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Why have sex workers been consistently shat on across time and space despite providing a valuable public service?
With only a couple of exceptions like Mesopotamia and Greece, sex workers have been abused consistently in societies separated by time and space.
Makes me think the patriarchy is real.
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>>18374470
Worse than that. Women don't even have to fuck you to get paid even more now with of and shit
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Prostitution is not "a valuable public service" you autistic baboon. A woman who embraces motherhood and marriage is infinitely more valuable simply due to is produced by that choice.
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>>18374478
>A woman who embraces motherhood and marriage is infinitely more valuable simply due to is produced by that choice.
Kek, what if it's a prostitute
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>>18374470
Laws are there to protect women and the wealthy. Men are often happy to just scrap it out. Women don't want competition.
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>>18374470
>Why have sex workers been consistently shat on across time and space despite providing a valuable public service?
Because a dramatic rise of them at any given time and place is often indicative of serious economic and cultural decline. Women en masse don't become literal paid whores unless shit is really bad.
>sex workers have been abused consistently in societies separated by time and space
Because the vast majority of "sex workers" are either de jure or de facto slaves trafficked into the industry against their will at any given time.
>Makes me think the patriarchy is real.
It is but that's besides the point because that means fuckall, humans are biologically patriarchal like most great apes
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>>18374470
It destroys society. Natrual selection should be about survival and desire, not money.
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>>18374478
Prostitution is probably one of the most valuable professions to society. Even medieval Christian thinkers admitted it was the lesser evil to stop incels from doing more debased things.

Internet porn alone has probably contributed to a massive drop in incel sexual violence. Look at any country where porn and prostitution is banned and you will also find a population of incel rapists.
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>>18374478
So what you are saying is that prostitutes should just allow men to go raw and then donate the baby? Great concept!
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>>18374470
>Why have sex workers been consistently shat on across time and space despite providing a valuable public service?
The capitalist function of the uterus


Never as with the advent of capitalism has the destruction of woman as a
person meant also the immediate diminution of her physical integrity.
Feminine and masculine sexuality had already before capitalism undergone a
series of regimes and forms of conditioning. But they had also undergone
efficient methods of birth control, which have unaccountably disappeared.
Capital established the family as the nuclear family and subordinated within it
the woman to the man, as the person who, not directly participating in social
production, does not present herself independently on the labour market. As it
cuts off all her possibilities of creativity and of the development of her working
activity, so it cuts off the expression of her sexual, psychological and
emotional autonomy.
We repeat: never had such a stunting of the physical integrity of woman taken
place, affecting everything from the brain to the uterus. Participating with
others in the production of a train, a car or an aeroplane is not the same thing as
using in isolation the same broom in the same few square feet of kitchen for
centuries.
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>>18374731
2/2

This is not a call for equality of men and women in the construction of
airplanes, but it is merely to assume that the difference between the two
histories not only determines the differences in the actual forms of struggle but
brings also finally to light what has been invisible for so long: the different
forms women’s struggles have assumed in the past. In the same way as women
are robbed of the possibility of developing their creative capacity, they are
robbed of their sexual life which has been transformed into a function for
reproducing labour power: the same observations which we made on the
technological level of domestic services apply to birth control (and, by the
way, to the whole field of gynaecology), research into which until recently has
been continually neglected, while women have been forced to have children
and were forbidden the right to have abortions when, as was to be expected, the
most primitive techniques of birth control failed.
From this complete diminution of woman, capital constructed the female role,
and has made the man in the family the instrument of this reduction. The man
as wage worker and head of the family was the specific instrument of this
specific exploitation which is the exploitation of women.

