Why would the most powerful being in the Universe have a human son who he then allows to suffer and die?
>>18379161To provide the vessel for the people that are of God to identify collectively as the body of God and use the name of God for themselves in order to have eternal life and dominion over all of creation forever.
>>18379161parallels Abraham
>>18379252So Islam is the true religion of Abraham? Because if you remember, Abraham in the story didn't end up sacrificing his son. Islam holds that Isa(Jesus) wasn't actually crucified, it just appeared so— he was actually rescued at the last minute. If you're looking for parallels this seems more apt. >>18379161>Christianity vs IslamThese religions are popular, but what is popular is not always correct. I consider this a false dichotomy. But an interesting discussion topic.
>>18379320>desert runes written 7-8 centuries after Christ are the true story>this is what op unironically believes lmao Christians live rent-free in everyone's head, including muzzies
>>18379320Why did GOD save his alien hybrid son Issac from sacrifice and let him have a nation but killed sadistically his other alien hybrid son Jesus like a criminal pedo pirate on a cross?
>>18379161For the same reason that the hadith at https://sunnah.com/muslim:2767b says:"No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire."To the point that as https://sunnah.com/muslim:2767a says:"When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire."Christ is the ultimate version of this.
>>18379329Mohammad (pbuh) is indeed the Seal of the Prophets, there has been no major Abrahamic religion after Islam was revealed alhamdulillah mashallah.
>>18379367And why should I take his word over the Evangelists and Apostles who knew Jesus personally (except Paul who saw Him in a vision)?
>>18379374Because Mohammad (pbuh) is undeniably the last prophet and Islam the final revelation as I said. History proves it's true.
>>18379386Again, the Evangelists knew Christ and saw what happenedyou have not given me a single reason for taking the Quran over the New Testament
>>18379450>the Evangelists knew ChristNo? Only two of them, Matthew and John are said to be eyewitness accounts, and those gospels were attributed to them by the church since they're not signed, while Mark and Luke never claimed to have met Jesus even if they wrote the other two gospels.
>>18379365The logic of this reasoning doesn't make sense to me. That means all muslims are actually destined for hellfire but a jew or christian takes their place like the chicken that jews sacrifice and put their sins upon them? Jews and christians weren't destined for hellfire but because muslims existing they are put there to absolve the muslim sins? Pagans are absolved from this? Wouldn't that mean that believing in the abrahamic God is an evil thing? Wouldn't make that being a muslim an evil thing that deserves hellfire? For me it sounds like allah is admitting that he is some kind of demon or demong god there who likes to torture his followers but decided not to torture muslims but christians and jews instead because they also worship him. That's my logical explaination for that passage.Islam is a stupid religion.
>>18379450The gospels are 2nd-century forgeries. None of them were written by the people they were attributed to and it's likely that Paul, the apostles or even Jesus himself never existed.
>>18379694>source: your asstruly euphoric gentlexir
>>18379564They all agree on Jesus and the Resurrection You're not helping your case by arguing like a retard
>>18379161Why would thje most powerful being in the universe let the previous god knows how many iterations of his one true faith be rejected and corrupted but randomly stop that from happening for Islam?Religions all have parts that make no sense, you just gotta live with it.
>>18379450> the Evangelists knew Christ and saw what happenedAssuming traditional authorship, only Matthew and John were there (whose testimonies differ greatly). Mark is presumably Peter's account and no one knows for certain where Luke got his information because Paul wasn't there.
>>18379782>They all agree on Jesus and the Resurrection
>>18379813>this ms paint diagram disproves the Gospelcope
>>18379799>ack-shuallyDo they disagree on the Resurrection? Yes/No answer
>>18379907>the GospelWhich one?
>>18379948>can't answerI accept your cohencession
>>18379957Answer what? I was the one asking the question, which you didn't answer. If you're talking about >>18379910did you know they added alternate endings to Mark's gospel to harmonize it with Matthew and Luke because there were no post-resurrection appearances of Jesus in its original ending?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_16#Alternate_endings
>>18379981>muh hypotheticalsand that makes the Gospel less valid than the Quran because?You're not making any sense bud
>>18379981also your inability to answer has been double notedgo pilpul somewhere else, loser
>>18379910Yes. They have different accounts of who was there, what happened, when it happened.Curiously, Luke mentions Peter going to the Tomb and being amazed, which Mark (that is, the account of Peter's closest associate) makes no mention of. In fact it says the women told no one.
