>Skyrockets suicides>Makes intelligent people stop breeding>Atomises people and turns them into human cattle >Destroys all transcendental human goals and values and validates all degenerate behaviour >Once people are mindfucked by it, that's it, the damage is permanent There is literally nothing more prone to collapse than atheist society
>>Skyrockets suicides>>Makes intelligent people stop breeding>>Atomises people and turns them into human cattle>>Destroys all transcendental human goals and values and validates all degenerate behaviour>>Once people are mindfucked by it, that's it, the damage is permanent
>>18386087How does religion actually prevent any of thee things though? This is a serious question. If God is meant to carry out our final judgement, then what exactly makes us obligated to care about anything in the material realm? With God, all things are permitted.
>>18386087I agree. We need European polytheism to replace it
>>18386100Knowing that God loves you and everything is going along his perfect plan is enough to keep you going, while the atheist gets overwhelmed and commits suicide. Also you are going to hell if you kill yourself.Knowing that you are participating in god's creating act is enough for you to partake in it while also getting the holy marriage sacrament. Also you go to hell if you use contraception.
>>18386087>this world is so shit that people literally kill themselves if they don't believe a god will punish them for it, or reward them if they don't>shouldn't we do something about this? Make the world a better place?>no, let's double down on the "god" lie that no intelligent person believes anymore and seethe about atheists seeing through it
>>18386095Rent free, chaim.
>>18386087So, like, how do we get intelligent people to start thinking it's true that this universe was caused by a guy with holes in his hands?
>>18386087>>18386325The Czech Republic is one of the most atheist countries on the planet and has a lower suicide rate than the US. If it did work though, religion as a means of preventing suicide would be great for the economy. Keeping those golems who are already dead inside chugging away at he conveyor belt because they're afraid they'll burn in magic lava forever lol.
>>18386095I'm Catholic and I have no idea WTF this priest is doing
>>18386327You tried to "make the world a better place" by infecting westerners with oikophobia, sent 1.5 trillion dollars in aid to Africa, started sexual liberation and female material independence, invented the birth control pill, legalized abortions, legalized homosexuality and even homosexual marriage, forced tolerance of transsexuals, and abolished freedom of association. It only made things worse. No morality without God.
>>18386638>caring about "the world"lolTrue sign of a loser who has nothing to care for in his own life. You lost (at life).
>>18386641>"the only reason people feel more lost than ever without religion is because we didn't make the world a better">well your secular humanism has actually made enormous inroads in the past century or so and the problem has quite literally occurred under its experiment>"heh imagine caring about the world anyway"I see, anon.
>>18386087Cope harder. Even if atheism personally rapes you in the ass, that still doesn't prove it wrong.
>>18386645>the only reason people feel more lost than ever without religion is because we didn't make the world a betterI literally never said that. The only reason why many people can't cope without religion is that they're retards who lost at life. That's a constant which will continue being true in the future, hence why religions or quasi-religious movements will always exist.
>>18386658Then you're not >>18386327 which is who I responded to.
>>18386662Yeah never said I was. Why'd you assume two completely contradictory posts are by the same person anyway, seems retarded.
>>18386087>Makes intelligent people stop breedingThat would be the industrial revolution and society transitioning to urbanite nuclear families instead of rural generational households.
>>18386666This is misleading, the initial fertility drop was due to decreased infant mortality.
>>18386665I'd say it's retarded and rather odd to choose your post as a reply to my response when the other anon is the one who brought up "making the world a better place" to begin with.
>>18386095is this AI?
>>18386666>That would be the industrial revolutionsame thing
>>18386087>>Makes intelligent people stop breedingChristianity makes intelligent people feed idiots.
>>18386696Prior to the mid 20th-century Europe had a larger share of the world's population than Africa.