Mariarosa Dalla costa
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>>18374470
If you think really hard about it, I'm sure you can figure out why women who allow fat ugly old men to cum in them for a couple bucks are looked down upon. I believe in you, OP.
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>>18374478
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Sexual repression
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I don't see the point honestly, especially when porn is so readily available that you can just jack off for free. Fucking a prostitute really isn't much better than just jacking off, actually it might be worse, at least when you just jack off by yourself there's less contemplative regret the next day
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>>18374771
Virgin detected
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>>18374470
Because they are immoral. Only an immoral person would even be a sex worker. So that means they'll steal from you, lie to you, cheat on you, they are immoral. They only care about themselves. They'll probably have to reincarnate as a broke, ugly, loner or something. Or, they might've already been one and now they are experiencing what the opposite feels like. It depends on the person. Common sense g. You have a brain for a reason bro.
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>>18374775
The irony in this post is palpable. Let me put it in plain and simple terms
Fucking a prostitute is nothing like having sex with a real woman. You'll understand when you get older kiddo.
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>>18374718
>Taking slave moralists' word as to what is wholesome or not
lol, lmao even.
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>>18374718
Christianity was first embraced by slaves, protitutes and murderers.
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>>18374718
>Internet porn alone has probably contributed to a massive drop in incel sexual violence.
[citation needed]
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>>18374883
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49644341_Pornography_and_Sex_Crimes_in_the_Czech_Republic
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>Why have sex workers been consistently shat on across time and space despite providing a valuable public service?
It's what they're paid for, if you're into that kind of thing
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Basically: if they werent "despised", they would rule society.
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>>18375165
so like trans?
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>>18374908
Thanks I will know proceed to watch porn and masturbates
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Because prostitution threatens the instituion of marriage, family and raising kids.
Its way easier for a man to pay for a quick fuck with a prostitute every once in a while than to marry a woman, look after her and raise a family.
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>>18374470
Why do girls pull up their yoga pants like this. There's a girl I work with who is always doing it.

Is it more comfortable or is it to show off her ass?
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>>18375228
or kikes
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>>18374470
Who is she?
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>>18374509
>Because a dramatic rise of them at any given time and place is often indicative of serious economic and cultural decline. Women en masse don't become literal paid whores unless shit is really bad.
You are completely wrong about this, women in western society have been whores for 2 decades now, this is not incel talk or any bullshit like that. Women have been using facebook, snapchat, instagram, whatever to pose semi or completely naked and get contacted by men to fuck them. Onlyfans iis only the newest iteration.

And yet society has not collapsed in the alst 20 years.
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>>18375630
>women in western society have been whores for 2 decades now
2 decades? Try 5 decades at this point. Women were hardly trad in the 60s either
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>>18375630
>society has not collapsed in the alst 20 years
Nigger we're looking at complete demographic annihilation everywhere in the world by the end of this century in part to unchecked whorishness combining with the pill seperating sex from procreation. We're already done for.
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>>18374470
>Every culture, religion, and counrty intuitively recognizes something as wrong and depraved
>"That must mean it's good!"
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>>18374470
Because having the cumsex with the man with dick in butt ass titties booby pussy cum raunchy sex felchtime takes less skill than learning something and putting the knowledge to use
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>>18375630
You know how we know you are a teenager kissless virgin?
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>>18374718
Porn has perhaps made incels less likely to act out on their sexual frustration, but it has also made their frustration worse and more prevalent.
Prostitution is VERY different as actually getting to have sex does improve your well-being while only getting to watch and not partake leaves you more miserable.
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>>18375697
Are you sure that having sex makes men feel better?

I am disgusted to admit this, but the first time I fucked a man in the butt, I vomited when I left his home. The first time I fucked a tranny, I vomitted too.

Before you say "just fuck women retard", THERE ARE NO WOMEN TO FUCK FOR MOST MEN. Women only want the best looking men when it comes to fucking them casually. And in the usa, prostitution is illegal and if you try to contact an escort they will know you are inexperienced and rob you/possibly murder you with their pimp.
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>>18375652
The only depraved thing about sex work is the pimps and the johns exploiting the women but people always shit on the latter instead of the former.
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>>18375652
Japan and Korea don't see prostitution as wrong and depraved, they're actually pretty open about providing sex services to all the shut-in virgins there
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>>18375706
It's mostly about the pheromones that you get from skin-to-skin contact. Exactly how and where you jizz is less relevant, except that NEVER getting to do it with a woman does fuck you up mentally, especially if you have access to porn.
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>>18374470
In Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece, women were valued based on their purity and chastity.
There's also a religious aspect too. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism all forbid sex outside of marriage. Even polytheistic nations like Ancient Mesopotamia and Ancient Rome disliked sex workers.
You're correct, there were examples. The Hetaira and Geisha are the most popular, but there were also lots of sex workers in Ancient Mesopotamia.
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>>18375706
you are gay lol
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>>18375712
>pimps and the johns exploiting the women but people always shit on the latter instead of the former
So how would you create an "englightened" prostitution then that doesn't have any adverse effects? You can't.
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>>18374470
They are unanimously dirty with STDs and men's secretions. They have sex with pathetic johns who have to pay for sex! That means the woman you were intimate with, which ought to be a contemporaneous enterprise, is someone who has sex with losers. It should rack your conscience that you ARE INCAPABLE of bagging a formidable, fair, and virtuous woman -- but are rather, abusing a street-urchin!
I mean, by gosh, the woman pretends to like you! Do you know the ways this will damage your self-worth, even if in large-part unconsciously. It will doom you to being a weak, non-respected, incontinent, socially-helpless man. When you could so easily just be a lover and a charmer for love's own sake. So as not to ever profane love by calling the transactional 'means-to-ends' by the name love. Slander!
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Because men just can't be honest with what they want.
Whores.
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>>18375852
I'm not judging, I'm just asking why attitudes towards sex workers have always leaned towards scorn and disdain in societies completely removed by time and space.
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>>18374470
>>18374478
it is taking something that is meant to be held in reverence such as beauty, affection, and women, and commercializing it for carnality.

