>God is too stupid to see through this "loophole" I found
>btw “turn the other cheek” was actually a bushido warrior code daring your opponent to strike you, and when Jesus said to “love thy neighbor “, he meant your exclusively your race.
>>18387236This is for people to whom God is mere culture but not someone they personally know.
I don't judge Jewish people for coming up with this stuff
>>18387236As a reform jew, I agree it's stupid nonsense that defeats the purpose of the sabbath. The sabbath was made for the benefit of man, not the other way around.
Hassidics think if you look at porn with a blanket over your head, then YHWH can't see what you're doing.
>>18387236I don't even get how this works and how it counts as a loophole The wire is a ridiculous stretch but easy to understand, but this? I don't get this.
It might go against the. spirit of the rule but not the rule itself.
>>18387869are they literally all just rich children?
>>18387882Do you think an all-seeing all-knowing being cares more about the spirit or the technical?I'm highly doubtful such a being that judges its creations would be impressed by mischievous gaming of the system.
>>18387891Just ask yourself>If a Pajeet believed in the Torah how would he act? Acts like a polytheist, but isn't. Claims to be chaste, but isn't. Claims to love justice, but finds loopholes. Says he cares about equity, but scrapes for every penny to hoard.
>>18387236God appreciates chutzpah. He only gave the Jews a bunch of arbitrary rules to see how clever they could be at getting around them.
>>18387930The entire Hebrew Bible is a condemnation of this way of thinking.
>>18387935The chutzpah wouldn't be authentic if it weren't.
>>18387943(This is why Christians are God's favourite, by the way. The apostle Paul was the culmination of chutzpah for all who believed in him.)
>>18387946>>18387943>Here are some rules to make your life better and community safer>"Fuck you, we're going to ruin ourselves because we hate doing the right thing!">Gosh, what a clever people. I sure love telling people how to make their lives better and they find ways to do the exact opposite. That's the whole purpose of my project here on Earth!
>>18387879Well the basic idea is you aren't allowed to do any 'work' in the same way that God didn't do any work on day 7. But the things God created on previous days were doing stuff independently on day 7.So then the idea is you just set it up on day 6 to do what you want on day 7.
>>18387236Imagine trying to explain why this thing exists to an alien
>>18387960>they actually fell for that prank? holy shit. glorp, get in here!
>>18387960Shabbat lamps look kinda like sci fi alien lamps
>>18387960I think aliens would probably know what religion is anon, it wouldn't really take much to explain this shit to them
>>18387236This thing in specific has caused a lot of debate among orthodox Jews, actually. That said, I don't see how their work-arounds to the technical limitations imposed by Sabbat (limitations that aren't in the text of the laws btw, but are instead derived from it through reasoning) is 'tricking god'. Which is a dumb misconception, anyway. The orthodox Jews start from the assumption that the law god gave is perfect and that it has within itself all the things necessary for a correct interpretation. >>18387891Hassidics are literally the poorest Jews on average though. They just get support from the few super rich ones who own the real estate and shit.
This is why Jews are successful and simultaneously also hated by everyone. They see a situation and always try to find ways to find workarounds or loopholes. This leads to both innovation and psychopathic behavior.
>>18388014>The orthodox Jews start from the assumption that the law god gave is perfectfor the goyim this would be better summarized as follows: jews do not believe in a 'spirit of law' distinct from the 'letter of law', since otherwise they'd have to assume YHWH erred when giving the letter. all that shit about eruvs and shabbath elevators aren't tricking god but figuring out what he wanted, only with increasingly greater precision.
>>18387236Is a judge stupid because a lawyer argues points if law in a certain way?
>>18387263>only time Jesus mentions race it's to say it doesn't matter
>>18387952this tracks if you interpret the old testament YWHW to be the demiurge
>>18388014>>18389040>for the goyim this would be better summarized as follows: jews do not believe in a 'spirit of law' distinct from the 'letter of law', since otherwise they'd have to assume YHWH erred when giving the letter. all that shit about eruvs and shabbath elevators aren't tricking god but figuring out what he wanted, only with increasingly greater precision.no because what's actually going on is they change their mind over time about what the letter of the law is and how to interpret it according to the spirit of the law, except unlike christians who do this via the holy spirit and revelations and such while admitting the text is fallible, the jews just secretly pretend the new interpretation of the letter of the law according to the spirit of the law has always been that way the whole time.I don't know much about muslim theology but it seems like they do the same thing as jews. Pretending the book is infalible while tacitly updating their interpretation of it to societal norms.