>>18386325>Knowing that God loves you and everything is going along his perfect plan is enough to keep you going, while the atheist gets overwhelmed and commits suicide. Also you are going to hellSounds like>Just believe in this jew on a stick I say is God or... you're going to le lava pits! Enjoy Hell!To normal people
>>18386696>ugh these disgusting idiots, I’m so much better than them AAAAAHHHH IT BURNS AAHHHH
>>18386638>muh Christianity invented morality.It didn’t. Anything good about Christianity are already widely-agreed in every single non-Christian society that has ever existed. Things such as “thou shalt not kill” and “thou shalt not steal” are quite literally the basic laws of every society that has ever existed.
>>18386726>>18386638As far as I’m aware, the only time murder was ever legal in any society was during a brief period in early Soviet Russia and only because the Bolsheviks were setting up the new government and in the process axed the old Tsarist penal code which for a time had the side effect of legalizing everything including murder, keep in mind those things were quickly recriminalized.
>>18386726True, morality comes from the Christian God, not from Christianity.
>>18386726Where did I say this is about Christianity? You won't find that in my post. I said "no morality without God". It's secularism which is the enemy, not a rival religion.
>>18386733Cool sky daddy fairy tale, bro.
>>18386743
>>18386745A skydaddy believer implying others are cringe?? I'm shocked!!
>>18386095The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.
>>18386100>>How does religion actually prevent any of thee things though?It doesn't. Look at the muslim countries, they are declining fast, too.
>>18386687>I didn't bring it up, h-he did!shiggy diggyYou were crying like a little baby about how the mean autistic atheists are ruining "the world".
>>18386100>How does religion actually prevent any of thee things though?Religion is a preservation of Code. Like spiritual DNA. It prevents things that are bad for the egregore, and it puts more emphasis on the culture, instead of the individual. Individuals are secular( temporary), and their will is not always in alignment with the egregore. When selfishness is prioritized over the culture, the culture degenerates. This might not effect the current generation, which is looking out for itself, but the secular world view, by definition, does not care about its children, and so the culture degenerates. This is the child sacrifice described as the result of the secular world view.All things are possible, but not all things are selected. Jesus is the material and spiritual product of the selector. Whether you believe that the selector is natural, or supernatural, a selection is being made, and Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. You will know the selector by the selections that have been made.I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
>>18386087It looks like a chart from some 1980s textbook.
>>18386812>Religion is a preservation of Code. Like spiritual DNA.You mean religion is a meme.
>>18386782Except in Japan
>>18386827In a way, yes. There are genes, memes, and some would say temes. Religion is an interesting word with greek phonetics tied to speaking, reasoning, and assembling into action. The meanings of words change over time, which is what false prophets (things prophessed) are. There are corrupted meanings (fallen angels and messengers). Satan is the privation of meaning. Satan is the opposite intention of what was praised at some point in time. Words like cleave, holy, and awful (full of awe is now bad? Why?) can have meanings that change based on various interpretations. The code can not be processed without a spirit to judge the true meaning in a present context. The judge of good and evil is in us. Some are secular, and judge according to their own personal and temporary gains. Others judge the nomenclature from the perspective of the culture/egregore, and focus on long lasting impacts that go beyond the life of the individual.
>>18386812>You will know the selector by the selections that have been madeWhat did the selector mean by this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin-type_ichthyosis
>>18386864This is day one.You be the judge. All things are possible. Here is an option. Do you want this? Yes or no? God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.There needs to be something for the selector to make a selection. Here is the chaotic, uncaring darkness that the spirit is hovering over as reality generates on day one.I will not tell you by what authority I do these thingsBut I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to fix problems.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, and do something, if you want to make things better."The kingdom of your moral framework is in the hands of (you).
>>18386866Why didn't the Son of Man fix harlequin babies yet?
>>18386545Also Burgerstan is one of the most religious places on Earth and whole America taking antidepressants.
>>18386545>keeps invoking the czech republic in every single threadStil lower TFR than the US. The American heartland has a particularly bad case of suicides due to all the drugs being dumped there.
>>18386888I'm bringing it up because I'm Czech. Why wouldn't I?If you unironically think burgerland is less fucked than the Czech Republic, you're straight up insane.