it is repulsive to healthy and enlightened people.
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>>18376021
>I'm just asking why attitudes towards sex workers have always leaned towards scorn and disdain
Because as I said it's a sign of social, cultural, and/or economic decay. If women aren't helping with domestic/agrarian labor or married and instead are whores that fuck anyone for money it's a bad thing.
Think of it like broken windows but with people and you get the concept.
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This board is full of pseuds and midwits
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>why do people hate people who make a mockery of human intimacy in exchange for money
Gee, i wonder
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>>18375706
>Are you sure sex makes men feel better?
>I fucked a man out of sheer sexual desperation because I can't even get a woman to look at me and that made me feel bad
I have a hunch that your entire life is a train wreck.
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>>18374718
>Look at any country where porn and prostitution is banned and you will also find a population of incel rapists.
maybe try looking at racial breakdowns instead to see the actual pattern lmao
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>>18376272
this existence is a mockery.
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>>18377880
you should be wary of your words, you will be surprised at the amoun of white men who are incels, white men too have been the heroes who usually start revolutions and bring down states when they are frustrated enough
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>>18376272
Is a comedy show a mockery of jokes?
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>>18375236
People can still get married and have children with prostitution around.
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>>18376024
>meant to be held in reverence
source?
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>>18377886
>t. 14 year old retard newnigger who never saw a single racial rape stat breakdown
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>>18374470
Gong farming, the medieval job of cleaning out literal cesspits, was an extremely valuable public service and they were even paid handsomely, yet no one wanted to be around them and they were not respected. This is because they had to wade around in human shit all the time for their job, which is disgusting. I hope this enlightens you
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>>18377942
This comparison would make men the shit.
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>>18377897
>literally comparing love to a joke
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>>18378096
Does a restaurant make a mockery of cooking?
Does taking commissions make a mockery of art?
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>>18378169
>Does a restaurant make a mockery of cooking?
>Does taking commissions make a mockery of art?
In a cosmic sort of sense, yes
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Idk who I hate more. Whores or the degenerate losers that use them.
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>>18378180
Watch out anons, the holier-than-thou online tradcaths is judging you
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>>18378174
Source?
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>>18375928
>the woman pretends to like you
That's how most women are and I prefer to know ahead of time that the woman is putting on an act and it's clear that it's just business.
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>>18375706
>Women only want the best looking men
Anon, i am 5'6. My hairline has receded a little. I've got grays creeping in. I have no money.

I am LITERALLY an autistic larper. I straight up put candids of me larping, in plate armor, on my dating profiles. I have a girlfriend, a fuckbuddy, a pair of friends to trade nudes with, and another woman who'll start fucking once her job slows down.