>>18389090>unlike christians who do this via the holy spiritah, yes, yes, the great and noble christians who update their position based on hallucinations and discussions with invisible friends.there is no example of jews changing the letter of the law. they probably added to it once, with the fabrication of Deuteronomy. they occasionally change their interpretation of it, which is the task of the learned ones. changes like this usually involve adding details, but there were cases like abandoning/outlawing polygamy and relaxing the rules re: circumcision to protect hemophiliacs, when they changed the traditional interpretation, but never the letter.
>>18387891Hasids are poorfags
>>18389105that's not what I said. they don't change the letter of the law, read it again.as for the Christians, I'm just describing what they do.
Jews are so cartoonishly evil holy fucking shit. Imagine having your God be the most popular God on the planet, a God that loved you more than any other race and even tells you goyim are animals born to serve you.And despite having such preferential treatment they still hate God and try to trick him. This is insane, cartoon villain type of pure evil.
>>18387955So it's literally just a timer switch? That's it? Why even market it as a kosher switch if it's just a timer lol
>>18387960Not that hard. These people believe their God created the world over 6 days and he didn't do any work during the 7th day, so they do the same. Since lighting a switch on amounts to lighting a small fire, it is work.
>>18389615This
>>18387236I do have to question the logic in worshiping a being so easily tricked. Seems odd.
don't they have sabbat goyim who turn on the light etc? fucking retarded being a slave to your religion this much it makes muslims look good
>>18387236>>God is too stupid to see through this "loophole" I foundYou don't see pilpul logic.For them if God didn't want them to use such switch he worded prohibition banned it. If God left loophole he wills it, its up to believers to find it. There is some logic behind that.
>>18387236"Retarded laws don't exist if I read it using grade school tier literalism."
>>18387879You can't make fire on Sabbath.Turning on light is making fire.Sabbath switch has quantum LED thst sends photons periodically, or don't send its quantum randomizer (white noise random numbers generator). no man can say when this LED will send photon, it's pure random like dice roll. Theoretically it may not send photon until death of the universe. When swrich is moved it removes obstacle form photon ways, if photon is sent it reaches receiver and activates light. But when switch is moved there is no photon (and nobody can say that photon ever would be) so no interaction with fire, there is no fire when switch block is moved.
>>18389615>And despite having such preferential treatment they still hate God and try to trick him.Logic is that's not tricking the God, it's listening to him carefully. The God is omnipotent and surely he could see loopholes exploitations, if he let them be it's his will.
>>18390419Isn't it quite pitiful in a sense? They are trying to make sense of a text that was written by multiple people throughout multiple centuries and they have to fit in their worldview that the book his a whole and was written by a shepherd who didn't exist and that the law of it - which is wack at best - comes from an almighty god.
>>18390417The rabbis are still split on this thing though.
>>18390417The only reason fire couldn't be kindled in the days of ancient Israel was because it required labor to rub sticks together or the usage of rocks and sparks. That was considered work. Now fire is created in a split second by pushing a button, which requires no labor or work at all. It does not break the Sabbath to push a button and lit a fire.
>>18387967>Shabbat lamps look kinda like buttplugsftfy
>>18390413>don't they have sabbat goyim who turn on the light etc? I knew a Puerto Rican guy who was a shabbos goy as a kid for the owner of the sweatshop his mom worked at. Funny thing is they can’t even say “turn on the light, Juan!” but have to go “Oy vey, sure is dark in here!” and hope you get the hint.
>>18389064Jesus never said that. He was a Jewish supremacist. The idea that g*yim were human was completely foreign to him.
>>18390733>Dubs of Satan.You still break the Sabbath if your employees break the Sabbath.
>>18387869Hassidics aren’t even hardline. They’re just intentionally weird.
>>18387263The audacity to redefine neighbor around modern globalization and then make this post
>>18388014>Hassidics are literally the poorest Jews on average though.They're on welfare while they study torah.