This is an avid threads of etymologies and so-called "comparative mythology" here where two users compulsively post articles they find on the internet and vote on everything there without any critical analysis, and one of these threads was about the Roman word "mars" being cognate with the Vedic word "Maruts." Let me humiliate youIt is claimed that the theonym Mars may derive from an Indo-European root *Māwort- (cf. Sanskrit Marutas) and that the theonym Vulcan may derive from *Wĺ̥keh2nos, but this is pure rubbish. Why?The claim that "Mars" comes from *Māwort- is questionable because: - Mars was originally an agricultural god (not a war god) and his name likely came from the Etruscan "Maris". - "Marutas" (Sanskrit) refers to gods of the wind, and is not related to Mars. The *Māwort- hypothesis seems inconsistent with linguistic and historical factsThe same goes for that theory about Poseidon being a sea god. I already explained it and humiliated that pair of wimps
>>18346256Terrible bait. Take it up with the authors of the articles they posted instead of pretending they made it up out of thin air.
>>18346258You can't answer me, why? I just noticed a book published by which only proves the importance of a healthy dose of skepticism to distance us from the ignorance generated by credentialism. Answer the arguments or shut up, you filthy creature.
>>18346256Are you talking about that weirdo who made those etymological charts on Paint? If so, you probably already know that his knowledge is pretty vague.
And to demonstrate the weakness of this argument, see Funk, Thereby Hangs a Tale - Stories of Curious Word Origins (2007), p. 184. Mars is an Etruscan god of agriculture; this demonstrates this theory. But our friend here>>18346258hasn't read the literature.>>18346307But he has a little friend.
>>18346256>A response to two lunatics>Let me humiliate you>I already explained it and humiliated that pair of wimpswew lad, you definitely don't sound mentally ill and obsessed at all
>>18346310Btfo
>>18346256Whether this is the case or not, I never really believed in it because it would supposedly be restricted to Indo-Aryan and Italic languages, which isn't enough.
>>18346318See>>18346310 Mars is Etruscan, not even Indo-European anyway, and Maruts wasn't a god, but a group of deities that has nothing to do with Mars, The Etruscan name for this god of the fields was Maris with an extra -i- between the ar and ess, which makes it rather clear that the name must have been borrowed into Latin from Etruscan, not the other way around. >>18346311>>18346313Nice arguments, girls
>>18346305>You can't answer me, why?I can't right now
>>18346256Your sources?
>>18346357Here>>18346310And Mallory Adams, "The Oxford Introduction to Proto-Indo-European and the Proto-Indo-European World "(2006), p. 409 and cope more
>>18346325Kek
>>18346258authors manage to disprove their own reconstruction of*Mawort>Still, the equation Mārs:Maruts, attractive as it may be if the basic function of Mārs is war, is usually rejected where Mārs's agrarian connotations rather suggest a rural deity of the peasant-soldier.
>>18346256One interpretation of the warlike nature is based on the Celtic Segomon- and the need for Osco Seemun- to come from *seCmo:n. More details at: This has already been discussed in a thread I created; I'm on PC and don't have the articles now.https://www.academia.edu/35015388/_An_Italo_Celtic_Divinity_and_a_Common_Sabellic_Sound_Change_Classical_Antiquity_36_2_370_389
>>18346310I'm surprised by your anger, so evident in this post. So, discussing etymology makes you angry? You're clearly biased and have a bizarre egomania get a grip, you mentally retarded person.
>>18346519>>18346526That thread was pretty lazy; you just talked about the article without any critical thinking. Besides, what does that have to do with Mars itself? What's the relevance? See>>18346511The nameMarsis in origin from EtruscanMarisand literally meant "Harvester" since he started out as a god of the *fields*, not of war. Its over.
>>18346546>>18346519So neither of these pseudocognates can seriously be connected to this ad hoc reconstruction**Māworts
>>18346366I can't answer u
>>18346606Ok
>>18346546>you just talked about the article without any critical thinking.You're a hopeless idiot coping and seething over papers published by real linguists.
>>18347274Please, answer my questions
>>18347286I can't answer you bro
>>18346256Mars always felt to me like a diety with pre indo european origin anyways. Tons of pre indo and Semitic influence on med paganism.
The sound changes that created "Mar-" aren't Venetic. So, there's no need to propose Mars < *mrh2ti- ('destroying'). Instead, IE *marhut- > *mahwrt- > Old Latin Māvort- ('Mars'), related to Kassite Maruttaš and Sanskrit Marút-as. The stem also explains variants like *Māvortikos > Mārcus and *Māmortikos > Māmercus.https://www.academia.edu/42168852/Mars_Veneticus_and_the_palma_rule_
>>18346256>>18346511Kek, this retard has been reading some schizo's blog from 2008
>>18348017That's an excellent survey of the evidence. I don't know if Prosper is right about everything, but if someone were to write a new paper on the topic, it's required reading.One thing I'm not sure about is if /P...w/ > /P...m/ is possible. Prosper argues against it for Mavor- > Māmart-. For example, prōvulgō > prōmulgō, but this word is certainly a later development.OP doesn't deserve a sincere response though. It's clearly a mentally ill person with a personal grudge. Just look at how he talks. He's going to "humiliate" someone for sharing things actual linguists were talking about such as connecting Mars and the Maruts.OP, when you're done reading ancient blogs, read what real linguists say and write your own paper arguing with *them* and not your imagined enemies on 4chan. Newsflash: they think Mars is Indo-European and their surveys of the evidence are much more systematic than you could ever hope to accomplish by the shallow motivation you get when you're angry at your computer screen because you forgot to take your meds.
OP literally made a thread because he was triggered by what John Clayton said in some presentations... and someone shared that on 4chan. Op, uh, have you thought about writing an angry email to Clayton? Invite him to a showdown at a historical linguistics conference. Maybe you can bait him into it by offering to humiliate him, lmao.I would ask if you feel humiliated yet, but you're obviously too dumb to be self-aware.
Someone arrest John Clayton.Doesn't he know he's causing meltdowns on 4chan and ruining lives???
