“Muh cia” is how they square the circle

uhm what about China? they're about to conquer the world white boi
>it's not socialsim
it is, and much more

>color revolutions

lol see how that worked out for uykraine

>>18345916
They were fascists butthurt at being told their nazi daddies were the bad guys. If he had been a real leader, Gorbachev would have nuked East G*rmany when they tore down the wall

>>18345916
Communisn just wasn't done properly before. People know how to make it work now so you can trust them.

>>18345916
Reminder Germany still hasn't paid reparations to Russia and Poland for the genocidal war they started

>>18345951
>one country got fucked over while every other one is free and wealthy

>>18345982
Why would germany pay respirations fow a war russia voluntarily started with them?

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>>18345916
Why does Ostalgie, Yugonostalgia and nostalgia for the Soviet Union exist?
When polled, most people who lived under Communism said life was better under it than under capitalism.
The only conclusion to draw is that those were color revolutions.

>>18345916
We support Russia and Bolshevism here, tranny

>>18346201
>east germany is such a rundown shithole not even sand nigs want to nest there

Sad

>>18346259
>Why does Ostalgie, Yugonostalgia and nostalgia for the Soviet Union exist?
People will feel nostalgic for all sorts of dumb shit as long as they grew up with it

>When polled, most people who lived under Communism said life was better under it than under capitalism.
See above

I also would like to know the context of these polls
Which countries were they in? what percentage of the population did they interview?

One more detail, they probably don't miss the soviet style government they probably miss living in a mostly white country not full of third worlders
I doubt they miss communism, they probably miss nationalism

>>18346259
>When polled, most people who lived under Communism said life was better under it than under capitalism.
... and then the same people do not vote for the communist party. in Hungary the Worker's party never got more than 1% of the vote. why is that? don't you think those polls are a bit on the lying via statistics side?

>>18345951
>You shouldn't have rebelled against us because we'll fuck your shit up as punishment!
this uh doesn't really help your point

>>18346259
Yugonostalgia exists because boomers were young then, and it was better to be young in Yugoslavia than the current states because technology was less advanced so social alienation and sexlessness wasn't really a problem

>>18346259
>Yugonostalgia
Literally the only people I see online who post about yugonostalgia are the same type of eastern european chuds who make vhs filter war footage edits on tiktok and weren't even alive when yugoslavia existed

>>18345950
How are they about to "conquer the world" specifically?

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>>18345916
>Mr. Kosecki had been attacked by KOR, the Polish dissident group, which advised the Solidarity union. Samoobrona was quoted as saying, ''We relentlessly and obsessively continue the campaign against the Jews and the Masons.''
>The Jewish chauvinism controls 80 percent of the Western industry and finances; it dominates in propaganda, science and culture; it steers the so-called public opinion. That is why the Western governments represent the interests of the Jews and the Masons. The Soviet camp is a barrier for the Jewish chauvinism and for its plans to conquer the world.''
It was a jewish takeover

>>18345916
>If soviet """democracy""" was actually functioning and wasn't the apparatus for authoritarianism then there would be no reason to dump it for western liberal democracy
Why was it dumped without bloodshed, then? Perhaps because it was actually democratic and gave up when it lost popular support?
>And yet a massive amount of citizens in every country of the eastern bloc demanded an end to the abusive political system and restore individual liberty
but they didn't want their countries sold off for pennies on the dollar, which is what they got, their old ruling parties dissolved, elections rigged, "anti-communist" legislation to make sure economic democracy can never come back, etc.
Liberalism means one man, one vote, one time.

>>18346782
>Why was it dumped without bloodshed
Romania literally had violent revolution that involved the communist government getting executed.
>their countries sold off for pennies on the dollar
Never happened, you fell for Tankie myths.
>elections rigged
Never happened. You fell for Tankie myths.
>"anti-communist" legislation to make sure economic democracy can never come back
Never existed, especially when all businesses and industry were managed by the state. Privatization is by default more democratic on the basis that it isn’t run by the government.

>>18346793
>it's not run by an elected government, but by modern-day feudal lords
how on Earth is that more democratic?
though I suppose you guys would need to get the elected government part back too

>>18346259
The only people who are nostalgic for the past regimes are either lazy bums who miss not having to work and being able to steal at work or delusional retards.
My friend's dad is one of those retards. Dude claims that there wasn't any corruption under communism. He claims that because all firms were owned by the state, no inefficiency or corruption could occur in those firms. Which is completely wrong.
It was the norm for factory workers to get shitfaced during their lunch breaks and slack off and hide from their foreman so they wouldn't have to work. Theft was extremely prevalent, workers would steal materials, gasoline, food and many other things. Hell the house I live in was built with materials my granpa stole from work.

>>18346782
>Dumbed without bloodshed
Previous revolutions were brutally suppressed. And even in 1989 the commie governments tried to supress the revolutions by sending the police force to beat and arrest protestors.
They gave up after they realized there wouldn't be a military intervention from the soviet union and their position was untenable.
>Perhaps it was actually democratic
Oh yeah, elections where you can only vote for one party are very democratic. It's even more democratic when you consider that you could get into trouble and lose your job for not going to vote.
God, communists are actually fucking retarded

>>18345951
How did separating from the Soviet Union work out for Poland?

>>18346892
Pretty good in the long run

>>18346782
>Perhaps because it was actually democratic
If it was actually democratic there wouldn't be any reason to switch to a different model of democracy

>their countries sold off for pennies on the dollar,
The eastern bloc leaders literally gave away their nations to the soviet imperialist and were forced to follow their specific economic model
They sold out to the russians who kept invading them because they stepped slightly out of line with the system

>elections rigged
oh yea cause the elections in one party marxist states were totally open and free

>economic democracy can never come back
In every communist-ruled nation "workplace democracy" didn't exist
The state owned the means of production and dictated the production itself
The workers owned fuck all in the eastern bloc

>>18347043
>> the soviet imperialist and were forced to follow their specific economic model

You unintentionally made a very great point. If each of the nations had been allowed to do socialism their own way ie no Prague spring suppression- Socialism might have survived.

>>18345916
>The revolutions of 1989-1991 are living proof almost no one wants to live under marxist socialism
as trash as marxism is, it was more about not wanting to be in the same bloc as russia
everything russia touches turns to shit, no matter what regime they have