take it.
>>18345926I’m not from jersey and my grandparents and everyone else in the neighborhood’s grandparents and sometimes parens were from southern italy so no they werent “italian americans with ancestors” they were quite literally southern italians from southern italy>>18346134No
>>18345730Because they were white slavers.