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Which side in the first US civil war was more justified?
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>first
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A Baptist red leg Slaveocrat was teaching a class on Nathan Bedford Forrest, known ruffian.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Baron Jomini and accept that Bobby Lee was the finest leader of men in all the War of Northern Aggression, even greater than Ulysses!”
At this moment a stout Harvard-educated Yankee lieutenant and syphilis-survivor from Boston with an immaculately-waxed mustache who killed 70 rebels at Devil’s Den and understood that Southerners deserved all the curses and maledictions a people could pour out stood up and held aloft a picture of an African slave.
"To whom does he belong, rebel?”
The yellow dog scoundrel smirked quite slave power’ly and smugly replied “Me, of course.”
”You don’t recollect, then, the legal president of all the Southern states declaring ‘all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State’ are ‘forever free?’”
The rebel was visibly shaken, and dropped his bourbon and copy of Summary of the Art of War. He stormed out of the room crying those expensive Copperhead tears. The same tears the South cried for “state’s rights” as gallant Uncle Cump burned the land’s disgusting wrap-around porches and put its benighted, double-chinned sons to the sword. There is no doubt that at this point our fat planter wished he had been a Unionist and shunned the seduction of slave despotism. He wished so much that he had a ticket for Brazil where he could contract malaria and die, but he himself had pawned it off to pay for a new pair of silk stockings!
The students applauded and all enlisted in the Union Army that day and accepted Abraham Lincoln as their president. A bald eagle named “13th Amendment” flew into the room and perched atop the regimental colors and shed a tear on the chalk board. ”Battle Hymn of the Republic” was sung several times, and Ralph Waldo Emerson himself showed up and converted everyone to Transcendentalism.
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>>18390267
north was the agressor. south just wanted to be left alone.
>inb4 muh fort sumter
north had no rights to continue fort armaments.
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>>18390438
>rebel and secede
>just want to be left alone
Dixiefags are so stupid
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>NOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN [entrenched aristocratic class] CAN'T OVERRULE [the government] THEY NEED TO [make profit]

confederacy was such a LARP
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>>18390727
Yes, secession meant they wanted leave leave the union and do things their own way.
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>>18390438
>south just wanted to be left alone
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>18390438
Forts were federal property, not state property
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Lincoln started the war for the simple fact that the South did not need the North (and indeed would have greatly prospered with out) but the North desperately needed the South. Not only did the North want to continue sharing in the profits of slavery via high tariff rates, money which would go straight to Northern businessmen, but the tariff forced the South to buy products from the North when Southerners would've much preferred cheaper, superior European goods. The whole affair was begun as a giant welfare scheme for Yankee capital, though it eventually morphed into something even more horrific when it became a cult dedicated to the worship of the Negro. Easily the strangest and most inexplicable event of the whole 19th century.
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>>18390330
first post first post
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>>18390438
They had every right to garrison and arm forts on federal land.
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>>18390267
The Union because they won.
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>>18390267
>north wants niggers to live freely in their country
>south wants to force niggers to live in their property
Both sides are completely retarded.
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>>18390438
The south was fighting so rich people could own slaves. They were absolutely in the wrong.
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>>18390267
The South was more justified because they correctly saw they were waning politically.
The North was in fact bringing to heel a free people against their will.
>slaves
Literally non-people
>>18390438
This legalism is nonsense but it is true the North should have withdrawn its soldiers back to an agreed upon border.
>>18390748
Southern taxes and the South didn’t recognize the federal government.
>>18390728
Cope
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>>18390830
It wasn’t federal land. It was disputed land.
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>>18391144
It was so everyone could own slaves. They weren’t in the wrong.
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>>18391167
Nah, it was indisputably US territory.
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>>18390335
>disgusting wrap-around porches
Well bless your heart too.



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