Why are most people okay with being treated like this?
I don't remember omnipotent philosemite dangling me over a burning trashcan
>>18355844The commandment of God is to be afraid to do evil. Which is also the greatest advice ever given by anyone.
>>18355844Who or what imbued you with that strong moral compass of yours?You might start with "it's just nature" but if you gather some cross-generational processing power you'll be surprised where those thoughts end up.
>>18356368>Who or what imbued you with that strong moral compass of yours?Satan.
>>18356368>Who or what imbued you with that strong moral compass of yours?persistent low quality baiting to the point of almost flooding is hardly moral
>>18356368>actually it's god who told you that he's an assholelmaovery honest of him
>>18355844You go to hell over your own free will. Hell is also not a burning minecraft nether forever. It’s eternal seperation from God. Poena damni. Realising divine truth after death and knowing you turned away from it for scraps.
>>18356812>You go to hell over your own free willNo, you don't as it was God who created that system to begin with. The ideal situation would be if nobody goes to Hell
>>18356856Your soul is already marked for death due to sin. Christ redeems it.
>>18356368>It's difficult to articulate where morality comes from>Therefore every animal on earth is alive today because two of every species was packed onto a boat several thousand years agoAnon, I...
>>18356812>>You go to hell over your own free will.So God doesn't have any role in creating hell, creating a world where it's possible to go there, or creating the people whose actions lead them there? Why, exactly, is he worthy of worship for creating such an insidious trap as this? Unless you were fortunate enough to have been born in the last 2000 or so years, within a culture that had access to his chosen people's teachings, you're doomed.
>>18355844Because narcisists barely recognize their own vileness
>>18356368>where do morals come from if not from god?We made them up, which is why different societies have different expectations for good behavior and morality isn't entirely uniform. If morality truly did come from god then morality would be uniform, and every human being would know that the same actions are right or wrong, but we know that's not the case.
>>18356812>Hell is also not a burning minecraft nether forever.Weeping gnashing of teeth, lake of fire, fire prepared for the devil and his angels, worm dieth not, etc. Your holy book describes it as lethal lava land and trying to claim it's just separation and not a torture chamber is coping. Your religion rests its legitimacy on the threat of punishing people with an eternal torture chamber.
>>18356368> Who or what imbued you with that strong moral compass of yours?Millions of years of evolution in highly social environments.
>>18357798Hell isn't eternal, it will be destroyed on Judgement Day. If you "go to Hell" you're in the power of Satan between the time of your death and the end of the world, which was the choice you made by rejecting God's offer to save you from this. After Satan is defeated everyone will either be saved or obliterated.>>18357703>Unless you were fortunate enough to have been born in the last 2000 or so years, within a culture that had access to his chosen people's teachings>what is the Harrowing of Hell
>>18357792>and every human being would know that the same actions are right or wrongThey do. Although on a very basic gut feeling level. Morality is objective.
>>18357798>>18356812>minecraft nether>lethal lava landI think that using children's video games to illustrate the popular depiction of hell is really funny and I will be using this tactic in the future.
>>18355844 (OP) #Reminder that doing good = loving God and doing evil = hating God. It doesn't matter what you say, think or believe, what matters is what you do. If you say you love God but you do evil, in the eyes of God, you hate him. And if you don't even know about God but you do what is righteous, in the eyes of God, you love him.When David sinned, God asked him, why did you despise me by doing evil? Which means that doing evil means you despise God even if you write 100 psalms about how much you love him.
>>18356368The moral compass I was imbued with makes me consider god to be evil.
>>18357962>Hell isn't eternal, it will be destroyed on Judgement Day.Wrong, Sheol (Death) will be destroyed in judgement day, not hell. Nobody has been thrown into the consuming fire until after they are judged.Most sinners will be obliterated, but the wicked will be torture forever.
>>18357798It's not a threat, it's a warning.
>>18358572Between this and a magic Jew coming back from the dead, Christianity is fucking hilarious to listen to people talk about.
>>18356368God's morality is completely incoherent.
>>18358577The spiritually dead are sad. You really have not experienced the invisible realm in any way? That's just sad.
>>18356368>imbued you with that strong moral compassTell that to primitive tribes and violent third world immigrants (they are mostly christians or muslims).
>>18356812>Hell is just part of the cosmos. It's your karma that drags you into it. You fell into hell becauae you clinged your karma and didn't realize reality is only an illusion.You stole your arguments from other religions.
>>18356869Isn't that basically the gnostic/scientology argument?
