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only japan achieve this in history
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>>18373757
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uohhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>18373757
Yeah the Pacific war is known as a tremendous success for the Japanese navy and for Japan in general
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>>18373757
That famous picture of the battleship Yamato sailing into San Francisco Bay for the treaty signing still makes me seethe. Now we have Japanese marines raping and murdering some poor schoolgirl or drunkenly running over some grandpa every other year or so in Hawaii. It’s over.
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>>18373836
Japan took on the entire world and nearly won. It took the creation of weapons of mass destruction (atomic bombs) to force Japan into unconditional surrender
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>>18373852
Reminder that Hiroshima and Nagasaki, cities that were literally nuked, have a higher standard of living than the average American city
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>>18373757
What if Japan annexed northern Sakhalin during the white-red civil war instead launching intervention? The island have less Russian and other European settlers in 1910s?
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>>18373759
>care about the Vietnamese
>sign pact with colonist scums two year later
Never forgive those jap!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Japanese_Treaty_of_1907
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>>18373938
lies
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>>18373836
Japan almost won
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>>18373757
>America is so defendable that any foreign attack however minor is considered a historic event
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>>18373757
>bomb the US mainland
the nips dropped all of 2 bombs on the US mainland, in a forest. Zero people died or were injured
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>>18374390
They tried to launch an attack on oil fields off the coast of Southern California but every single missile they fired missed their targets and they all fled without having accomplished anything.
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>>18373757
yet the japanese still lost lol
>>18373759
Vietnamese famine of 1944–1945
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>>18373757
Let's be real, Japan sunk USN CVs only because they allowed them to, having tens of available CVs and playing them so riskily because they knew the advantages of playing them like that far outweighed the consequences of losing a couple of them.
Not even gonna touch the Pearl Harbour part.
And I'm not even a USfag, but claiming Japan had any more chances of winning than Italy or Germany is delusional.
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>>18374413
Cope
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>>18374293
>>18373905

Japan was never close to winning and we should have slaughtered more gooks imo
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>>18374923
>Japan was never close to winning
Had Americas aircraft carriers been hit during the Pearl Harbor raid and had America lost the battle of midway it's possible Japan could've won the war
>we should have slaughtered more gooks imo
What do Koreans have to do with this?
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>>18373907
this is because postwar Japan realized that war is a mistake, while America decided to become the new rogue state attacking everyone in sight
Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not have a high standard of living in the imperial era.
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>>18374945
>while America decided to become the new rogue state attacking everyone in sight
What does that have to do with anything? American cities are shitholes because of black people, nothing else
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>>18373905
>>18374293
>>18374939
Japan's hopes was to inflict massive losses early on for the US to sue for a negotiated peace. They were already in an economic crisis before the war and knew full well that in a years-long war America would always win. They were desparate, took a gamble, but America were in no mood to negotiate.
>Had Americas aircraft carriers been hit during the Pearl Harbor raid
Would it lead to the US suing for peace early as Japan hoped? Not likely, what hardened America's heart was just how escalatory Japan were, they invaded like 10 places all at once.
>had America lost the battle of midway
The whole reason Midway is famous is because it tipped the scales in America's favor for the first time - something that due to America's industrial capacity was bound to happen anyway(as I said, Japan anticipated it, their hopes were to inflict to defeats on America to make them negotiate), Midway just made it happen earlier. Had America lost Midway it wouldn't have changed the bigger picture.
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Honestly the more i read about Japan in ww2 the more i just ask, wtf were they thinking?
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>>18374993
Japans actions in the lead up to WW2 and during it can be explained by the fact its military was essentially out of control, any time somebody attempted to reign them in or propose a policy they disapproved of they would just assassinate them, which then led to said military just doing whatever leading to them taking Manchuria and eventually starting a war in china, leading to the rest
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>>18374993
They modeled their government after 19th century European monarchies and wanted to go on their own 19th century imperialist conquest of the Pacific
The problem was that they were a century too late to the party
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>>18374993
Japan the island is really resource starved and Japan was the first asian nation to undergo intentional western liberalization so they were way more technologically and militarily advanced than the other asian nations, to the point where they beat the shit out of the russians, were part of WWI and were the only asian nation in the washington naval treaty. I have no idea why they thought bombing pearl harbor was a good idea. They thought joining WWII was a good idea because the US and Australia were the only Pacific nations that could stand up to them and Australia by itself probably couldn't do much more than protect the australian mainland. During WWI the japanese just stole colonies and protected shipping lanes and made a ton of money doing so, so they thought during WWII they could do the same thing and gain a lot of resources and money capturing all of the islands on the asian side of the Pacific
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>>18374993
Up until WW2 they had pretty much never lost a war. Mongols, Russia, China etc had all been spanked by the Japs, I think they genuinely believed they were unbeatable.
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>>18374392
cry more
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>>18376210
spain does all those things and even better than japan

