was spain a germanic/austrian colony in the hapsburg era? their core territory and the genetics of their rulers was clearly central europe-pilled
>>18397245Most European countries had a German monarch at some point
>>18397245No, it was a spanish state with a german monarch. No german troops or even officialls went to spain (other way round in fact), no economic dominance existed (in either direction).
>>18397262vassal copeyou were ruled by hated germanicsthen again you're not spanish you're a chicano
>>18397272I'm german you idiot
>>18397272>>18397292Also actual spaniards don't hate germans.
>>18397292>>18397294you're not german and yes they do, /int/, /his/ and sometimes /sp/ have confirmed this
>>18397307>Larpers on 4chan Also believe me or don't.
>>18397313soeren oder ronny?
>>18397318Rechtsextrem, aber westdeutsch. Spaniards are my racial and cultural brethren against the nonwhite menace. And the french, but I repeat myself. (Just kidding. Please don't nuke us.)
>>18397330spain has already fallen, as have wessicuckolds ossi, slavs, and balts are the only people who can save europeyou cannot survive as a rechtsmann in wessiland, you are cut off from your ethnic brethren there
>>18397335Perhaps you're right. It can be hard to admit defeat and retreat to safer pastures.
>>18397358that solidaritatzuschlag or whatever its called and the EU gibs for poland et. all will end up being the greatest investment that germany ever made
>>18397361Will it even matter in the end? Birth rates in eastern europe are atrocious. They need to nuke up and go north korea mode against the west that will try their hardest to muttify them yet.
>>18397364birth rates are terrible everywhere, even in fucking latin america 90% of the population is below replacement. Western europe has lower white birthrates anyway by far, all their metrics are from immigrants and nonwhites
>>18397369Loads of muslims with a remnant of whites to keep it running are still a threat to a shrinking 100% white eastern europe.The good thing is that muslim birth rates are also falling, more so the more civilized they are. Turks are being outbread by arabs and arabs by africans. One can only hope they will remain dumb enough to not be a threat.Maybe if east germany manages to vote AfD and keep itself clean of muslims, I will move there. I hear finding a wife is hard though.
>>18397245I was today years old when I learned that Germans had a Latin American colony of 200 people. I knew of France Antartique but never heard of Little Venice.
>>18397335>balts>saving europethose people forgot how to reproduce
>>18397377I'd love to go East Germany, but the drugs man... Might as well go to Russia for Lebensraum.
>>18397294Until the detestable German marks his territory with the impersonal disdain of a pair of flipflops and a towel.
>>18397262What about the Visigoths?
>>18397262Spain and Portugal both recruited Italian and German engineers, captains and military experts for military technology and miming.Portugal's kings were Capetian from France like the Bourbon.
>>18397255>>18397262>>18397272>>18397292>>18397294And who were in the royal courts? Wouldn't that be the people holding the true power? They had the ability to assassinate or poison the royal at any point in time. History is ruled by groups of people, not monarchs.
>>18397739>Land of the VandalicMoorish woman sure love BWC
>>18397245do y'all know that Spain is popular here in Germany?
>>18397739the visigoths was a territory long preceding the formation of the spanish state, so that's entirely irrelevant to the question
>>18397748IIrc they were mostly Spanish then followed by Germans and Italians in roughly equal parts, but don't quote me on it.>>18397387They had two, technically. But the Hanauisch Indien never actually materialized beyond bankrupting the county.
>>18397245Thinking about countries as we know today in the early modern era is inaccurate, as these types of composite crowns or dynastic unions ,were the collective sum of the various titles and propieties held under a dynasty, that did not have to share the same administration, and in many cases, remained legally separate from one another.So instead of saying that Spain was under Austrian control or viceversa, it would be that the Habsburg dynasty owns the titles of the Crown of Spain and the Archduchy of Austria
>>18397739>Habsburg era
>>18397262When Charles V showed up, he brought his Belgian administrators with him and pissed off the nobles (who later provoked a small civil uprising that got out of hand). They weren't very happy that a guy that didn't speak Spanish came in and displaced them.Later on when he became emperor, they seemed to have settled down and accepted him.