>>18357970>They do. Although on a very basic gut feeling level. Morality is objectiveHow many migrants behave disproves your idea.
>>18358648*With how
This sounds like a great argument until you remember all the people who use it defend industrial baby murder and pederasty.
>>18358718>industrial baby murder and pederasty.If God really felt strongly about those things he would do something about them dumb ass.
>>18359017>I-it's too easy to go to hell! How can people ever be okay with this? You can be totally innocent and be punished forever :(((>LMAO you fucking pussy, where's your religion now, I can kill babies and rape children and have no punishment at all LOLI think you know the answer.
>>18359023>LMAO you fucking pussy, where's your religion now, I can kill babies and rape children and have no punishment at all LOLShow me where I said that. If anything that's what god thinks since that happens all the time in his creation and he does nothing about it. But it's ok, they will be punished in the afterlife or something.
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>>18359036>direction brained retard
>>18358648>torturing people for fun>wasting food for no reason>punishing someone innocent Some moral truths are universal. They feel more like discoveries instead random human inventions. This implies an objective gold standard of morality exists and we can compare our current morality against it.
>>18359505>torturing people for funYou are delusional if you think being against that is an universal value. People love to bully, people love violence and humans especially savage tribes have been very cruel and sadistic throughout history.>wasting food for no reasonBecause that's dangerous for the survival of the tribe. It's a very biological value.>punishing someone innocentAgain I disagree that humans are universally against that. Humans often have no problem with punishing someone just for the punishments sake even if the person is innocent. People also have no problem with punishing innocents of other tribes, clans, nations, races etc.There is also the concept of kin punishment which would fall under punishing someone innocent. The concept of original sin as a whole disproves that this is a universal moral truth. Original sin is nothing but kin punishment used as justification for christianity's insane hell theology.>>18355844
>>18358718>non-sequitur
>>18356368As compared to you? The christcuck?You get yours from Adam & Eve eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. yhwh even says in Gen 3, "See, the humans have become like one of us, knowing good and evil", yet all you christcucks will say that you can't judge god's actions.Your god says that you have equal moral knowledge of him, but you're ignorant of it.>"But muh god is all-good, so whatever we see him do, no matter how bad it sounds, is good"Showing that you're not actually doing what your book says you should be able to do.You should be able to judge your god's actions, and just as easily see that your god does things that are bad, as you're able to see from another human's actions.
>>18360106There is a lot more to Genesis 3 than just getting an ethical system, also it is difficult to overstate the revelation even just that would have been for uncorrupted early man.
>>18360123There's more to Gen 3, but none of it is relevant to my point. Thanks for not addressing anything I said.Likely, because I spoke 100% truth,and there's nothing you can address.
>>18360130They did not feel shame prior to eating the fruit and that is the first and only consequence of the knowledge they received directly from the fruit, that should tell you it wasn't really a ethical system they were given, at least that wasn't the main thing.
>>18360135>erm actually eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil doesn't give you knowledge of good and evil, it just makes you insecure about walking around nakedI love Christian apologetics lol.
>>18360500The bible never said that man inherited Adam's knowledge of good and evil. We just inherited his curse.
>>18360500I like how your responses evidence the continuity of this specific consequence.
>>18360500>we have the exact same sense of good and evil as God Himself>we can accurately determine the good and evil of any situation with absolute certainty and zero room for error at all times.Do you even realize what you are implying? Whats the point of the judicial system then if we know right away whats good and evil? Its completely pointless if we are going with your logic. We should abolish it.>>18360106>"See, the humans have become like one of us, knowing good and evil", yet all you christcucks will say that you can't judge god's actions. Quoting this before you backtrack and claim this is not what you claimed. The idea that YOU (a lowly human) know better and can judge God Himself (the creator of the fucking universe) is so laughable.>my dad is evil because he doesnt let me stay up late until 2 am playing videogames, I know better than him.This is unironically your argument and how you sound like.
>>18360882A parent doesn't torture a child for all eternity if it disbehaved. At worst the child is abandoned or killed. Also a parent wouldn't hide its existance from its children. We call these kinds of parents bad/terrible parents.>Whats the point of the judicial system Not that anon but the judicial system enforces the morals and rules of a society. It often also just protects the ruling class. I disagree with your idea that there are objective morals in the first place but that's what you claim. You claim that there is such a thing as objective good and evil.>kikeThe anons who behave like pilpuling jews in the thread are the christians and not the ones arguing against them.
