God might be more complex than a godless universe, but he is still more probable, because a God making miracles and setting up the laws of physics in the fine tuning window is unremarkable and expected, but a godless universe behaving like god, setting up everything like god, mimicking will and conscience by landing into this minuscule window, is even less likely, despite being on the surface less complex.A man is much more complex than the shape of a man formed by dust, yet it is less likely that the wind would form a man that started walking, telling you "hey whats up?" then falling into dust. except in this case the man never falls and keeps acting like a man all his life.A god less universe is less complex, yet less likely. God is more probable than a god dopppleganger esrsatz pzombie that acts like god without being god.
>>18400105Which part of the universe acts Godly? Its an apathetic shithole with no perceivable end goal
>>18400106laws of physics, the fact they can behave differently and thus adjust, the fine tuning window that is as likely as throwing paint on a board and get a perfect circle and seems like godly intent but isnt according to youwhy dont you say the same when you see a rocket or a whale or a high quality piece of art? an mass of atoms with no end goal
>>18400111When you throw that paint can on the wall about 600,000,000,000,000,000,000 every billion years (you are going to do this for trillions of years), one ending up as a perfect circle is far from a miracle. Its practically a statistical inevitability
>>18400121two lies in one sentence :-the ideas that there were more than one throw, like universe would roll its configuration like genes reproducing many times or whatever = not true-the second idea, which is that extremely low probabilities can happen, which they do not, as they become practically, for all intents and purposes, 0.so you ve ve got near zero practically zero possibilities on one rollTry not repeating absolute garbage like a slave drone pleb shitter and using your brain for once in your life next time
>>18400126You cant just say im lying without explaining why im lying cause that doesnt give me a lot to respond with. Why must a universe reroll its configuration to have multiple chances at life or why is it unable to? (either one is fine, just say something)Why cant something close to zero happen if its rolled just as much times as it unlikely? (aka a 1 in million chance rolled 1 million times)
>>18400111>Fine tuningDoesn't exist. The universe is always trying to kill you.
>>18400141you can only kil that which is alive. and yes we are mortals and programmed to die after a while, which has nothing to do with the topic>>18400136wtf are these rolls you keep talking about? if there is no god then the universe is like hat and thats it there are no rolls, or to an extent, one single roll that may go back to eternity. why does it have to reorll to =have multiples chances? wtf are you saying? a chance is a roll 10 chances is 10 rolls where are you getting at? that it is constantly changing? it doesnt seem to be constantly changing, at times but not constantly. or you want the universe to change the laws of physics each time it resets or something? also, rolling from what? you make a n analogy with genes or whatever, were are these laws of physics stored and do they get rerolled what is the force that does that how does it get stored?why woudl there be one million maximum chances, without further information it might as well be one out of infinite, which means the probability is infinitely low which means virtually zero since all other probabilities are infinitely higher in number compared to what you want, you would be stuck in a forever loop of hoping to reach that number which is impossible to reach, and 0% chance rolled an infinite amount of time is still 0%, each time you get another chancethe infinite other possibiltiies grow infinitely higher;, it like chasing an horizon that goes backwards faster than you can run
>>18400161Okay, so just to be clear, you think god fine tuned the universe to give you the worst cancer.
>>18400168fine tune for life im not sure for the rest but you re just gonna nitpick about parts that you dislike like you could fathom god or his plans with your little human pleb mind i dont understand? you speak like one small part of like less than 1% matters so much when its the one that matters the least really. you guys are willing to go through so much shit for so little reward and u complain, mortality is actually more troublesome than the potential gruesomeness of death offtopic whatevr
>>18400161You dont seem like a fun person to argue with, id probably rather eat nails so i think thats what im going to do instead
>>18400105The universe isn't just wind and dust though. It has stable laws that have been the same for billions of years, not random coincidences.
>>18400181>arguing for funno wonder you say dumb stuff, anyway keep me posted>>18400189>except the man never falls and keeps acting like a manfor billions of years yeah. which makes it so much more incredibly unlikely than a god, how unlikely it sounds either
>>18400105This is so fucking stupid holy shit how can an adult be this dull.
>>18400105Therefore jews
>>18400105Now you must prove to me that this is the Christian/whatsver god.
>>18400106>Its an apathetic shithole with no perceivable end goalLife, you retard.
>>18400168Why not? Mortality is a part of life.
>>18400106Laws of physics.
>>18400105Not everything needs to be personified like your ape brain is telling you
>>18401352You have no justification for saying "life" is the end goal, retard.
>>18401364I thought it was Godly when the laws of physics were broken? Isn't that what miracles are?
>>18402356When the laws of physics break, it's evidence of God, but also when they stay the same, it's evidence of God. Evidence of God being unavoidable like this is exactly what you would expect if God were a necessary being who existed in all possible universes, so both situations being evidence for God is even further evidence for God.
>>18402371Sounds like a false flag, but theists really make retarded arguments like this.
