What was it that prevented Celtic and Mediterranean societies from burning women en masse for witchcraft? What is it that convinced Germanic societies to burn women en masse? What is it that convinced Slavic and Uralic societies to burn men en masse?Overall, how come the whiter the civilization, the crueler they were to women, the browner the civilization, the more feminist they were, and the more Asiatic the civilization, the crueler they were to men?
Germanic societies were the ones with witches.
>>18359363Your framing makes no sense. Insular Celts are Whiter by various measures such asskin coloramount of steppe ancestry
>>18359372based no-nonsense answer, refreshing
>>18359363>What was it that prevented Celtic and Mediterranean societies from burning women en masse for witchcraft?Catholicism
>>18359483why didn't catholicism prevent eastern france, southern germany, or hungary from burning witches en masse?why didn't protestantism encourage wales or northern netherlands?
>>18359406How are Brittonic Islanders "insular celts" if they do not cluster with continental celts?
>>18359363>What was it that prevented Celtic and Mediterranean societies from burning women en masse for witchcraft?Ireland never really had much of a cultural idea of evil magic people. It was mainly just evil magic fairies and you can't really accuse people of that.As for the mediterranean, the pope had more influence and the official line of the church was that witches didn't exist as that would mean people could perform miracles outside of god.>Overall, how come the whiter the civilization, the crueler they were to women, the browner the civilization, the more feminist they were, and the more Asiatic the civilization, the crueler they were to men?Skitzobabble, if anything every single one of these points should be inverted but it's still just wrong.
>>18359513>why didn't catholicism prevent eastern france, southern germany, or hungary from burning witches en masse?those places were already infected by protestantism, only fully catholic territories (iberian peninsula and italy) avoided witch huntsnetherlands was a safe haven for social rejects (jews, heretics, etc) so it doesnt count
>>18359574what if the inquisition never happened in iberia or italy?would there be far more witch executions, or were the brown societies there more respectful and feminist compared to the white misogynist patriarchies of the north?
>>18359514Because they speak Celtic.The paler skin must come from Bell Beakers btw.
>>18359620Only the north welsh speak a celtic language to any noticeable degree.And if they speak a language makes them part of that language group does that mean mexicans are ethnic spaniards? Are french speaking congolese ethnic frenchmen?
>>18359363I like that one man was singlehandedly responsible for the red circles in East Anglia. Fucking Hopkins.
>>18359363Browns are subservient cucks and will fight each other to lick women feet. Germanics tried to stop femcels, dykes and old hags from taking over but sadly they failed and keep getting punished for it to this day
>>18359514"Celtic" is unironically a culture.There is no "Celtic" per se as much as there are regional descendants of Bell Beakers - really no "Americans" or "Australians" there are regional descendants of Anglos.
Witches weren't burned, they were hanged. Or pressed. The Spanish burned far more people than the Germanic kingdoms ever did, because burning is the prescribed punishment for heresy, not witchcraft.
>>18359514Because "celt" is not a fucking ethnic group you dumbfuck. It's a language family.
Witch hunts were primarily a modern phenomenon that happened mostly in protestant areas.Not a medieval catholic one, although they were known to happen in catholic areas in modern times just to counter signal the protestants and reassure their own people that the protestant scapegoat "witches" were being dealt with. Kind of a drop in the bucket thing compared to what happened in the north.So, it's peculiar that the medieval catholics just so happen to get all the blame.Funny thing that.>how come the whiter the civilization, the crueler they were to women, the browner the civilization, the more feminist they wereIt's almost the polar opposite IRL.Protestantism simply caused enormous swathes of Europe to literally go batshit insane for about a century before they calmed down.
>>183597363000 inquisition deaths in 300 years vs 50000 witches
*ahem*Witch hunts in early modern Hungary (16th–18th centuries) were heavily concentrated in predominantly Protestant (Lutheran and Calvinist) areas, particularly in Upper Hungary and Transylvanian Saxon towns. Driven by Reformed theology, which viewed secular magistrates as executors of God's will, cities like Debrecen were hubs of persecution.The first, most severe campaigns (second half of the 16th century) were largely inspired by German demonology brought to Hungarian Lutheran towns. Northern Hungary, Transylvania, and specifically German-populated towns in these regions led the prosecutions.Protestant preachers, such as Péter Bornemisza, spread ideas about the devil's work and witches' sabbaths, which fueled trials. Unlike Western Europe, Hungarian witch-hunting was highly urban, often tied to social tensions in Protestant-dominated cities rather than just rural panic.
>>18359672Why are you responding in this autistic way?You know they are called Insular Celts because they spoke Celtic historically, right?
>>18359738"Celt" ends up working as an ethnic label in an indirect way because all Celts had their languages ultimately mediated by Bell Beaker ancestry. Bell Beaker is the common denominator even if some Bell Beaker languages were non-Celtic originally.
