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>1876
>abolish the senate
what the fuck were retards thinking?
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BASED
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>>18386523
>1893 - Renaming this nation the "United States of the Earth"
lmao
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>>18386524
you mean 1894, 1912, 1914, 1947 and 1948
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>>18386523
>1938
You think by that point they would have already figured out why this didn't work.
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>>18386523
First of all the 14th amendment needs to be abolished. Enshrining equality under the law is a retarded idea and allows judges to interpret it any evil way they desire as we've seen time and time again.
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>>18386936
the 14th is fine, otherwise states don't have to follow the Bill of Rights and could torture you on the rack for believing the wrong religion or something like that.
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>>18386942
No, make an amendment that the bill of rights applies to states, but never ever enshrine equality under the law. That's how you get subversive court fiat.
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In the 1820s it was proposed that you could not have two consecutive presidents from the same state as a reaction against the Virginia dynasty.
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>>18386927
I think the prohibition had just ended at that point
>>18386936
we need incorporation because a bunch of states are very gay
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>>18387110
>we need incorporation because a bunch of states are very gay
The South being a particular offender.
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>>18386950
It's kind of funny, they were 4 of the first 5 and then tyler only because he was VP and the president died, and then Wilson and then never again.
although I guess wilson lived in a bunch of places
>>18387116
literally just blue states. states like ny, virginia, nj, california and mass are the only states denying Americans their rights
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>>18387116
Florida loves devising new and convoluted legal theories until they're appealed and the courts shoot them down.
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>>18386523
Nothing wrong with 1876, 1916, 1948, or 1971
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>>18386523
>1916
An early draft of the Constitution had the phrase "Only Congress shall have the power to make war." This was changed in the finished version to "declare war" as it was decided the president must have the authority to command the armed forces in wartime without interference.
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>>18387123
see>>18387119
you have hawaii saying "the spirit of aloha" supersedes the constitution and then quoting the fucking wire in a legal decision. you also had NY pass a law that the scouts literally told them not to pass and then the ny courts said that the scotus shouldn't take up the case because it needs to "percolate through the lower courts more"
and you have all of the weird and retarded legal theories about how
>x isn't a core 2A right so I can ignore the bruen test/standard that explicitly says the state needs to defend the law
they also keep misquoting the miller case from the 1930s. I think it's from miller and didn't originate in heller but the actual quote is
>Dangerous AND unusual
and they keep misquoting it as
>Dangerous OR unusual
because that's a much lower standard
>>18387138
getting rid of the senate would suck. we would basically be shitty ass france without the senate to moderate the house. idk how you define the 1971 thing. do you have to ban all technology?
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>>18387144
that was just a practical thing since congress didn't meet up that often in the old days. they used to do weird shit where they wouldn't even show up until december and then work like december to march or something odd. like they would get elected and then not show up for basically a whole calendar year.
if you read the constitution the congress and not the president has the power to call up the militia, but by fucking january of 1792, less than 3 years after the constitution was ratified, congress passed the first in a series of laws that basically completely delegated all of the militia powers to the president.
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>>18386523
they weren't retarded. the senate is one of the most egregiously anti-democratic institutions in the US, second only to the electoral college.
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>>18387206
>1876
You will remember that this was before the 17th Amendment back when Senators were elected by state legislators.
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>>18387206
The senate and the EC are the two most democatic parts of the government. they ensure All Americans have an equal voice in the government and instead of the big states/cities controlling the government and disenfranchising everyone else. Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964) ended democracy in states with large cities by mandating that their legislature seats represent an equal number of people. as a result states like NY or IL no longer have democracy as anyone living outside of chicago or NYC no longer has any say in the government
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>>18387214
that was unironically based. the only issue is that senators were buying senate seats. granted they are buying senate seats now. I'm pretty sure frogland's senate works the same way where local governments pick their senators
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>>18387230
The push for direct election of Senators was mounted by progressives who charged that the Senate was a millionaires' club not accountable to the people.
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>>18387225
>they ensure All Americans have an equal voice
except they don't. instead of the "big states/cities controlling the government and disenfranchising everyone else", the Senate and EC ensure it swings in the exact opposite direction, letting rural retards ruler over everyone else.
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>>18387238
Back at the time the 17th Amendment was passed, they must have particularly referred to the notorious Rhode Island Senator Nelson Aldrich, the namesake of the infamous tariff bill that made Taft a one term president.
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>>18387238
oh? I saw political cartoons that implied they were literally bribing state legislatures for senate seats
>>18387241
>except they don't
they do. countries with a parliament like canada or england have worse representation than the US.
>instead of the "big states/cities controlling the government and disenfranchising everyone else", the Senate and EC ensure it swings in the exact opposite direction, letting rural retards ruler over everyone else.
this is based and democratic.
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>>18387206
The Senate is far worse than the EC. Instead of a presidential vote from North Dakota being worth roughly 1.2x much as one from California, a senate vote from ND is worth 52x as much as a Californian's vote. Also fucking everything has to go through the senate. The house might as well be fucking worthless because ultimately the Senate has to approve of everything they send through. The Senate and how easy it is for minoritarian interests to veto anything they don't like is why the legislative branch is so dysfunctional and why everything is just done through executive orders and the supreme court now.
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>>18387262
>>18387250
This was the classic bad example. Payne-Aldrich and Smoot-Hawley during passage through the Senate got log rolled by lobbyists who tacked a raft of tariff increases onto them so the bills ended up being complete shitfests far beyond what the original draft in the House was.
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>>18387256
>this is based and democratic
kys Wyoming faggot
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>>18387262
>Instead of a presidential vote from North Dakota being worth roughly 1.2x much as one from California, a senate vote from ND is worth 52x as much as a Californian's vote.
that's mega based. california shouldn't get any votes. if anything they should eliminate the house
the virgnia plan of 1787 was ASS. the articles of confederation had a better system. 1 state 1 vote.
> Also fucking everything has to go through the senate. The house might as well be fucking worthless because ultimately the Senate has to approve of everything they send through. The Senate and how easy it is for minoritarian interests to veto anything they don't like is why the legislative branch is so dysfunctional
feature, not a bug
>>18387272
fuck off comiefornia homo. the virginia plan was rejected because it's gay and undemocratic. we need an Amendment to undo Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964) and ensure equal representation of all people
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>>18387278
You're retarded and the only reason you support the Senate and EC is because they give you power over the rest of us, you power-tripping leech. Don't pretend to give a shit about democracy.
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>>18387294
it ensures equal representation. my state got fucked by Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964) and now there is no representation for normal people in my state. cities just do unconstitutional actions like trying to ban guns
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>>18386523
>1894
VGH
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US senate should be