>>18397318>a northern german or an eastern germanWhat about a Sepp or what about a Kevin?
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>>18397245>was spain a germanic/austrian colony in the hapsburg era? their core territory and the genetics of their rulers was clearly central europe-pilled>>18397255>Most European countries had a German monarch at some point>>18397262>No, it was a spanish state with a german monarch.
>>18401250>Spic thinks genetics determines everything
>>18397245Funnily enough, few people know that there was actually a German in settlement program in Spain.Most of the time when you see a European country with a monarch of a different ethnicity, the impact on demographics is minimal if not nonexistent, but in this case there was such a little known program.Now, in all fairness, it was never intended to Germanize the country, it was an initiative for one particular area, but I think the history is fascinating.It was called the “New Populations of Sierra Morena and Andalusia”.If you search that exact phrase, but in Spanish, there’s a Wikipedia article for it as well as many independent sources. I must admit, though, I am deviating from OP’s actual question, because this didn’t occur during the Habsburg Era, but instead much later in the 1780s under the Bourbon dynasty. It settled 6000 of mainly German and Flemish descent in the region. While technically a township and “Mayor’s Office” it was one of the 5 provinces that made up what is today modern Andalusia. Whether the 6000 number is families or total individuals, I do not know.
>>18397245>>18401357https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuevas_Poblaciones_de_Sierra_Morena_y_Andaluc%C3%ADaFor anyone who wants the article
>>18397245>Central Europe-pilledJesus fucking Christ the "chanlingo" here is becoming unbearably retarded. Was it always this fucking bad and I just didn't realize it or what?
>>18401357That's actually really normal for the time. The Russians were doing it, too.
>>18401370Yes, but I feel like far fewer people know about this. I’m interested, though, do you know of any more unique examples?
>>18397245>was spain a germanic/austrian colony in the hapsburg era?NO.>their core territory and the genetics of their rulers was clearly central europe-pilledTHERE IS NO SUCH THING AS «CENTRAL EUROPEAN GENETICS», AND YOU SEEM TO BE BRAINROTTEN.
>>18397744>>18399182Yes. altrough there are spaniards operating in germanic territory like the spanish tercios, much of the administrators and governors of HRE territory (especially netherlands and belgium) are spanirds/portuguese...
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>>18401317The Spanish state didn't resemble Germany in any real fashion. If anything Spain influenced Germany more than Germany influenced Spain.
>>18402618Is that what you mumble to yourself when you serve beer to Hans and Werner? Or does the condor legion need to make another appearance?
>>18397245Well those "Habpsburg" in Spain were already 50% Spanish in the first 2 generations and were like 80-90% Spanish the rest of the time.The real rule was done by the Spanish character descendant of the Catholic Kings and all the credit has to be given to all the brave Spanish soldiers not only in America but also during the Tercios, or in Asia, or in the discovery of what is now the USA.95% of all of that was because of Spaniards big cojones and smartness. This is just in Asia. The name "Pacific Ocean" was given by Spain (Oceano Pacífico).
>>18402566You know, you're not really "anonymous" if all your comments are stylized like that.
>>18402627>Germans are proud that they die for Spain
>>18397245I'm not sayin this man was Hitler...but he did some stuff Adolf would probably have approved.
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>>18403193>Spics clap like seals when forgeiners murder their fellow spics
>>18397245As you have been told already, the Spanish Habsburgs really were just Spaniards, and direct descendants of Isabel of Castile. They only kept their "Habsburg" as surname because Spain also keeps the father's surname as the first one.Because Isabel's husband was a weakling, he never had a strong presence anywhere in Spain and, most specifically, on Charles V/Charles I.Originally, Charles sought to have Germany as the primary core of the empire, but a couple of things changed his mind:1 - He was his granmommies boy. We even still joke about how Charles was just another puppet for Isabel. 2 - Germany could not stop fucking up while Spain started the first global empire right after expelling the moors and the jews and right after cuking France and Italy out of being superpowers.This lead to Charles giving up on his original idea of being a fake German to be a Spanish man.