>>18359363>What was it that prevented Celtic and Mediterranean societies from burning women en masse for witchcraft?Although the majority were Catholic, the places where the Witch Hunts took place coincided with where the Protestant Reformation conflicts was happening. And where did this started? In Germany. The Irish and Meds are Catholic and have had little experience with Protestant movements.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_early_modern_period#Peak_of_the_trials:_1560–1630>Johann Georg Fuchs von Dornheim, Prince-Bishop of Bamberg, 1000 kills>Julius Echter von Mespelbrunn, Prince-Bishop of Würzburg, 900 kills>Johann von Schönenberg, Archbishop of Trier, 368 kills>Balthasar von Dernbach, Prince-Abbot of Fulda, 250 killsThere were hardly any witch hunts in Protestant Northern Germany, the most Nordic part and where the Germanic peoples originated, so what you're saying is total bullshit.>how come the whiter the civilization, the crueler they were to womenThe Basques are the brownest Spaniards despite the ones with more R1b, and they had the biggest witch hunt in Europe, bigger than those in Germany.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_witch_trials>The trial of the Basque witches began in January 1609 at Logroño, near Basque territory. It was influenced by similar persecutions conducted by Pierre de Lancre in the bordering Labourd, French Basque Country. Although the number of people executed was small in comparison to other persecutions in Europe, it is considered the biggest single event of its kind in terms of the number of people investigated: by the end of the phenomenon, some 7,000 cases had been examined by the Inquisition
>>18359945>The Basques are the brownest Spaniards despite the ones with more R1bBasques were the original White Europeans, which explains why they had the highest witch hysteriaLuckily the brown Spaniards Inquisition said to respect women and no to human sacrifice, like they did with the AztecsSpain was a force of good throughout the worldImagine a world without Spain
>>18359946>WHGsques were the original White EuropeansWe Wuz EEF N' Shiet.
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>>18359406Natural redheads also cannot tan unlike blondes.>The MC1R variant gene that gives people red hair generally results in skin that is difficult or impossible to tan. Because of the natural tanning reaction to the sun's ultraviolet light and high amounts of pheomelanin in the skin, freckles are a common, but not universal, feature of red-haired people>Pheomelanin is phototoxic cysteine-derivative that contains polybenzothiazine portions that amplifying the UV-induced generation of ROS 64, 67, 71, 72, largely responsible for the color of red hair, among other pigmentation. Individuals with pale skin, red hair, freckles and an inability to tan (the red hair–fair skin phenotype) are at the highest risk of developing melanoma, compared to all other pigmentation types 73>Phototoxicity, also called photoirritation, is a chemically induced skin irritation, requiring light, that does not involve the immune system
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>>18359513Aside from a handful of odd examples such as Scotland, witch burning en masse was mostly a symptom of weak government and locals taking charge and had very little to do with which religion was in charge (though religious conflicts, and the suspicion generated within small communities through it, may have been an important factor)>>18359604Probably. The earliest anti-witch laws were from Spain (northern Catalonia), and the largest trial in Europe (in terms of those accused, though IIRC only a handful of executions because the inquisition came to believe the whole thing was a sham) were also from Spain (basque region). But this can probably also be said for most of Europe. >>18359531>the pope had more influence and the official line of the church was that witches didn't existThe Catholic church believed witches existed (afterall they're in the bible) and were happy to burn witches from time to time. They were just more skeptical of what random village bumpkins claimed and believed things should be solved by learned men and rigourous investigation >>18359920The first mass scale witch hunts were from catholic medieval Europe well before the protestant reformation had started>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valais_witch_trials
>>18359946>Luckily the brown Spaniards Inquisition said to respect women and no to human sacrifice, like they did with the AztecsIf i didnt hate Spaniards (ones from former Al Andalus territory) enough
>>18360209>Valais_witch_trials1428 or anything after the Black Death is hardly medieval at that pointIt's like bringing up an invention from the 15th century before the fall of Constantinople to prove that the dark ages are a myth and never happened; it's not convincing enough to prove something was the norm for the 1000 year medieval period
>>18359363You musst obey ze nichtspoken order!
>>18361060That's cope anon, any historian would consider to be. And while the 15th century was different to the 13th, so was the 13th to the 11th, yet I'm willing to bet you would not argue one or the other of them is not medieval. If you meant the dark ages then you should've specified as much - medieval is not a narrow term. Furthermore you're completely ignoring the operative point about Protestantism. Even if I were to concede it is not medieval it is still nearly a full century before Luther nailed his Theses to that door. You could've made a real arguement about the Waldensians instead of this trash. Pointing out how the religious tensions directly contributed to the Witch trials as some historians have done, but I think this would've also fallen short since the Waldensians were not the ones in power.
