Was Palestine Britain's to give it away?
>The quote does not fully encapsulate Kennedy's views. He wrote in the same letter he had become "more pro-British" during his visit to Jerusalem as "the men on the spot are doing a good job here." He called the British proposed solution at the time theoretically "just and fair" but did not think it would work. On the Israel-Palestine crisis, he wrote: "I have never seen two groups more unwilling to try and work out a solution … than these two groups."Please stop trying to make the liberal who championed the CRA "le based anti-zionist", it's not gonna work
Britain didn't give Palestine away, they frequently favoured the Arabs over Jewish settlers, such as with the number of incidents involving the wailing wall or the later white paper. Britain attempted to give independence to a united Palestine state which gave equal legal rights to both Arabs and Jews, and ultimately supported the Arabs in the 1949 war. The Balfour declaration never had any basis in law, it was simply a letter by a member of the cabinet to lord Rothschild. While there were some in government who supported it's aims, they were in the minority, and it's primary purpose was as a piece of propaganda to get increased support for the ongoing war.
>>18399309Which was odd behavior considering the Arabs had a full-blown revolt against the British, while the official jewish leadership repeatedly denounced the Irgun's terrorist acts.
>>18399242The US, France, and USSR supported the 1948 partition plan while the UK abstained.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Abstentions_(10_countries)The creation of Israel was bankrolled by the French and Soviets to defeat British power in the Levant
The League of Nations said it was, and who had more authority than them? The entire point of the League was to create a supranational authority to appeal such things to. Palestine wasn't a state, it didn't have a self-determined government because it was administrated directly by the Ottoman Empire. Then the Empire fell, leaving the area virtually lawless except for a few larger municipalities, but nothing on the level of a Palestinian state. The people living there didn't even really conceive of themselves as "Palestinian" since there was nothing to really define such an identity in the centuries it spent as an Ottoman district. It was carved up into a lot of smaller communities, something the Jews exploited when they started buying up land.
>>18399331Arabs were by far the larger and more influential group in the region so it made sense to try and appease them.
>>18399348The Palestinian national movement was a reaction to the jewish migrations, yes. They won't bat an eye if Jordan and Egypt carve up the land for themselves as long the jews are gone.
>>18399331Much like the various Jewish groups, the Arab world wasn't a united place, Britain still had close allies and had a lot of influence, particularly in Jordan and Egypt. Whereas Israel leant more towards the soviets and Americans. But it was also partly just that they thought the Arabs would win and they wanted to back the winning side
>>18399361>Much like the various Jewish groups, the Arab world wasn't a united placeNevertheless each side had an authority which the British recognized the official representative of their communities. The Arab one led a revolt against the British, while the jewish one opposed violence against the British.
>>18399369Do you mean the grand mufti of Jerusalem? The British didn't exactly recognise him as the representative of the Arab community But anyway by that point the British were more interested in maintaining their Arab allies outside of Palestine. The war aims of these Arab nations didn't actually involve creating a independent Palestine, they wanted to partition it between themselves (north to Jordan, south to Egypt and a small part to Syria)
>>18399309Jewish settlers did not own nearly enough of the land and assassinated British troops and frequently terrorised the region.
>>18399254Mossad/CIA still killed him, because he wanted to force investigations on Israel's nuclear program and refused them official support, so he can still be a symbol for anti-zionism.
>>18399242https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NakbaRead this wiki and you'll know why the Palestinians are so angry at the zionists
>>18400663>read this wiki and you'll know why non-whites are so angry at whitesLe based anti-colonialism!
>>18400356Not a good look for anti-zionism then.
>>18399254yeah, Kennedy was 100% ZOGGEDA reminder John Bagot Glubb was a hero and did nothing wrong except stop (granted he was wholly out of supplies, but still), and it was a crime the British and Western governments didnt back the Transjordanian Legion more.>>18400827The British unironically treated Palestinians better than Israel, thats how bad the Israelis are
>>18401059>The British unironically treated Palestinians better than Israel, thats how bad the Israelis areBetter than the state of Israel ended up treating the Palestinians, yes. The real comparison though is to various colonial treatments of poor brownerinos throughout history. Hint: The Indian tribes have their own equivalent term for Nakba.