>>18386897Your country is part of a collection of vassals client states dependent on America carrying your defense which allows you to provide your precious healthcare and welfare services. And yes, TFR is an important metric. Korea has high standards of living but 0.5 TFR so anyone advocating for following "the Korean model" is sorely mistaken.
>>18386903Our fertility rate is low because housing prices are ridiculous and we're cynicismaxxing due to four decades of commie rule. Meanwhile your country's fertility rate is being carried by imported latinx studs.Nice try moving the goalposts though, it's always funny when most of the metrics you listed suddenly don't matter.
>>18386908>imported latinx studsOf course it's a cuckposter, but I shouldn't be surprised at this coming from one of the countries with the most porn actresses per capita. Btw the non-hispanic white TFR in America is still higher than the Czech Republic's and is actually higher than black TFR, so I wouldn't laugh too much about it.
>>18386914I'm esl. I googled what you call a breeding animal, opened a wikipedia article, saw that "stud" refers to both sexes and used it in my post. It's nice to see that the American mind always defaults to interracial cuckoldry though. Also nice to see that you've dropped all other criteria and reduced your religion to a fertility cult.
>>18386918>I'm esl. I googled what you call a breeding animal, opened a wikipedia article, saw that "stud" refers to both sexes and used it in my postThis is probably the funniest cope i've read, thanks for the laughs
>>18386873Medicine, which is a child of mankind, hasn't cured it because it's a deep genetic issue and extremely rare (making large-scale research funding/trials difficult), and theologically many would say the time for total healing of every affliction hasn't arrived yet according to the biblical nomenclature and narrative.
>>18386921It's literally true. I was thinking what the word is for breeding animals. The only thing that came to mind was stud, but then I looked at the wiki article and saw that it's used for both males and females.Who on earth actually thinks American fertility rates are solely propped up by male Mexicans? I bet the mixed race couples that include one latinx individual have lower fertility rates than latinx + latinx.But yeah you're an American so interracial cuckoldry is always on your mind.
>>18386937This guy wrote>your country's fertility rate is being carried by imported latinx studsAnd thinks he can walk it back
>>18386958I literally looked at a wikipedia article specifically so that I'd be using a unisex word because I know you people are obsessed with interracial cuckoldry. Then you go and claim interracial cuckoldry anyway. Amazing. This brings to mind another important point. Atheism is often correlated with the criteria you initially posted because it's correlated with American influence. The problem isn't atheism, it's you.
>>18386873>if God real why evil exist?What a zinger you really got him there
>>18386990Who said anything about evil?
>>18386995Christcucks got BTFO so hard by Epicurus they now think every objection to intelligent design is based on the problem of evil
>>18386995You did. You said that harlequin babies should not exist. You have made a judgment that its existence is "evil". You want to know why our moral framework "God" has not fixed it yet. The answer is this.I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get off your ass and go do something about it".
The infinite vastness of the universe was made so one single planet could have a bunch of retards farting in a church bench. True, mankind has only seen a tiny speck of dust in an endless sea of sand. But we're alone and in this life you need only eat a cracker and accept some jew
>>18386716Because that’s what it is, they’ve been conditioned into believing that they are in it because YHWH loves them instead of what it actually is, intellectual autofellation to cope with to a shitty world. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, depending on the personality type.Also Christianity and Islam were made entirely to cope with God not choosing them over Hebrews, literally the equivalent of all the third starter Pokemon no one wanted coming together to act as their own trainer.
>>18386087Atheists are subhuman and insufferable pseudo-intellectual vaccinated faggot vermin, worse than Christians.
>>18387158Trvke, troon-enablers as well.
>>18387158>kindest, god fearing, turn-the-other-cheek christcuck on /his/
>>18386087I'm sure this study was very rigorous.
Wow, this all sounds really bad! I don't wanna be an atheist!How to do I fix this?
>>18387234>just accept sodomizers bro
>>18387234>worse than Christiansreading comprehension issue
>>18387273I get that Christians hate each other but you should show some love to Catholics.