>>18361152>Otto von Bismarck, a Lutheran Protestant, initiated mass deportations of Poles (known as Rugi pruskie or Prussian Deportations) between 1885-1890, forcing the departure of more than 30,000 Poles who did not have Prussian citizenship>The Prussian government created a Colonization Commission (1886) to buy land from Poles and transfer it to German settlers, in an attempt to change the demographics of the region>Prussia viewed eastward expansion (Drang nach Osten) as a The civilizing mission itself emerged when the Teutonic Order committed colonization/genocide against Prussian Baltic pagans in the Northern Crusades (They were already Proto-Nazis even before they became Protestants, hue)>"Hit the Poles so hard that they despair of their life; I have full sympathy with their condition, but if we want to survive, we can only exterminate them; the wolf, too, cannot help having been created by God as he is, but people shoot him for it if they can." - Letter of Otto von Bismarck to his sister Malwine (26/14 March 1861), published in Bismarck-Briefe (Second edition Göttingen 1955), edited by Hans Rothfels, p. 276; as quoted in Hajo HolbornThank you, Luther.https://files.catbox.moe/qfgx64.mp4
BTW The stereotype of witches' appearance in Western culture (pointed hat, cauldron, broom) originated with the British Alewives, women who dominated the home brewing roles and were often widows or women in need of income. They would place a broom outside their houses or on the door to signal to passersby that the beer was ready and for sale. To be easily seen at busy fairs, these women wore tall, pointed hats. They also brewed the beer in large cauldrons. They kept cats to protect their grain stocks from rats. With the rise in popularity and industrialization of beer (which became dominated by men), alewives began to be viewed negatively and accused of witchcraft as a way to discredit them for being rich unmarried women.
Historically, especially in Bavaria (South Germany, the epicenter of the Witch Hunt despite the fact that the places most associated with them in German folklore are in the Harz/Brocken mountains/caves like Iberg and Heimkehle are in Northern Germany), beer began to be fermented and, primarily, matured in caves, underground cellars, or tunnels carved into the rocks during the late Middle Ages and early Modern period. The German word Lager means "warehouse" or "storage." It refers to the process of storing beer in cold caves (often with ice collected from rivers/lakes) to ferment and mature during the summer. Before the invention of artificial refrigeration, brewers needed low temperatures (0°C to 4°C) to ensure the beer didn't spoil during the hot months. The cave provided this ideal cold environment. To keep the cellars cool, brewers planted chestnut trees on the hills where they excavated the caves, creating shade. They placed tables under the trees to sell the beer directly from the storage location, giving rise to the famous Bavarian beer gardens. This low-temperature storage in caves allowed bottom-fermenting yeasts (Saccharomyces pastorianus) to develop, creating the Lager style, which became the most popular in the world.
>>18361657https://files.catbox.moe/2rzxfi.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/j6gb3j.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/5ys82p.mp4
>>18361152>>18361166>>18361587>>18361657>>18361661Alright! Now make them way fatter (big bellies)
This is interesting considering that the Bacchanalia was the closest thing to the Witches' Sabbath in Antiquity, and many of the stereotypes we associate with Satan come from Pan. Jesus prophesied to Peter that the gates of hell would not resist against the Church he would build about him. This prophecy was uttered in in Caesarea Philippi (called Banias/Panias before), a place known then for a temple to the god Pan and a large cave considered "the gate of Hades," where bacchanals took place. Panias was near Mount Hermon, where the Watchers, commanded by Semyaza and Azazel, came down from heaven and made an oath/pact in earth, and Jesus, when he announced his death to his disciples, ascended with Peter, James, and John, and was transfigured along Moses and Elijah, as a preview of the glory of the resurrected Jesus, proving that he is more powerful than death and hell.According to the Greek historian Plutarch (in the 1st century AD), a sailor named Thamus (yes, his name resembles Tammuz/Dumuzid/Adonis, who had a cult in a cave in Bethlehem, and Jesus was born in a cave in Bethlehem) heard a mysterious voice coming from the sea during the reign of Emperor Tiberius (the time when Jesus was crucified, which, incidentally, was during a Jewish Passover), ordering him to announce: "The great god Pan is dead."
>>18361685Another interesting point is the ironic similarity between Jesus and Dionysus, specifically his Orphic form, Zagreus/Phanes, since Jesus was Azazel, the scapegoat for the sins of Israel, but for the Gentiles, as Jesus took upon himself the sins of the whole world and time when he was about to die. This is why the Holy Spirit abandoned him, and he uttered Psalm 22, "Father? Father? Why have you forsaken me?", since he began to minister the gospel/perform miracles after his baptism when the Holy Spirit was upon him. Sins grieve the Holy Spirit, according to Ephesians 4:30, and the wages of sin is death. According to the Book of Enoch, Azazel was imprisoned in the desert of Dudael. Dudael means Cauldron of God, and Azazel, along with Semyaza, taught women cosmetics, witchcraft, enchantments, and root cutting.
