This is a popular sentiment, and I get the appeal, but how accurate is it?Let's look at some issues.>divorceconservatives agree with jesus on this one in that it's "le bad", if anything modern conservatives would dislike jesus for being too strict with it but i doubt that would amount to more than a mild frown>warjesus is consistently depicted as being against violence in the synoptics , however in the book of revelation he personally revels and enjoys torturing people who disagree with them. if we take the view of jesus that revelation has, conservatives allign perfectly>treatment of the poorstrong disagree, no matter how you cut it, jesus advocated for helping the downtrodden at a significant cost to yourself, a tax you might even say>abortionnever mentioned specifically, if we take his depiction in matthew as valid, where he says not one word of the law shall be changed or omitted, then a fetus should be considered property without legal personhood and subject to a fine if damaged, far from the modern christian view where it is considered a person even without a brain>homosexualitynever mentioned specifically, if we take matthew's depiction as valid like we did earlier, homosexual men should be killed and lesbians' status is left in limbo as they are never considered to be worth mentioning in all of the bible. i'd say this is more of an agree than a disagree
>>18389850>treatment of foreigners/refugeesif the parable of the good samaritan and the parable of the goats and the sheep are of any indication, Jesus did consider people of every nation to be equally deserving of charity and support. STRONG disagree with conservatives there.>womenunclear, barely touched upon if at all, worth mentioning some of his closest followers are women and they are following him, meaning they left their families or what have you to do so, so it's not a stretch to say he doesn't stand against women having agency, at least not insofar as choosing where to go and when. i'd still call this one inconclusiveDoesn't seem as bad as it would seem, though when it comes to violence we do have to side with revleation for it to make any sense.Have I made any errors? Any issues you'd like to see discussed that I missed?
>>18389850Revelation is a fever dream by a seething Jew hopping up and down in fury at Nero and dreaming up ways hes going to be punished.
>>18389863yes and?
it's a shame he never talked about government really, the ethics are barely applicable on a policy scale
>>18389855I think that the materialism axis is probably the one that would get Jesus most riled up.It’s rather hard to reconcile the hard core of Christianity with endless pursuit of riches without some sort of self deception: either compartmentalization (I want to look/feel like a good Christian so I go to the church every sunday and think about God and Jesus there, but I don’t think about religion when I think about money etc.), or downright insane mental acrobatics like prosperity gospel.
>>18389863The more things change the more they stay the same
>>18389850Jesus would say that he never knew any of the christians that exist. Literally none.Jesus was an Iron Age savage. Saying that we should keep following the kike's Bronze Age laws. He'd say that all the christians would be least in the kingdom of heaven, because they're not following his dad's laws.He wouldn't like the conservative christians. He wouldn't like the liberal christians. None.And the thing is, none of the christians would like him either. They'd call him the most bigotted person ever. Conservative or not. They'd be pulling out their guns to shoot the fucker, because he'd be trying to stone children.
>>18390027If that were the case then he would have reaped the world of his harvest already. He hasn't, because real Christians do exist and they are continuing to spread the gospel to a lost world. Which means you're braindead. :D
>>18390040>If that were the case then he would have reaped the world of his harvest already.Almost as if he doesn't exist
>>18390043Enjoy Hell.
>>18390040What's more likely.There's "true christians that actually follow the laws of the torah".There's no jesus/yhwh/god.Hint: It's the second one, because you sure as shit aren't stoning people who work on the sabbath.Enjoy rotting in the ground, fag.
>>18390047The Sabbath doesn't apply in the New Testament, and it's not a lay person's job to carry out the death penalty. That's the government's job. Good news: Those flames just got hotter. Keep going?
>>18390056Oh. You're not a chrisitan. I'm sorry. I confused you with a christian. You're paulian. You're right, you don't have to follow the torah.Now, if you're a christian, then why do you hate jesus' words and prefer a dud who bumped his head?
>>18390058Keep stoking those flames, rodent. You're so fucked. :D
>>18390065Enjoy Hell anon does NOT employ a trip. False prophet!
>>18390073he namefaged several times before
>>18389850In the pre soap and running water era being a lesbian could be inconceivable and pointless.
>>18390056The God of the old testament is the one who will judge you in the day of judgement.
Lot of effort for bait
>>18389850If Jesus wanted the poor to be helped through taxes why didn't he say so?Ancient Rome had a bread dole. If his intention was a redistributionary state why did Jesus advocate for private charity instead of saying "render unto Caesar more than he asks so Caesar can feed the poor
Jesus wouldve told them that they were disgusting g*yim and that they're anti-semetic if they don't want to die for Israel
You can get a divorce under jewish law.
>>18390674Good boy.
>>18389913What is that map? It's a particularly interesting set of ideologies for one person to hold st once assuming it's not just a fun Alternate History or shitpost and it's actually a guy's ideal
>>18389850It's just something leftist atheists say as some lame attempt at a "gotcha". Ultimately, it's meaningless and worthless and no one should care.THAT SAID. Almost no Christians are actually "Christ-like" and most just wear the religion as a rhetorical battering ram and appeal to authority. They pick things out of the Bible they agree with and tell you that's what God wants, and then ignore all the rest they don't like.So in the end, both groups largely consist of faggots.
Jesus himself specifically stated that divorce is a grave, major sin and never to be permitted. He was very clear on this.Jesus himself never mentioned homosexuality. Not once.Yet Evangelical protestants have divorce after divorce while hating on homosexuals. The woman leading the anti-gay marriage movement in the US has had 3 divorces and is on her 4th marriage and sees no irony in her actions.