>>18403193iberigypsies fought like rabig dogs to stop napoleon from deposing the (french) bourbons, i think franco even lamented iberigypsies were worth little more than cannon fodder for whoever ruled over them
>>18403884>Be happy that your side wins a civil warAre Anglos cucks for Frenchmen since the Wars of the Roses just entailed Anglo princes supported by French kings and dukes killing each other?>Louis XI helps Warwick depose Edward IV>Charles the Bold helps Edward IV kill Warwick>Louis XI helps Henry Tudor kill Richard III>>18404029So are we considering any country with a foreign monarch cucks? I guess Anglos, Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Belgians, and Dutch are all cucks.
>>18404039Come on tostiloco, even you know anglos regularly get mocked for having foreigners on the throne
>>18397294>>18397307Spaniard hate the French and the Brits more than the Germans, as far I know.>>18399182>Later on when he became emperor, they seemed to have settled down and accepted him.Because the Spanish (Castilian mostly) nobles forced him into making Toledo his home and his seat of power. That's the reason of why the whole Habsburg Empire was ruled from there and he barely visited other places.
>>18404011You may be confusing Juana la Loca with Isabel here.I wouldn't call Ferdinand of Aragon, the very model of Machiavelli's "The Prince", a weakling.
>>18404630Ferdinand got fucked in the ass by a Dutch cardinal, which is why Aragon whent to Charles.
>>18404641>which is why Aragon whent to CharlesWhat? Aragon went to Charles because he was the heir. There were not other options.
>>18401250Where are you getting 62.5% from? Can't find anything about Philp the Handsome having Spanish ancestry. And this isn't a pure Spanish woman. House of Trastamara was founded by French Burgundians.
>>18404809>House of Trastamara was founded by French Burgundians.You are getting confused by the Portuguese Burgundians, which were actually a French cadet branch based on the Duchy of Burgundy.The Trastamaras were descendants of the Burgundians from the County of Burgundy (House of Ivrea), and those guys were Italians.
>>18403240Hitler hated Spain, though.
It wasn't. First thing, the Habsburgs of this era were genetically and culturally more Spanish than anything else as I demonstrated on picrel They were in fact even more French than GermansSpain also was the core of the empire culturally (Art and litterature), economically (due to the new world) and above all militarilly (the tercios who dominated european battlefields)
>>18397245>was spain a germanic/austrian colony in the hapsburg eraHabsburgs were more international than just being germs.
>>18405672Pic was already posted here >>18401250>>18404809The house of trastamara wasn't funded by Burgundians. The Castillan house of Burgundy was founded by a man who married a woman who was the son of the Spanish king Alfonso VI and a French noblewoman from Burgundy. I know you people like when your women get fucked by swarthier men but please keep your fetishism out of this.By the time the house of trastamara rose they were pretty much fully SpanishPhilip the handsome had recent portuguese ancestry from both his parents.
>>18405681>The Castillan house of Burgundy was founded by a man And that man was from...?
>Pedro >Sucks English dickVS>Enrique >Sucks Breton (French) dickA constant in Spanish history
>>18405730>Sucks Breton (French)Brittany wasn't France at that time.
>>18397272>you were ruled by hated germanicsBut the Germans hates more the Habsburgs than the Spaniards. The proof of this is that there were more anti-Habsburg revolts in the Holy Roman Empire than in Spain.
>>18397748>And who were in the royal courts?Jews, germans and jews
>>18397739>Visigothsbalto-slavic
>>18406263That's because Iberians are slaves
>>18405728Burgundy but since his children were with a mixed woman it's irrelevant
>>18405672>They were in fact even more French than GermansThey were more Flemish, which was a totally different thing at that time.
>>18407485No. They were Francophone, not Dutch speaking and came from the Burgundian french nobility.