unlike japan, spanish empire actually liberated the americas and gave them culture and catholicism (whereas japan just put asians under “new management”), and in spain you don’t need to be a workaholic to live in paradise
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>>18374124
*truth
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>>18374923
You lost to Korean, faggot
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>>18374413
>Japan sunk USN CVs only because they allowed them to, having tens of available CVs

The US started with 6 fleet carriers and lost 4 of them before the first replacement was launched. By late 1942 the USN had one "operational" carrier snd even it had enough battle damage to render an elevator out of operation.
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>>18376210
you have near zero birthrates and you recently cucked out to globohomo, you are in the same boat
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>>18376489
you have same level birthrate
also that is old story idiot
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>>18376210
Japanese success is entirely based on western culture,civilization and money though.
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>>18373757
>Sanest Tojoboo
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>>18374993
Pride, arrogance, and the need for resources
>Japan wants to keep and expand their empire while at the same time not relying on the West for resources
>To achieve this, it needs to secure the resource deposits of Asia, which are all European colonies
>The European colonies are vulnerable but protected by the US
>Neutralize the US first, then secure all the resources, then bunker down and expect the allies to sue for peace as it would more costly to dislodge them.
Had they just kept themselves to Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria I doubt any of this would've happened.
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>>18376317
>spain does all those things and even better than japan
LMFAO
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>>18376489
the current PM is deporting all browns and I keep getting ig vids of japanese thots hating on jeets
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>>18373757
>we sneak-attacked a harbor and then got our shit pushed in, we wuz emperorz n shiat famtachi!!
Okay mr. mitsubishi. Draw more anime girls now please.
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>unlike japan, spanish empire actually liberated the americas and gave them culture and catholicism
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>>18376869
So Indonesia being a shithole is also Japan's fault huh?
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>>18377170
I don't think japanese rule in indonesia lasted for 300 years
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>>18377265
nta but
>everything isn't black people's fault
stop pretending you are American, you thirdie jeet.
housing prices are literally black people's fault, nonAmerican. towns wont build houses because people dont want to live near blacks and dont want blacks in their kids schools
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>>18377170
indonesia is poor but they have very low crime rates similar to japan

now korea on the other hand...
yeah, blame the japanese
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>>18377265
nta but
>everything isn't black people's fault
stop pretending you are American, you thirdie jeet.
housing prices are literally black people's fault, nonAmerican. towns wont build houses because people dont want to live near blacks and dont want blacks in their kids schools
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>>18377304
I'm white and American, unlike you you third world shitskin jeet. zoning laws are explicitly about not letting blacks and Mexicans move into town, shitskin.
that's why they always cited "neighborhood character"
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>>18376835
not true idiot
edo was most advanced city in world and japanese was all very high literacy
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>>18376486
>naval might is when you count only the active carriers and not all the ships and the ones under construction, also Japan wasn't losing any vessels and if they did they could replace them just as easily as the USN
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>>18376859
>12 years
>thot
?
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>>18378006
The post I originally replied to suggested that the USN could afford to throw carriers away in 1942. This post suggests that as long as they were trading them roughly at par with Japanese carriers it's fine. Do you see the difference?

