Would you rather live in a major mid-late classic period Maya city, or in 1400s Tenochtitlan?
>>18389875My life would suck either way. But I guess if I can be a Tenochtitlan artisan I may have been fine.
>>18389875>would you rather live in a retard society centered entirely around the hijinks of individual inbred divine kings (but at least you get le real tall pyramids you'll never set foot on)>or the society with more advanced agricultural techniques, a more developed economy and technological advancements, and a semblance of social mobility in the form of military service (but you have to watch your country's enemies get brutally killed slightly more often)Damn, what a hard choice...
>>18389875I don't know, which had more booze?
>>18389935But what if you're a guy who finds jungles and red pyramis more comfy than islands and white pyramids?
>>18390041There was barely any jungle left by late classic period Maya, anon.Remember these guys went all Brazil on the jungles around them since the land is absolutely shit for agriculture (jungle) and they had an exploding population (requiring a lot of food, and consistently).
>>18390084They didn't do slash and burn iirc. They used complex irrigation and fertilization techniques.
>>18390088they did a bit of both, but however it happened, the Yucatan did get super deforested
Tenochtitlan for the scenery alone, provided i'm nobility or at least have access to elite spaces like by being a palace servant >>18389935I wouldn't be so sure that Tenochtitlan had better social mobility, the Mexica were quite classist especially later in their history>>18390090>>18390088>>18390084Depends on the area, deforestation might have been a thing in some places but other Mayas used managed agroforestry
Neither.Teotihuacan would have been the best option since commoners lived in bigger palaces than some of the aztec elite.
>>18390119Truewhich paper is the diagram from? Or which conference since it looks like this was from a zoom presentation maybe?
>>18390137This conference by Michael Smithhttps://youtu.be/zDwvq2cPV50?si=tTO16L5tp4f825v_
>>18390119where's the pic from? I want to study mesoamerican palaces
>>18390188lol I didn't read the next reply, but I haven't seen this lecture before and would love any additional recommendations
>>18390189>>18390188Susan Toby Evans has a lot of publications on Mesoamerican palaces, her faculty page has a lot of links to her papers and even full books, but last time I checked a lot of the links had become broken so you'll probably have to rely on the waybackmachineSmith also obviously has a lot of stuff
>>18390192anything recent?
>>18390119People keep saying this but from what I've heard most of these "commoner palaces" in Teotihuacan were more like apartment blocks, with more people per square meter and workshops and businesses inside of them as well as housing
>ESL thread
>>18390198Recent in what sense?
>>18389935I honestly don't know which is which in this situation.
>>18389875The Mexica alliance was way more stable compared to the Maya city states, and the weather is nicer in the highlands.
>>18390245Yes, they were used like apartments, but off the top of my head I'm not sure if they had higher population density then palaces in other Mesoamerican citiesMaybe i'll look into that later
>>18389875Man experiencing the conquest of America from their perspective would be kino.Just imagine it, that's like green skinned men in UFOs colonizing Europe or something.
>>18389875>1400s TenochtitlanHow late in the 1400s Tenochtitlan??
>>18390119iirc, we don't really know fuck all about their society outside of some rudimentary things.
>>18391388some day...
>>18392017what paper is this from?
>>18392204https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ancient-mesoamerica/article/abs/reinterpreting-the-plaza-de-los-glifos-la-ventilla-teotihuacan/55C407A59CAF7D150C168DE655DFABF1
