The Holocaust does not excuse the Nakba. No crime can ever be used to justify another crime.It is not necessary to deny the Holocaust in order to point out Israeli guilt for the Nakba and the subsequent expulsion and murder of Palestinian people. In fact, it is not even necessary to excuse, much less glorify the cause of the PLO or Hamas in order to point out Israeli wrongdoing. One simply needs to say "Expulsion is wrong and so is murder". Yes, one can say the Nazis were wrong, but one can also say Israelis are wrong in their deeds. The erasure of Palestinians from their homeland has been going on since the beginning of Jewish in British mandate in Palestine, so it has become a historical event, as well as an ongoing process. If one can debate the ethics of the Holocaust in a historical context, one can debate the ethics of the 1948 Nakba in a historical context too, and it is simple to say that the forceful displacement of people is wrong regardless of their ethnicity and regardless of their individual identities.There is no need for ethical debates full of exceptions and "what-about" questions, for universalist duty-based ethics trump above all else.
>>18348088This is just a common sense take but unfortunately most people in the Israel-Palestine conflict debate are bad actors arguing in bad faith so this suddenly becomes controversial.
It's not their homeland, they're all Albanians, Egyptians and Syrians.But that doesn't really matter, what's done is done. It's like being a Greek complaining about being kicked out of Turkey at around the same time, it won't do anything
>>18348135It doesn't matter whether or not it's their historical homeland. Killing is wrong.
Does Israel ever actually used Holocaust and nazis to justify their wars?
>>18348088>The Holocaust does not excuse the Nakba. No crime can ever be used to justify another crime.Like >>18348185 said. Have it ever happen or are you making it all up?
>>18348088It doesn't but the expulsion of Jews from all the Arab countries paralel to the Nakba does. It was more a population exchange rather than one group kicking out another.
>>18348088>it is simple to say that the forceful displacement of people is wrong regardless of their ethnicity and regardless of their individual identities.Displacement is based actually. God bless the Indian Removal Act.
>>18348135>it's not their homeland>>18348210>and even if it was, it's based anyway
>>18348218I'm not that first anon. I'm only saying it very clearly - displacement is based.
>>18348185The State of Israel? Not really. Zionists online and in political discourse IRL? Very often.>>18348210Whether or not something is based does not affect whether or not it is morally wrong.>>18348203Population exchanges are still a form of forceful population displacement. Removing Poles from East Galicia and resettling them in East Prussia was wrong. Forcefully mixing up the populations of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and other Central Asian SSRs was wrong. Resettling East Thracian Turks in Anatolia was wrong.People who live in one place and choose to remain there, in the absence of other legal claimants for the same plot of land, should not be forced to migrate against their will.A man who has sold his house legally forfeits property of it, but the one who purchases it becomes its legal owner, so a Mexican who has legally purchased a house in Arizona or Illinois and has chosen to make his home there should not be forced to move "back" to Mexico.
>>18348135>Albanian>in Palestineschlomo are you drunk?
>In 1947 Muslims kill/expel people to create a state for their religion>In 1948 Muslims are killed/expelled to create a state for their religionSeems like it balanced itself out. Palestinians should have just moved to Pakistan
>>18348135>Albanians, Egyptians and Syrians.The absolute cognitive dissonance of infesting kikes from the middle of hungary and poland to claim Palestinians aren't autochtonous is astonishing
>>18348362>In 1947 Muslims kill/expel people to create a state for their religionAre you referring to Pakistan Ranjesh? Nobody was killed and expelled here, Muslims were always majority and we seceded so we wouldn't be killed by the Pajeet stateLooking at indian muslim situation now it was the best thing we did
>>18348386>Nobody was killed and expelled herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Rawalpindi_massacresWho are you trying to fool here? Not even the Pakistani government denies the genocide.As for Indian Muslims, they seem to be doing better than their Pakistani counterparts. Literally last week the a Shia mosque got bombed in Islamabad. If Jinnah (a liberal Shia) was alive today he’d be safer in India than in Pakistan.
>>18348418To add, being pro-Palestinian and pro-Pakistani at the same time is logically incoherent from every perspective except the most short-sighted Islamism. Hell, the Israeli government literally cited the example of Pakistan to justify seizing the lands of Arabs who were expelled.
>>18348240So forced integrated schools and other public places after the passing of the civil rights act is morally wrong? What a strange stance.
>>18348240If your country goes to war and loses then collapses(ottomans) and is taken over by a foreign government(the British) that land now belongs to them because they can enforce the claim. And they can make decisions within those borders like allowing any group they want to move there(Jews) if you take drastic actions to sabotage decisions of the land owners you create a conflict that has to be settled somehow. If in the process of resolving that conflict a new owner(Jews) gains the means to enforce their claim and decisions then they become the new owners and have a right to enforce their claim. And if after the conflict you continue to prove yourself as a perpetual violent obstacle even after failure then you should GTFO.