It was very important that Yorktown limped home after Coral Sea because Midway would have went differently with just two carriers. It didn't really matter that Bunker Hill and Franklin made it to port.
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>>18373759
Didn't Japs regularly commit pogroms against Koreans in Japan?
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>>18378767
I didn't say they were 12. IG pushes ethot vids because people watch them. most japanese ethots hate jeets so they'll make normal ethot vids and then anti jeet ones or ones about how the jews are importing the jeets
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>>18374939
>Had Americas aircraft carriers been hit during the Pearl Harbor raid and had America lost the battle of midway it's possible Japan could've won the war
In reality
>Japan sucessfully destroys the US Pacific navy in Pearl Harbor and Midway
>has no way to capitalize on this
>does intermittent attacks on Hawaii while the US builds a new navy
>gets its shit kicked in by the new US Navy and superior Air Force
>gets nuked
>surrenders
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They were just channeling faustian culture, which is the same thing lefties are trying to destroy.
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>>18379039
>Didn't Japs regularly commit pogroms against Koreans in Japan?
not regularly, but they did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kant%C5%8D_Massacre
According to multiple reports from Japanese witnesses, beginning on the night of September 2, police officers in Yokohama, Kanagawa and Tokyo began informing residents that it was permissible to kill Koreans. Some orders were conditional, such as killing Koreans who resist arrest, but others were more direct: "kill any Koreans who enter the neighborhood" or "kill any Koreans you find."[13] Also on the night of September 2, as police organized a vigilante band to kill Koreans in the Noge region of Yokohama, one of the organizing police officers told a newspaper reporter that Koreans had been caught with a list of neighborhoods to burn, carrying gasoline and poison for wells.[14] In the town of Yokosuka, police officers told locals that Korean men were raping Japanese women, inciting Japanese men to form vigilante lynch mobs.[15] In Bunkyō, the police falsely reported that Koreans had poisoned the water and food supply.[16] Nishizaka's final report on the massacre acknowledges in a secret appendix that these rumors were all false.
The strangest thing to me is that Koreans still love visiting Japan and frequently go there to visit, Japanese hate Koreans more than almost anyone else on the planet. It is legitimately puzzling to me why people would explicitly go where they are not wanted, but then again, not every tool in the shed is a sharp one.
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>>18373759
>>18373757
Aren't the japs supposed to pretend pearl harbor never happened? WW2 isn't even taught in their schools,
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>>18373905
>>18373852
>>18373836
Japan was never close to winning, immediately starting with the battle of Midway Island it was one defeat after another for them.

The US fleet even steam rolled past islands filled with Japanese troops that were deemed unimportant to the war effort, so instead of wasting Marine lives and resources, japs all across dotted islands simply starved to death after their supply lines were cut, and they merely watched the US naval fleet speed past them, wake Island was fucking ignored altogether, the dumb japs there just wasted away while the Japanese home islands were blockaded

They never stood a chance
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>>18379572
Idiot.
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>>18379039
No
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>>18374993
They were doing what they had to during a difficult time.
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>>18379039
American and Chinese should exterminate Korean and colony both.
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>>18376869
This kill /n/iggers (reddit refugee)
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>>18374900
Seethe
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>>18373757
Didn't Germany sneak submarines into the atlantic coast of America.
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>>18379572
america attack japan first with abcd encirclement, flying tigers, oil embargo and hull note
learn history idiot
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>>18380031
>The ABCD Encirclement refers to a series of embargoes imposed on Japan by the United States, Britain, China, and the Netherlands in the early 1940s
USA ( yankikes) and KMT China mad that French Indochina was capture kek
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>>18380034
eat shit, thirdie
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>>18380031
>>18379746
You dumb fucking jap, two nukes weren't enough
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>>18373757
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>>18373905
Japan couldn't even finish off China. They were bogged down and in a few years, without outside assistance, constant Chinese uprisings in their occupied territory would have pushed them out.
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>>18380044
>eat shit, thirdie
>America future Indian, Chinese, and Latino
lol
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>>18380099
I'm white, cry about it forever you third world shit skin tranny.
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>>18373905
Last time I heard, ending up in a fight against the entire world is a failstate, not a prestige point
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>>18380105
>Burgercope while drinking kikes cum
Mutts never whites
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>>18380077
Japan would've won the Second Sino-Japanese War if not for American interference.
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>>18380055
Kys
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Should've nuked the entire island, worthless bugmen race lusted over for its dogshit gooktoons for manchildren and race traitors heiling kikeler.
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>>18380657
this, but england
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>>18380484
Americans are the only white people, you brown shitskin third world tranny
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>>18380945
>not capitalizing White
Ok brownoid



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