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Historically speaking, was DeGaulle right about America
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>>18359601
In his ramblings, he forgot to mention it was France that created the USA
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The american system of government has outlasted nearly every other country on earth.
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>>18359601
America always showed favoritism to France over England. Hence why France was allowed to keep an empire after WW2 while England wasn't.
If anyone has a right to hate America, it would be the British
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>>18359613
>France was allowed to keep an empire after WW2 while England wasn't.
>If anyone has a right to hate America, it would be the British
Churchill was the one who pushed for American entry into the war. Guess he wasn't prepared for FDR to be a Stalin fanboy who didn't really give a shit about Britain.
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>>18359614
Churchill was the one to sign off eastern europe to stalin you retard.
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>>18359619
He didn't sign anything off, the percentages agreement was ignored by Stalin everywhere outside Greece. Churchill was the one that wanted WW3 to start over it and got slapped down by Truman for his trouble
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>>18359601
France created America in the late 18th century, they were allies throughout the 19th century, were allies in the world wars, and worked together to undermine the British Empire in the cold war. Fakest rivalry ever
>>18359614
Churchill thought France and the USA cared about England for some reason. He had a very naiive understanding of geopolitics
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>>18359619
FDR was the one who suggested to Stalin that India be given to the Soviet sphere of influence once it inevitably kicks Britain out. Stalin himself was taken aback by this and said it would be impractical.
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>>18359613
>Hence why France was allowed to keep an empire after WW2 while England wasn't.
What the fuck are you talking about? The French overseas departments? If Britain wanted to integrate Barbados or whatever they probably could have, but instead they refuse to even integrate the Isle of Man and the Channel Isles that are just off their coast, the different outcomes are by choice.
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>>18359640
West Africa is controlled by France
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Both the UK and France were knocked off empire status after the war. They famously tried to assert their imperialism in Suez and got slapped for it by the real big dogs, America and the USSR.
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>>18359647
Objectively wrong.
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Lmao
Said the loser
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The reason America got involved in Vietnam was to prop up the French Empire.
Has the US ever tried to prop up British influence, ever?
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>>18359631
>give jeets to the soviets instead of the west
We could have won the cold war by 1970 if stalin accepted.
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>>18359611
>be founded on Greek and Enlightenment ideas
>"It's totally original, and not based on others"
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>>18359601
When did France ever "suffer"? The French were the ones who caused the rest of Europe to suffer.
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>>18359601
>it has not always existed like Russia and France
The stupid shit nationalists come up with, I hope this was a translation error.
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>>18359765
It's especially audacious coming from a Frenchman. They literally divide themselves into the Ancien regime and the French Republic, which was founded after America.
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>>18359671
Caesar's genocide of the Gauls. Uncountable Roman civil wars and Germanic invasions. The Albigensian crusade. The black death. The French wars of religion. The reign of terror.

Those were horrors visited upon the people of what is now France. Though to be fair, half of them were horrors visited upon the French BY the French.
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>>18359770
The French alternate between boasting of their new Republic and talking about France like it is a direct continuation of Gaul.
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>>18359789
Exaggerating their history while downplaying others. That's a classic French move.
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>>18359789
They mostly larp as a Latin people and try to ignore their Germanic roots. I guess it goes hand in hand with claiming that they "always existed", which requires ignorance of the Frankish Kingdom.
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>>18359601
>america has never been invaded

The more I learn of degaulle the less I respect him
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>>18359825
A universal quality among all Frenchmen of note
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>>18359601
>muh ancient roots
Genuinely do Europeans believe their own fartsniffing? The average European bloke is dressed in an athleisure tracksuit and more concerned about the latest FIFA game and gossip about Mourinho or Jürgen Klopp's latest interview. Nobody outside of a few nerds are actually sitting and going "vgh my glorious 1000+ years of rooted ancestry and heritage..."
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>>18359628
Churchill was half-American and blinded by that
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>>18359876
They do it precisely when they need to pull anything out of their ass to make them feel superior to America.
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>>18359601
No, because his premise is retarded to begin with. France and especially Russia aren't that old to begin with
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>>18359601
Why are French faggots always malding about us? Any reasonable leader in America would have just wiped this sorry excuse of a country off the map with a well-timed nuke.
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>>18359613
America didn't push U.K to leave India in 1949, its broke ass finances did. The rest of decolonization happened in similar pace aside from UK not having an analogue to Algeria.
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>>18359787
The first two didn't happen as far as France is concerned
The 3rd 5th and 6rh were self inflicted
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>>18359628
Reminder DeGaulle was a huge US Civil War autist
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>>18359601
he was right about US wanting to treat EU like vassals, but he's always saying it from a perspective of a guy being butthurt that France has been reduced to a surrender monkeys meme by being rolled over by nazis, not from some giga 200 iq analysis

the point he is making in this specific instance is also retarded but its probably out of context
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>>18360227
French people are the descendants lf gauls genetically
Only a very few are of Germanic/Roman origin
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>>18359770
Dude, politicians will contradict themselves three times in the same sentence if it suits them. Distancing yourself from the 'immoral and contemptible' old regime with one breath, while going on to brag about your 'ancient and noble history' is a pretty small example of that.



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