>>18391242Did he say anything about raping dogs?This is retarded, he condemned divorce because divorce was permitted under the law. That’s why he commented on it, as a perfection of the law which already existed. He didn’t comment on licking a man’s anus because that issue was sufficiently settled.
>>18391247You're claiming to know Jesus' reasoning which you can't possibly know. You're inventing your own Jesus fan fiction which matches your pre-existing ideological positions just like all Christians do.
>>18389850Christianity is a left-wing Religion but most cons are also left-wing so they would probably like him anyway
>>18391259>most cons are also left-wingElaborate, schizo
>>18391257You brain damaged faggot you included a fucking lie in the three sentences you posted above. It’s pathological with you “theatrical”’types.
>>18389850WTF is that image supposed to convey>conservatives would kill themselves after meeting Jesusor>Jesus/the disciples would lynch modern American conservativesStupid fucking tiktok engagementbait image making me post this
>>18389913>not having the glorious peoples' Jewish Autonomous Oblast as the Jewish homeland
>>18391270The Dunning-Kruger effect at work with you I see. Is that what your fat retarded millionaire American megachurch pastor told you?Or is your stupidity original? Or maybe you are intentionally lying and twisting the Bible to fit your pre-existing ideological hatred of other people. Something Jesus would have despised.Your version of the bible translates it as "sexual immortality". The original word used in the verse is the Greek term Porneia.That word refers specifically to prostitution, adultery, promiscuity. It has no relation to nor does it imply homosexuality, for which there are many ancient greek words, most notably: Arsenokoitai, Malakoi, Kinaidos, Andromanes.Anyone who knows Ancient Greek can clearly identify that verse is nothing to do with homosexuality whatsoever.You are simply either an idiot or a liar, in either case you are desperate to justify an irrational hatred. Which is odd, since Jesus loved everyone.And let us not forget the term you referenced refers to prostitutes - the very people Jesus hung around with and showed his compassion for. By that example the most logical conclusion could only be he would treat homosexuals likewise, isn't it?Your Yankee evangelic beliefs are everything Christ opposed. Just stop it man, it isn't correct nor healthy.
>>18391293How are you actually this dumb? It's clearly stating conservitards would lynch Jesus for being a brown skinned peace loving hippy who hung out with the lowest strata of people in society.
>>18389863No, it's a compilation of Jesus' letters to seven churches praising their faith and asking them to improve on certain things. Yes, Jesus was a Jew, but if that's your only criticism of him, you need to shut the fuck up.
>>18391309I'm not a socialist who invents boogeymen like you are so it didn't come as naturally
>>18391314Must be cool not living in reality huh? Retarded Yankee schizo freak who worships Israel and the capitalist billionaire Epstein class.
>>18391316*yawn*
>>18391316Go fight for Palestine and ack when they throw you off a building for being trans, my man
>>18391307No you stupid boy botherer, here is what you said:> Jesus himself specifically stated that divorce is a grave, major sin and never to be permitted. He was very clear on this.Key point:> never to be permitted.Here is Jesus literally saying >here is an instance in which divorce is permitted. Again, he never mentioned fucking a man’s ass, a donkeys ass, or your mothers ass, because he wasn’t changing anything about that.
>>18389913You are correct, which is why Christians should not be involved in government policy or the military.>“My kingdom does not belong to this world. If my kingdom belonged to this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”
>>18391266Conservatives in Western countries never actually prevent progressives from getting what they want, they just constantly compromise and allow slightly more "moderate" versions of their goals to pass through until the progressives get what they wanted to begin with, just 10-20 years later. Gay marriage is a great example, the whole history of that debate is filled with>Now listen, I'm alright with civil unions, but gay marriage? That's a bridge too far!>Now listen, gay marriage is okay, but the federal government should have nothing to do with it, leave it to the states!and other such compromises which just ended in gay marriage being federally legalized, the thing that the progressives wanted to begin with. This can be done for numerous other issues, see the normalfag GOP in the US and how they handle immigration >Legal immigration is great, this is a nation of immigrants, you're technically an immigrant too! If anything, we need more legal immigration! It's really this ILLEGAL immigration that's bad!etc etc. An opposition group that just allows the movement they oppose to do walk all over them, doing everything they want at a slightly slower pace is effectively a moderate wing of the movement. That's not even getting into how they work within the same mental frameworks as progressives and constantly reinforce their ideas ("Democrats are the real racists") but this reply is already a wall of text and I think you get the idea.
>>18391293He's dressed as Jesus, it's saying conservatives would lynch Jesus if they met him today
>>18391337This must be why we still have prohibition.
>>18389913>Presian Empire
>>18389913>Raj of Loo>Presian Empire>Land of the Shitposting>Cuntlandia
>>18391323(NTA) In Mark 10 as well as 1 Corinthians 7, the prohibition against divorce looks absolute, so that there's no fully approved situation in which it can be done. "Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." "To the married I give this command—not I but the Lord—that the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does separate, let her remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband) and that the husband should not divorce his wife."It's only in Matthew that there seems to be an allowance for it in the case of sexual immorality. Imo this could count as Matthew disagreeing with Mark and Paul, though I guess strictly speaking if you take for granted that they do agree with each other, you could also just say that the Holy Spirit put Matthew in the Bible first so you could learn the exception to the rule so Mark and Paul could save space by excluding it. Or something.
>>18390670How so? There were ancient lesbians.
