>biological life which is a seamless integration of micro and macro engineering came to be purely by chance If you find a clock on the ground youll wonder who made it,
>>18360230>If you find a clock on the ground youll wonder who made it,very true, and upon realizing that this is the only known planet where clocks exist amongst millions of other planets, you might also conclude that the means for which it was made were indeed purely by chance.
>me when I spam bait
>>18360232true, it’s a mystery why clocks only exist on this planet, it must mean they suddenly randomly appeared out of chemical soup by complete chance
>>18360358Sun dial clocks did randomly appear out of random rock formations and tree growth, people noticed and refined them over time.
>>18360230>christtard tells you clocks were made by god all at once>you find evidence of clocks becoming progressively more complex and compact over the past millennia>actually you should ignore that or pretend god didn't actually make clocks all at once but he still magically guided the evolution of clocks, despite no evidence of that
>>18360230>If you find a clock on the ground youll wonder who made it,Yeah, and I'm not going to take anyone's word for it just because they confidently say they know the answer.
>>18360394Waterfalls are basically hourglasses made of water on rock instead of sand in glass.
>>18360394>people noticed and refined them over timeso they didn’t actually randomly appear, there was only rocks and trees until people made them into clocks
>>18360466No, the rocks and trees were the clocks and people used the principles they discovered by observing the rocks and trees track time with shadows to make their own versions of clocks just like people observed birds and invented planes based on similar principles.
>>18360230>seamless integration of micro and macro engineering>seamlessFar from it, actually
Its why they are obsessed with loopholes and exploiting them. Because it is not perfect and its always possible to make alterations. Its just that one needs to be careful and these people just do it as if it were the solution to everything. Damn the consequences and purposes, I guess.
>>18360473>the rocks and trees were the clocks >people noticed and refined them over timechoose 1
>>18360543Did you know that the Greeks measured earth using sticks, sunlight and shadows?. Their calculations weren't too far off. Sunlight gives you a way to measure hours, meanwhile the moon with its phases allows you to measure days. Everything is there under "laws" (chemistry) that are reproducible under the same conditions... thus a signature of the one who made it, as casualty does not work like that. Ignorant retard
>>18360543How exactly can people notice something to refine it without the things first doing what is being noticed?
>>18360586They noticed shadows, not natural sundials.
>>18360230>children were made by parents, therefore, parents must be made by childrenNo. Life made engineering, not vice versa. You do not see engineering anywhere in the absence of life, so it is a reflection of the properties of life.
>>18360921Or alternatively, think of it as a cycle. Parents and childrens are two points of the age loop. But you can't have one without the other. So it is with life. Not everything is best explained by a model of linear universal origin.
>>18360230>Biology is complex therefore all humanity was spawned from two people in a Mesopotamian garden several thousand years ago, every animal on earth traces its lineage back to two of its species on a boat during a flood, and humans are on different continents because they were teleported across the earth after building a tower, etcLook, arguments for god from philosophy aren't that bad, but you will never ever get to religion from that unless through impressive mental gymnastics