>>18380048I said nothing about the Quran or hypotheticals.>>18380050It has been answered several times already in this thread, even John got an extra ending apparently, and the whole point of that gospel was to retcon the synoptics.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_21#Scholarly_discussionsIf the Evangelists can't agree on the basic facts about Jesus' life, death, and purported resurrection, why should we trust them?
>>18379161Why would the most powerful being in the Universe let his supreme chosen prophet and peak human being being sexually molested by jeets?
>>18380202>a harmless hadith speaking of djinns praying alongside the prophet>perverted creep judeochristians interpret is as homosexual rapeI know the bible is fillen with degeneracy but please cool it with the projection
>>18380211>The very graphic description of the rape is just a metaphor, i swear!
>>18380211>hurr durr they were djinnNowhere in the text does it say they were Djinn (and Djinn aren’t real anyways), it only refers to them as al-Zuṭṭ (الزُّطُّ). The Zutt were Indians who migrated to Arabia during Sassanid-times and the name “Zutt” is an Arabized form of “Jat.”>hurr durr they were crowding around himNope. “Riden” is a translation of the words yarkabūna (يَرْكَبُونَ) meaning “they ride” and rakibūh (رَكِبُوهُ) meaning “they rode him,” they both deprive from the root word rakiba (رَكِبَ) meaning “to ride” and all of these words can be used in a sexual context in Classical Arabic. “Crowding around” is a more obscure usage of the word and even if the Hadith was about the Zutt following him around, the imagery still would be hilarious as fuck since the text says they were naked.>hurr durr weak Hadith It was narrated by one of the most trusted reciters of the Quran, Abdullah ibn Masud, it is part of the Sahih al-Bukhari (the collection of canonical Hadiths), and most scholars agree it’s real. Even if you think the Hadith is “weak,” it doesn’t change the fact that someone decided to write it down and the fact that it wasn’t among the Hadiths burnt for being “forgeries” means that it was considered to be legit.Taqiyya isn’t working Muslims. Just admit your “anti-gay” prophet took BBC and enjoyed it.
>>18380297>and Djinn aren’t real anywaysproof?
>>18379948
>>18380398Everything is real.
>>18380407Without Matthew and Luke there's no virgin birth thoughbeit
>>18380407>>18380514
>>18380572"Salvation is from the Jews" (John 4:22)
Maybe we should just keep Mark and discard the rest.
>>18380297>TaqiyyaTexual source from the scripture?
>>18380588Maybe no Jew books would be better.
>>18380063Then you're in the wrong thread chumpBut keep fighting those strawmen
>>18380753>Maybe no Jew would be betterFTFY
>>18380057>yeswrongAll 4 agree Jesus came back so there is no disagreementthanks for playing though
>>18380759>can't answerI accept your christcuckcession
>>18380768>goalpost movingmake a proper thread and I'll btfo your stupidity
>>18380774Why not do it here and now? Oh that's right you can't faggot
>>18380778Because I'm White and White people follow rulessucks to suck moshi
>>18380783The only rule you follow is sucking Jew cock
Tell me more about the resurrection, /his/. How did it happen historically?
>>18380786>kvetching>projecting go sit on a menorah to honor moloch, or whatever you freaks of nature do
>>18380925It happened 4 times.
>>18380939Ironically, according to your mohel Shaul ha-Tarsi, it's the goyim who are freaks of nature, grafted unnaturally into the cultivated Jew tree.
>>18381060>capitalizes the j slurback to the tunnel you filthy rat! Iran is bombing your shithole again
>>18381127Know your place, goy.
>>18379161Because God wants to serve??!
>>18381141>projecting againknow your genes gypsynow shoo back to your rat tunnel, I taught you enough for one day