>>18399242Everyone seems to forget that Britain backtracked asap on that whole promise and that by the 1940s it was the Zionists who were launching terrorist attacks against British authorities because the Brits were deporting Jewish immigrants back to Cyprus.
>>18399331Jordan's royalty was firmly pro British and back then Jordan-Palestine was thought of as a singular entity, the Brits naturally were favourable to a potential Arab client state, especially in contrast to the (back then) super Soviet-phile Zionists in their hippy communes and shit
>>18401365Jewish violence against the British was exclusive to Irgun, which was denounced by the official jewish authorities. Fun fact, the newly-formed IDF ended up bombing an Irgun ship when they refused to disarm. The Arabs didn't cease their violence in the 40's and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem met with Hitler as he was engaged in war against the British.
>>18401365The Jews trying to immigrate to Israel were going there illegally. Sending them to detention camps in Cyprus was really just a slap on the wrist, they deserved worse, especially after they bombed the King David Hotel. Irgun and Lehi were literal terrorist groups, but because the Jews suffered during World War II, nothing was done about them. Britian should have just continued to rule Palestine under the League of Nations. Palestine was truly not theirs to give away. They should have never issued the Balfour Declaration after World War I.
>>18399348>The people living there didn't even really conceive of themselves as "Palestinian"The most popular newspaper in Palestine during the late Ottoman era was called "Falastin", stop repeating this lie.
>>18402344>a newspaper in the region called Palestine is called "Palestine"A truly shocking development, and anyway the jewish migration was already underway in the late Ottoman era, the Palestinian national movement was a reaction to it.
>>18399242It didn't. It allowed limited Jewish migration for a few years before pivoting to support a Palestinian state.America was the power who enabled the creation of Israel in 1948.
>>18402361>A truly shocking developmentIt is to Zios who genuinely think the Palestinian identity was created out of thin air in the 60s.
>>18402364>It is to Zios who genuinely think the Palestinian identity was created out of thin air in the 60s.I think you're confusing the general national movement with the more specific Palestinian identity as separate from Jordan, which did grow stronger only since the 60's. Jordan dropped its claim on the West Bank only in 1988.
>>18400356You really need a good argument for why israel is powerful enough to get away with killing a president yet sufficiently weak it felt that was the only option when they could've just blackmailed him with some busty ashkie honeytrap.It's not like he was a hardliner on the nuclear question so much as opposing all nuclear proliferation
>>18402365No, I'm just relaying what I've heard Zios claim.The Jordanian identity is the actual fake identity, not going back further than the creation of Transjordan in 1921.
>>18402376And yet, up to the 60's or even slightly after, if Jordan had took Palestine for itself they wouldn't bat an eye as long as the jews are gone. I can argue that would still be the case today.
Jewish Democrat politicians in the 50s and 60s are who pressured the US to begin supporting lsraeI. Even the COVID-19 relief bill included hundreds of millions towards lsraeI.lsraeI began stealing US nuclear technology in the late 50s. The US only started arming lsraeI in 1962.JFK was murdered in 1963. Republican politicians jumped on the lsraeI bandwagon thereafter in the 60s and 70s.lsraeI began selling sensitive and classified US technology to China in the late 80s. Even China's modern aircraft program was kickstarted after lsraeI gave it access to the IAI Lavi derived from the F-16 fighter jet.Support for lsraeI had actually gone down in the US in the 1980s, because of lsraeI's role in sparking and fueling the Lebanese Civil War. The support rose again in the 90s and 2000s, because of the Zionist-led wars and sanctions on Saddam's Iraq, the consolidation of the media industry, and the 9/11 false flag. The Zionists have played this game before.There are 15 million self-identified Jews globally. They make up 2% of the US and 0.02% of the global populations. Up to half of self-identified Jews don't practice Judaism as a religion, and up to a third doubt or don't believe in God.Jews disproportionately control government, media and finance. In fact, they pretty much own most media, social media and banking in the US.
