>two tiny arteries in the heart that can clog up easily and kill you>tonsils which are useless but can get infected and inflamed which causes pain>a spine that is not designed for bipedalism which leads to chronic pain>appendix which is useless but can literally kill you>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them>constant foot pain because they're arched>knees wear down quickly and cause chronic pain>for some reason humans have cavities in their skulls that get full of mucus and stop you from being able to breathe>your retina is screwed on backwards which is what causes detachment >for some reason women make babies bigger than their pelvic floor can handle which frequently just kills them>for some reason teeth have nerves when them which they don't need, they also are unable to repair themselves so before modern dentistry all your teeth would just rot away by time you're 30>bipedalism causes varicose veins in legs because of gravity>eustachian tubes in ears cause infection and blockage frequentlyI see no evidence of a spiritual designer at work, only the entropy of an indifferent universe.
>>18346224>a spine that is not designed for bipedalism which leads to chronic pain>constant foot pain because they're arched>knees wear down quickly and cause chronic painThat was a problem that didn't exist prior to the 20th century and the event of concrete or metal flooring which we were never meant to be standing on.
>>18346227These problems 100% existed you fucking retard. The lumbar spine attempts to be flexible while also carrying heavy loads, which leads to failure later in life. Unless you think people before the 20th century weren't doing manual labor?
>>18346232you know you can just go and read books about osteoarcheology and find out you're a fucking retard that's wrong
>99% of water on earth cannot be consumed by humanswhat did the perfect creation mean by this
>>18346224>for some reason women make babies bigger than their pelvic floor can handle which frequently just kills themWomen are supposed to give birth in a squatting position. Laying on one's back to deliver a baby is not as good and more likely to induce complications; it is done mostly to make the delivery easier for the doctor.
>>18346224>they also are unable to repair themselvesTeeth do repair themselves and vitamins D3+K2 are vital for that.
>>18346270No they don't retard.
>>18346254Even when squatting women can still die. No other animal dies in childbirth.>inb4 you cite some statistical outlier99%
>>18346287Look into Dr. Weston A. Price
>>18346224>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them
>>18346324he's right thoughwisdom teeth impact your teeth row because your mouth can't accomodate
>>18346331Explain how I still have my wisdom teeth then.
>>18346294>No other animal dies in childbirth.Except for other primates. And rabbits. And cattle. Not to mention those that die by design as part of their reproductive cycle. Other than that sure, no one else dies in childbirth!
>>18346294>>inb4 you cite some statistical outlier>99%That's ironic since even before modern sanitation "only" 5% of women died in childbirth.
>>18346332>erm im a statistical outlier so this must mean there are no issues with wisdom teeth Kill yourself.
>>183463391 in 18 women dying of childbirth is a lot, actually. But you're a jeet so I don't expect you to understand.
>>18346224So this thread summarized is basically a couple retards nitpicking 1 or 2 of OP's points and ignoring the rest.
>>18346367>bro has weak geneticsBruh.
>>18346373>BruhYou must be 18 years or older to use this website.
>>18346376Then you better log off
>>18346224These things are not an issue for the vast majority of humans if they live in their natural state which the bodies have evolved for. You're essentially complaining that your joints and spine hurts because you're 400lbs and sit down 8 hours a day. A 180lbs hunter-gatherer don't have these problems because they're at a healthy weight, they exercise a lot and they don't constantly eat soft, sugary foots that rot their teeth or lead to an underdeveloped jaw that can't accommodate wisdom teeth. If you're complaining about knees causing chronic pain 'quickly' then you're just fat as fuck and its a skill issue. Your knees are supposed to last just fine for a period that's several lifetimes of many other mammals.
>>18346224Let's not forget the vast amount of autoimmune diseases. What part of a bemevolent greater plan involves someone's immune system attacking the sheath around their nerves? Seems retarded.
