Who would /his/ have supported?
Harold, of course. Best placed to ensure the survival and contiuity of Anglo-Saxon England.
William, because Bretons are always on the right side of justice no matter what. It's uncanny.
>>18398848William. But he should had gone WAY much heavier on either celticize or latinized the angl*ids with mass immigration of either french, or breton/welsh colonists. We would live on a much better world
>>18398865They're all Germans you sperg.
>>18398858Breton? Isn't Brittany farther than actual Normandy?
>>18398848Anyways, I would've supported Harald. We might have had a norwegian british kingdom nowadays
>>18398848Bledyn ap Cynfyn
Edgar Aetheling had the most legitimate claim to the throne. But if we're talking about the main three competitors, then I support William all the way. The Godwinsons were parasites in England and needed to be purged.
Harold > Harald >>>>> William >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edgar "just fuck my shit up Atheling
>>18398848We have to gauge their qualities. Godwinson wins on Sovl. Hardrada wins on Vril, drip and almost everything else that is admirable in a man. William wins on being the monstrous deceitful genocider and scoundrel. I'm glad the bad guy won here kind of because it made the British more capable in the long run. I will vote Godwinson though to not be a contrarian fag.
>>18398848Svend
>>18398876There were significant Breton contingents in the Norman army.
>>18398848William. They were all usurpers (except Edgar), but William was a necessary evil for ensuring the maximum amount of future kino.
>>18398848Me on the right
Harold Godwinson, the lawful heir chosen by the moot
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>>18398848Edgar because he was Edward’s openly claimed heir. >>18399625The Witan did not decide who got to be king and hadn’t for over 200 years by that point. Kingship was based on succession from father to son. Even Harold based his claim off of Edward saying so, to him the Witan wasn’t even important and he never used them as a support for his claim.
>>18399630> The Witan did not decide who got to be king and hadn’t for over 200 years by that point. Kingship was based on succession from father to son. Even Harold based his claim off of Edward saying so, to him the Witan wasn’t even important and he never used them as a support for his claim.Proof?
In hindsight? William as King was the better outcome for England. At the time as an Anglo-Saxon earl? Probably Godwinson.For what it's worth, Edward the Confessor was half-Norman himself. Edward's uncle was William's grand-father. The Tudors, Stuarts, and Hanovers were more distant than some of the previous kings than them.
>>18398848Harald. England is ours by blood right. England is just a Danish colony that got way way out of hand.
>>18399660You lost.
>>18399635Direct appointing of a son as successor and king was almost universal. Not to mention non dynastic kings simply did not exist, they all belonged to the house of Wessex.Aethelwulf appointed his son Aethelbald as king directly, Aethelberht was chosen as successor by Aethelbald, Alfred was chosen by Æthelred, Alfred split his properties in his will clearly marking Edward as king and to inherit all royal estates. Athelstan was definitely chosen as Edward's heir and Aelfweard possibly was in a divided inheritence. Edmund and later Eadred inherited the throne as their brother died. Edwig to Edgar for the same reason. Edward as the eldest son, to Aethelred as the next who was succeeded both by muscling in and death by Edmund. At no stage was the Witan ever consulted or even considered for the inheritance of any of them Aethelwulf, Alfred and Edward the Elder all acted as though the kingdom was theirs to give away without any competition. The Witan played no part in actually making them kings Edward the Martyr and Aethelred were both put under a regency as they were too young but they were without contest the kings due to inheritance. For most of these kings it's not even clear if the Witan was even called to rubber stamp their succession. The closest thing to a 'Witan' electing a king was when the nobles of England invited Edward back due to a lack of any candidates for the throne after Hrathcnut died. Harold only managed to become king because Edward fell incapable in the last months of his life, Edgar was exiled and he took the throne by force as he held both the power of the royal government in Edward's absence and was the most powerful Earl by far. The Witan was called post-hoc to acknowledge Harold's claim that Edward proclaimed him heir (when he very obviously didn't)
>>18399670>The Witan was called post-hoc to acknowledge Harold's claim that Edward proclaimed him heir (when he very obviously didn't)>posted by Norman hands
>>18399676Williams claim was also the exact same thing that Edward secretly said so and told nobody but him btw and also never disavowed Edgar and kept proclaiming Edgar as heir openly but didn’t actually mean it. At least Harold made it a last minute change of mind instead of a secret agreement years before
>>18399663Your entire nation is Celtic men with dark hair ruled by our ancestors who gave you Danelaw and Magna Carta. You had better thank us from taking you from the stone age or your entire islands would look like Ireland.
>>18399670I'm guessing we're just ignoring the bit where England spent a few decades under Danish control and the only reason Edward even came close enough to sniff the throne is because his (paternally Danish) half-brother died without a son
>>18399651>The TudorsWhy do anons that revel in the Frenchness of William act like Henry VII was a Prfyddinian hill bandit that could barely speak English
>>18398920Godwin was Edward's main backer after Harthacnut died. It says a lot to Edward's character that he eternally seethed over that.
>>18399704I dunno, but I’m just saying, it’s not like William was some crazy foreigner from outta nowhere. The House of Normandy was deeply mixed with the House of Cnut and the House of Wessex. For what it’s worth im a Tudor fan, minus Henry the 8th. Also French nationalism, ethnicity, and identity really weren’t a thing in Williams time…not even people in the French kingdom could agree on what a Frenchman was
>>18399714>it’s not like William was some crazy foreigner from outta nowhereHe was, Edward more or less being a Normanised Englisher after spending most of his life in exile in Normandy doesn't make that less so
>>18399717“My grandfather was the former King’s uncle” is crazy foreigner to you? Edward was himself half-Norman>EnglisherIsn’t a word outside of India
>>18399728Englishman* saarWilliam would've been more of a foreigner than Hardrada. William had no English ancestry, the closest thing he had was distant descent from a Danish warlord
>>18399731What I’m saying is that it’s not too far fetched for the head of the House of Normandy to see himself as a legal heir of the kingdom formerly ruled by someone from the House of Normandy (mother’s side)
>>18399741Honestly to me the most likely scenario is that Edward promised anyone and everyone the throne as it was convenient until he found out his brother was still alive (and not only that, had a male heir too)
>>18398858>always on the right side of history>creation of the Anglican heresy>the horrors of early industrialism>starting WW2>feeding Eastern Europe to Bolshevism after WW1 and WW2>spreading colonialism around the globe and then suddenly pulling out to leave half-developed hellholes everywhere>genociding Anglo-Saxons through post-modernism and mass migration todayAlso, I think you meant Normans, not Bretons.
>>18399704Propaganda from those times. Emphasizing his Welsh ancestry got the Welsh on side and generally pacified them. He was considered the rightful descendant and heir of the Welsh kings and ancient Britons. And he was a descendant of various Welsh kings but he was obviously way more French and English. He was also fluent in French because he grew up there, and he used English less.
>>18400390He was as Welsh as William was Danish.
>>18398848normans forever win
>>18398848William because my ancestors fought with him in 1066
>>18399681>Your entire nation is Celtic men with dark hairIt's Bell Beakers with light hair and eyes before the Saxons et al., but nice try, Sven.
>>18399704Henry VII considered himself English above all else
>>18398848Edgar is the rightful heir