>>18387124>You said that harlequin babies should not exist. You have made a judgment that its existence is "evil". You want to know why our moral framework "God" has not fixed it yet.None of that is in my posts.
Christard zoomers pretending to be intellectuals again?
Atheist pseuds pretending to be rational again?
>>18387357I don't think you want them to exist. I'm not sure why you are denying your opinion, but whatever.
>>18387690I only asked you what the "selector" meant by harlequin babies, because that doesn't look like something that's "selected" for. The rest was all you struggling to make sense of your own worldview.
>>18386087>Skyrockets suicidesA higher suicide rate is a good thing. Religious people who hate their lives are willingly torturing themselves for decades because they believe in a hell that doesn't actually exist. Making it as easy as possible to kill yourself might actually create a utopia, since all the unhappiest people would remove themselves from the gene pool.>Makes intelligent people stop breedingThis is because we gave women rights. If men collectively decided to get their balls back and take women's rights away, atheist fertility would be much higher. Women are the bottleneck of fertility rates.>Destroys all transcendental human goals and values and validates all degenerate behaviour All morality can be reduced to pleasure=good, suffering=bad. It really is that simple.
>>18386327>Make the world a better placeUnfortunately a lot of donations go to Africa, the real plague
>>18387767>A higher suicide rate is a good thing.Stopped reading there. Congratulations. This is probably the dumbest post in this thread by far. You pseuds are so funny, you even brought that little table that adds nothing to your point to make you look smarter I guess?
>>18386100>How does religion actually prevent any of thee things though?It literally doesn't. In fact, one could argue our modern secular societies are ultimately a consequence of religion anyways
>>18387782>Stopped reading there.So you admit that you didn't even bother to consider my arguments. And you call me the retard.
>>18387840>suicide is good>happiness is genetic>women would fuck my atheist ass if l we remove their rights>pleasure chasing (aka hedonism) is the ultimate moral compassI did end up reading it afterwards for a good laugh.
>>18387850So do you have any actual arguments or evidence against any of these statements? Or do you just reject them because they hurt your feelings like a triggered tumblrina?
>>18387855Why would killing yourself be good? Are you canadian? Also, what makes you think happiness is genetic? And yeah, fertility would rise if women were denied rights, you simply rape them. And if pleasure seeking is the ultimate goal, then why not do hard drugs all day long, since pleasure = good?
>>18387896NTA but I think his argument is that suicidal tendencies are genetic, and allowing people to kill themselves would naturally remove them from the gene pool, thus eventually reducing suicide rates overall.
>>18387896>Why would killing yourself be good?Because some people are living objectively horrible lives. Just because you personally enjoy your life doesn't mean that everyone does. If your life sucks with no end in sight, killing yourself objectively would end your suffering.>Also, what makes you think happiness is genetic?Because this is something that is scientifically documented to be true. They've even identified specific genes associated with happiness levels, like the serotonin transporter gene and oxytocin receptor gene. There's even a woman named Jo Cameron with a genetic mutation that makes her virtually immune to physical and psychological pain. There's also a phenomenon called the hedonic treadmill where people generally return to a baseline state of happiness regardless of life circumstances. How much more evidence do you need?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Cameronhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill>And if pleasure seeking is the ultimate goal, then why not do hard drugs all day long, since pleasure = good?Because I'm actually capable of thinking long term. Getting addicted to drugs would ruin my life in the long run and potentially land me in jail. The only people who unironically think hard drugs = more pleasure are niggers with no concept of the future.
>>18387913>Because some people are living objectively horrible lives. Just because you personally enjoy your life doesn't mean that everyone does. If your life sucks with no end in sight, killing yourself objectively would end your suffering.Being suicidal isn't the same as being depressed. You can be depressed without being suicidal, and you can be suicidal without being depressed, which is most commonly seen as a side effect of certain drugs. It's a distinct form of mental illness. All the homeless tent dwellers on the sidewalk may be depressed but they're probably not ready to kill themselves.