>1 chosen by the state governor
>1 chosen by the state legislature
>1 chosen by direct election
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>>18387528
I wonder how much that would affect the balance of power in the senate.
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>Democracy
>Wanting mob rule as your form of government
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>>18387206
The Senate is an archaic remnant of the nation originally being a loose alliance of de-facto independent countries, one of which (Virginia) had as much population as the 2nd and 3rd combined, and more than the entire bottom 6 combined. The Senate was a compromise to assure the other states that by joining a stronger more centralized Federal Government, that the they would not reduced to vassals of some kind of "Greater Virginia". While this compromise might have worked in getting everyone to sign on, it proved short sighted, as not only did Virginia quickly lose it's lead in population, but no single state replaced it in having such a one-sided lead over other states in population. While the states gradually ceased to be truly sovereign, and cultural and economic ties became national with no basis on state borders.
Thus, bereft of it's original purpose, the Senate has basically functioned as a tool for big businesses and foreign funders like AIPAC to completely control the government through the ease of buying singular senate races in the multitude of underpopulated western states. They function in the same way as the "Rotten Boroughs" of pre 1832 Britain.
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>>18386523
Someone did not know what the word alienable meant.

Still funny to see the reconstruction amendments could have been even worse
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>>18387658
the senate ensures all Americans have equal representation in the government. you can see what happens without a senate in england, canada and individual states because state senates got banned in 1964 and they're now just second upper houses of representatives.
cities get in power and pass anti human rights tyranny.
cities have never been good at producing good politicians, see tamniny hall and all the corruption NY historically had and how they shipped out Teddy Roosevelt twice for being anti corruption
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>>18386936
>Enshrining equality under the law is a retarded idea
You're right, we should restore the British monarchy and aristocracy so your peasant ass gets molested by Sir Chaptingtonnigelsworth
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>>18387225
They quite literally do the opposite, they ensure many Americans matter less than others electorally.
10,000 jackasses in Pennsylvania or Ohio get to decide if Israel (interchangeable term for USA these days) nukes Iran or not next election, that's the system we live in.
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>>18387758
post gunz, you nonAmerican thirdie.
we have seen what happens without a senate. cities like chicago, NYC, Seattle and NOVA pass extremely unpopular human rights denying and unconstitutional gun laws state wide and none of the actual humans in the state have any representation in government to stop it
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>>18387751
The American President had more power than the British monarch since day 1 you sperg
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>>18387225
This is just affirmative action.
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>>18387278
>feature, not a bug
Empowering the executive branch is a bug and is the worst thing that ever happened to America.
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>>18387587
When has the majority of the nation ever wanted something terrible that a wise minority prevented?
Literally never happened.
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>>18386936
>Enshrining equality under the law
everyone American needs to be an equal. Anyone less than equal needs to be exterminated. I Will not allow you to breed your race of vermin.
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>>18388222
no he doesn't you fucking retard. the bong king can dissolve the parliament and he owns the bong subjects as chattel slaves
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>>18388340
no it isn't. it's not race based
>>18388343
congress is the one that did that. that has nothing to do with the filibuster. Congress keeps creating federal departments and then letting the federal departments write their own laws and regulate themselves see the Chevron deference from 1984.
Again, this has been happening since 1792. The constitution gave congress the power to call up and use the militia and they delegated it to the president.
the pennies thing is a recent example. Congress has the power to tell the treasury department how many coins to mint. But they didn't they just wrote
>however many the secretary of the treasury deems necessary. That's why the president was able to end the production of pennies via an EO, because he said the necessary number was 0. Most federal agencies are operating under these retarded rules where congress delegated lawmaking power
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>>18388347
>When has the majority of the nation ever wanted something terrible that a wise minority prevented?
assault weapons bans, multiple times.
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1916 is based and should happen.
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>>18386523
>1916 - all acts of war should be put to a national vote
>1948 - the right of citizens to segregate themselves from others

Common sense amendments that should have been adopted.
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>>18388519
Affirmative Action was never just racial.
You're cheering on for AA for hicks.
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>>18389032
aa was always only ever racial and for roasities.
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>>18388957
I remember being 15
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>>18386523
1876
1912
1916
1933
1938
1947
1848

All of these are complete sensible things
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>>18389277
abolishing the senate isn't sensible



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