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John Adams was right here, America has never been a "Christian nation"
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>>18359279
A lot of the founders were faggot liberals, yes. That's always the critical flaw in calling them "founders" to begin with, as if they created America out of nothing and that it spontaneously popped into existence in 1776.
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John Adams who said “our constitution is intended only for a moral and religious people it is wholly unfit for the governance of any other” yes I agree he was right
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>>18359331
>religious people
Doesn't necessarily mean Christian
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American secularism is based on the American Revolutionary tradition founded by Deists and Protestant Christians. In Europe, the state Catholic and state Protestant churchesbpersecuted various Protestants causing many to flee abroad, especially to the US, for freedom of religion.

French secularism is based on the French Revolutionary tradition which was suppression of religion. Fascism and Communism come out of that tradition.
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>>18359469
Right, he had Islam in mind because of America’s massive muslim population. Who buys this stuff?
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>>18360486
There was no state secularism in the era of the founding fathers. Despite secularist rewrites of history, nearly every state maintained a formally established state church. The 1st amendment was not applicable to anything besides the federal government until the late 1800s because of incorporation doctrine. The establishment clause originally represented not secularism, but decentralization: if the US government had its own state church this would take away the rights of the several states to establish their own.
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>>18360486
>>18360501
And I should note even the states which did not have formally established state churches still had soft establishment through sabbath laws etc. which survived well into the 20th century
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>>18359279
>this letter to a Muslim leader during a diplomatic spat means America, descendant of Christian England, populated by Christian Anglos, descended from Christian Romano-Britons and Christian Anglo-Saxons, having the Bible as their literary centerpiece and the Church community at the center of their social life, are now magically and mysteriously not Christian.
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>>18360493
He and all the founding fathers were deists, not Christians.
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>>18361290
>the founding fathers
Happened to be the political figures who initiated the American revolution. They didn't actually represent the religious sentiment of the American people at the time. Unless you treat America as an economic zone which they founded out of thin air rather than a distinct people with an ethnic core and way of life which was curated for over a century by the time of their independence.
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>>18361290
>outright lies
Why can’t atheists breathe without lying?
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>>18359279
Adams was a bit of a tyrant
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>>18359279
John Adams also said that New England was superior to the rest of the US because the people were of purer English blood, but I never see you Redditors reposting that line
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>>18361318
>american christcucks at founding cede all authority to deists
>american christcucks today cede all authority to jews



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