>>18387915And a lot of these "depressed but not suicidal" people are probably just fooling themselves. If they are objectively miserable but don't want to die, their reasons for wanting to stay alive are probably some combination of A) fear of hell, B) guilt tripping, and C) instinctive fear of death. A and B are a direct result of religion.
>>18386087Christians don't have any "transcendental goals" except sitting around waiting to die so they can go to heaven.
>>18386638>>18387774I don't agree that Africans make the world a worse place, and hope that continent can pull itself out of its constant wars and foreign exploitation.However, as a factual matter, aid to Africa is dominated by Christian charities.
>>18387942Africans are genertically retarded. It's the only reason their birthrates are up, because they're impulsive and too stupid to think about how they're going to feed any kids before they stick their cock in someone. They live entirely in the present with no consideration for the future at all.
>>18387937If getting to heaven is so important, why don't most of them study the Bible extremely diligently? Why are they such massive hypocrites? Do they even actually believe their bullshit?
>>18387950Of course not. Most "Christians" live their entire life through a secular lens. Their religiosity is purely performative.
>>18387950You'd also think they'd be happy as funerals since either the person has gone to heaven and is now better off, or was evil and has gone to hell. So either way they shouldn't be crying at a funeral.
>>18387234He’s right though
>>18387959>So either way they shouldn't be crying at a funeral.
>>18387958The way to life is narrow and very few people find it. But that doesn't mean that people should give up on looking for the path; just the desire itself is worth it.
>>18386087My christcuck brother killed himself and I am at absolute peace understanding how the universe works through actual observable evidence.Get fucked, loser.
>>18387944Nah it's just the demographic transition, other continents had it tooAlso, atheists have supplied billions of condoms to Africa, while Christians frequently oppose sharing information about abortion and contraception.
>>18387944wignat subhuman
>>18387999cope and seethe
>>18387944Yeah, and their children are going to inherit the earth while you exit the gene pool lol. So who is the retard now? Them or you who failed to adapt?
>>18387981If you really believe they're in a better place you shouldn't be crying.
>>18388028They'll have a mass die off once they stop getting gibs from the west.
Imagine simping for Africa. See >>18386715 just stop giving them free shit and their fertility will plummet.
>>18388162Shouldnt you be saying "Oh my Science!" instead of "Oh my God!" since you dont believe in God, hm?
>>18386095> Ok now look at this video. I bet you feel really stupid now huh?
>>18387999>actual observable evidence
>>18388539I got a wikipedia link toohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus
>>18388524Saying 'Oh my God' is considered blasphemous to Christians, so it makes more sense of an atheist to say it than a christian.
>>18388539That's essentially how most christians here argue.
>>18388628papists will defend this
>>18386100God didn't call us to be without sympathy for the suffering
>>18388539fuck off chud
>>18386087>There is literally nothing more prone to collapse than atheist societyLet's review the scoreboard:>Collapsed Atheist Societies: 1 (the USSR)>Collapsed Theistic Societies: Literally thousandsI dunno anon, so far Atheism has a better track record than religion does all things considered
>>18388628Every member of the church should read the Liber Gomorrhianus.
>>18386105do you actually belive that anon , can I ask why in a very passionate way.I am not OP, but I need all the usefull and good ideas to inspire people and put them foward , filled with dreams.can your eurpean polytheism do that , if so please bring it foward.
>>18388777Trips of truth.
Atheism became popular because of the logical contradictions and dogmatic nature of Abrahamic religions while offering very little that isn't already part of general western morality.It is true that without metaphysics and spirituality people are subjective to moral degeneracy but the major Abrahamic religions became inadaquate to fill this space. Once worldviews that can't be shattered with a single argument and don't require you to stop asking questions such as Neo-Platonism, Hermeticism and Gnosticism gain enough popularity, (it is already happening) the damage done by materialism and nihilism will be fixed.
Atheism is really making people seethe lately, but that still won't make me believe your bullshit religious claims.
I'm an atheist but I LARP as a Tradcath on /his/
>>18388766dumb frog poster