Literally just act like a human being, treat them like human beings, make your interest known, and DON'T treat them like meat. Women are fucking easy.
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>>18379074
>i'll take things that didn't happen for 800
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>>18379074
Post your armour, right now.
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>>18374716
>muh natural selection
Yawn
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>>18375706
Women shouldn't actually have a choice in that matter.
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>>18379074
Same height as you but Fwb always seemed weird to me, for basically all my life.
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>>18379190
Most of my gear is EXTREMELY identifiable because of how I've decorated and modified it. Have the interior of my spaulder. The rest is packed away for winter, and as fun as mocking that anon is, I'm not invested enough to dig it out.
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>>18374470
stds and breaking up nuclear families would be two obvious reasons
as well as abortion/infanticide which admittedly occurred just as much among married couples in some societies
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>>18374796
So you're saying Christianity was first embraced by those most in need of Christ?
Great observation!
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Porn and whores are the only thing standing beetwen incels and the revolution(Rape)
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>>18374470
>Why have sex workers been consistently shat on across time and space
Because people are willing to pay them for it.
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>>18378015
Well yes, do you find men's secretions appealing?
If you do, I may have more news for you about yourself
But no, the point is that everyone wants the services of the gong farmer, no woman particularly wants to be the one to marry one. The same goes for whores and men.
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>>18374470
Putting your dick in a used hole is fucking disgusting. By extension, used holes are disgusting.
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>>18379354
lol by this logic morally upright and productive people have no need of Jesus
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>>18374478
>>18376024
Prostitution has been around since society began and it will always be around as long as society exists. There will always be places where the unwanted, the unfortunate and the dropouts congregate. Christianity doesn't seem to have solutions for the many who fall through society's cracks. And no, simply converting to a religion will not solve the immediate material problems someone has.
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>>18375706
There are plenty of women to fuck, you just fucked a dude and a trans person because you wanted to kek
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>>18379292
They should because then it weeds out anons who are weak and shouldn't reproduce
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hey look, another thread where people who don't have sex, argue with other people who don't have sex, about people who do
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>>18379343
That's pretty cool
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>>18380689
>by that logic
the point is that there are no morally upright people who meet God's standard
If you think you're better than the rest and don't need salvation, you are committing the sin of pride.
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>>18375706
You are a homosexual.
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>>18374478
This. Unless maybe she is infertile, then I would be neutral on this, although, there is a problem of STDs.
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>>18377905
it is the centerpiece of romance for a reason.
>>18380694
This is not a case FOR prostitution or its morality anymore than the existence of hunger is a case that we should be hungry or that hunger is morally good.
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>>18380694
>unwanted, unfortunate, dropouts
prostitution today is done by a social elite.
>Christianity
Christianity?
What are you talking about?
arguing against prostitution isnt a Christian position, though I imagine Christians greatly disagree with it.
Christianity DOES have a solution for it, conversion and repentance.
people arent problems to solve in Christianity but beings to love.

unfortunately for prostitutes, I think they are problems.
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>>18380694
>Christianity doesn't seem to have solutions for the many who fall through society's cracks
is this a serious post?
Christianity takes an extreme concern with uplifting the downtrodden, so much so that it's probably why whatever secular ethics you subscribe to does so too
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>>18379074
I can't even begin to fathom how fat and gross the women you have sex with are
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/his/ incels CANNOT refute her
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>>18374470
The entire "job" of a whore is basically to commit adultery & fornication for money. If you're a virgin and try to pay a whore for sex there's actually a non-zero chance they'll refuse because some of them will tell you outright that your first time is 'supposed to be special', almost like they're speaking from experience with how many cocks they've been stuffed with over the years.
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>>18374718
>Look at any country where porn and prostitution is banned and you will also find a population of incel rapists
These are non-White third world slums suffering from consistently high crime rates in most cases. Nations that ban porn and curb crime effectively at the same time can have a record low amount of "incel rape" if the populace is also good
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>>18374470
Theres nothing wrong with sex workers. Women in general should be abused and enslaved.
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>>18374478
>Prostitution is not "a valuable public service"
Correct.
For women to have a rewarding life they should be married young and focus on raising a family.

And that is a good idea, but only a small percentage of men can afford to financially support a wife and family.

So since the economic conditions have been rigged against the family, it should be no surprise that there has been a precipitous decrease in the fertility rate amongst those with the cognitive wherewithal to plan further ahead than the next orgasm.

I'll let you try to figure out what races do and don't have such foresight.
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>>18375697
The wellbeing and happiness of incels is not a priority and should never have been. The sooner incel genes die out the better. Porn is based and redpilled and pedopuritancels and serial monogamy sexual communists get the rope.
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>>18374481
Because there is no father, they produce more prostitutes, male (homosexual) and female.
They attract debauched men and lack cognitive discernment and so will not have the ability to prevent their children from early sexualisation, thus making the homosexuality and promiscuity worse in their male and female children.
They are a memetic virus.
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>>18374470
It's just not a place we want our daughters and sisters to end up in.
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>>18382226
This. It's, what kind of world do we want to live in?
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>>18381908
>incel genes should die out
>therefore we should keep them miserable
non sequitur
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>>18381908
There are no incel genes, it's just certain genes, certain experiences, circumstances mixed into one. There and will be more "incels" as long as humans are humans.



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