Aesthetic and utilitarian judgements aren't really an argument against omnipotent design. Just because the way things are doesn't appeal to your personal taste doesn't mean they're 'wrong' universally. Pain and disgust are what they are and that goes for all else. Why does God necessarily have to be infallible?Regardless, religion is gay just because i said so.
>>18346224That actually makes more sense if we are an imperfect copy of God.
>>18346498AI
>>18346224>so before modern dentistry all your teeth would just rot away by time you're 30its all the modern crap we consume thst rot our teeth not any inherent design flaw
>>18346224The strongest evidence against intelligent design is that humans have no redundancy. All intelligently made engineering systems are redundant. But we have one heart, one set of lungs, one liver, one stomach, one brain etc, any of these fails and you die, or in case of kidneys, become crippled. This is because the unthinking evolution doesn't care about stable systems, to nature you are disposable at it'll only equip you with bare minimum.
>>18346224>>two tiny arteries in the heart that can clog up easily and kill you>>tonsils which are useless but can get infected and inflamed which causes pain>>a spine that is not designed for bipedalism which leads to chronic pain>>appendix which is useless but can literally kill you>>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them>>constant foot pain because they're arched>>knees wear down quickly and cause chronic pain>>for some reason humans have cavities in their skulls that get full of mucus and stop you from being able to breathe>>your retina is screwed on backwards which is what causes detachment>>for some reason women make babies bigger than their pelvic floor can handle which frequently just kills them>>for some reason teeth have nerves when them which they don't need, they also are unable to repair themselves so before modern dentistry all your teeth would just rot away by time you're 30>>bipedalism causes varicose veins in legs because of gravity>>eustachian tubes in ears cause infection and blockage frequentlyall caused by original sin o algo
>>18346224A bunch of these are fixed by eating well, others by being autistic.
>>18346438They absolutely are and you're a fucking retard for saying otherwise. And even if you are correct, then you're also saying that God intended for humans to never move beyond living in teepees like niggers.
I wage slave manual labor and already have knee and leg problems at 30. Fuck this universe and fuck humans
>>18346224>two tiny arteries in the heart that can clog up easily and kill you>easilyIt is easier to be healthy and not to let that happen. Get up from your chair fag.
>>18346227Some of the oldest human remains we have are Neolithic humans with crippling disabilities
>>18346224Our modern society does not leave space for natural selection so, shit happens
>>18346373bro has an ancestor so undesirable he was forced to bang a neanderthal
>>18347436you dont understand how long nature selection takes to work, dont you
>>18346224>>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit them52yo here, still have my wisdom teeth
>>18346294zebras do
>>18347113No, you are a fucking fatass if you're complaining about things like knee pain, spine pain and clogged arteries.
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>>18346224>every human has to get four teeth removed because our heads cant fit themSkill issue? I've never had to remove my teeth
>>18346224As usual, the atheist presents arguments only meaningful to other atheists. Why are the ages in Genesis, recorded by scribes who did not know advanced math, a decaying exponential down to their present day apparent maximum of about 120 years (which we can only reach with advanced medical care that was then nonexistent, and which our only hope of exceeding requires gene-correction)Why does this decline begin at the Flood, with the mention of the Nephilim interbreeding with mankind?All of these problems you mention have genetic basis. Or they are intricate and clever structures that are required to be that way for some other reason, but fail unless everything is absolutely perfect. Everything was perfect in Eden, at some point the imperfection came in. But some day it will also be corrected.
>>18346638No, all engineering systems which cannot be depended on for the required service factor are redundant. If your car's steering column shaft spontaneously fractures, you have no backup. The human body, with perfect genetics, would repair itself and last thousands of years. Our genes are polluted with junk. We are all operating well outside design basis. The designer has announced a patch but not until all product has been recalled.
>>18348493Jeanne Calment was born in 1875 and lived to be 122 years old.
>>18346224can you imagine the type of horrors humanity will create in its pursuit to fix these flaws