>>18403752Israel came into existence because Zionist Jews ethnically-cleansed Palestinians with arms primarily bought from Czechoslovakia, brokered by USSR and facilitated by Yugoslavia from 1947 to 1949. USA only began arming Israel in 1962.>Jun 1947 to Oct 1949>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_shipments_from_Czechoslovakia_to_IsraelBalfour Declaration was three decades earlier in November 1917 and had no effect on Israel's creation in practical and material terms. It's literally a Leftist talking point to do damage-control and distraction for the Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia. Zionists parrot it to give Israel a bare minimum sense of legitimacy and to also distract from the fact that they had to shoot, bomb and lynch Brits to get them to abandon Palestine to them when the mandate expired. Britain actually had imposed restrictions on Jewish migration and wanted to hand Palestine back to its Arab majority.>Feb 1944 to May 1948>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_PalestineThere were countless agreements between different parties before and during WWI to partition the Ottoman Empire. Who got what ultimately depended on who could force or enforce what. France recognized Israel on January 12, 1949 becaming its main ally in the 1950s, eventually joined by the UK who previously only recognized Israel on April 28, 1950.Besides the US, the entire Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia recognized Israel within days or weeks following May 14, 1948, excluding East Germany. Following the June 1967 Six-Day War, all of them excluding Romania nominally broke relations with Israel because the USSR had more Arab allies. Yet, USSR still let Jews mass-emigrate to Israel starting in 1969.Even the Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) from what's now Eritrea and Ethiopia were from another communist state aligned with Soviet Russia. After the Warsaw Pact ended in 1991, another 1.5 million Jews poured into Israel from the defunct bloc, especially from the former USSR.
>>18403753Jewish oligarchs supported and funded Mussolini, the founder of fascism. When Mussolini gained power through a coup (Oct 1922), it inspired Hitler to gain power in the same way but the "Beer Hall Putsch" didn't go according to plan (Nov 1923) and the NSDAP eventually had to win through elections (Mar 1933).Zionist Jews used Fascist Italy as a base to train Zionist sailors and troops beginning in 1933. Italian Zionism had well-established itself by 1925 when its first organization "Raggruppamento d'Italia" was founded. The first Revisionist Zionist conference in Italy took place in 1932.Ze'ev Jabotinsky, a Jewish Russian who served in the British military from 1915 to 1919 and saw combat in Gallipoli and Transjordan, engaged in riots and militancy in Palestine in the 1920s before Britain banned him from re-entering Palestine in 1930. Jabotinsky founded the Betar Naval Academy in Civitavecchia, Italy in 1934 which went on to become the lsraeIi Navy.Zionist Jews also negotiated the Haavara Agreement with Nazi Germany to facilitate Jewish resettlement in Palestine beginning in 1933, the year Hitler was elected. The program only ended in late-1939 with the German invasion of Poland which historians mark as the start of WW2.Jabotinsky and Aharon Propes founded "Betar" in 1923 in Latvia. Jabotinsky and Avraham Tehomi founded "Irgun" in 1931 in Palestine. They along with "Haganah" and "Lehi" were paramilitaries that committed ethnic-cleansing in Palestine. All of them besides Betar, which still exists, merged to form the IDF after May 14, 1948.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze'ev_Jabotinsky>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar_Naval_Academy
>>18403752>JFK was murdered in 1963. Republican politicians jumped on the lsraeI bandwagon thereafter in the 60s and 70s.LBJ was the first diehard Israel fan President. Congress had a firm Democrat majority which was broken only in 1994. There's no doubt which party started the Israel bandwagon.
>>18399309Yep, the Chancellor at the time, who was Jewish, literally said that Balfour and the pro-Zionists were traitors to the United Kingdom, the UK should purge itself of Jews who call themselves Zionists, and Zionism should be proscribed as a Terrorist, traitourous ideology since anyone who follows it, is obviously more loyal to the concept of a foreign state, than the United Kingdom.https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/montagu-memo-on-british-government-s-anti-semitism
>>18399242No such thing as "Palestine." There's never been a sovereign Palestinian state.
>>18400356>Mossad/CIA still killed himBaseless conspiracy.
>>18400356Lee Harvey Oswald killed him and he killed him because he was a communist loser (an oxymoron) who wanted to go down in history but started having second thoughts when the consequences of his actions caught up with him.
