If there were a religion that believed God created the universe 14 billion years ago and the religion predicted the electron orbital shapes and field equations 7000 years ago maybe id give it a chance. But the best we have is stories about gods having sex with their own sisters and dropping a rock from the sky on anyone who disobeys them so no thanks famalam. Lol.
>>18401601>the beaker doesnt need an animal sacrifice but it can actually treat diseasesYup, that is the religion for me. Also, you either take medicine when ur sick, or do u pray to god to heal it? Lol.
>>18401601This is the guy who sacrifices a ram before the jewish alter to heal his fever instead of taking le demonic tylenol. Lol.
the OP is an Indian anyway who believes technology is magic and ghost shit
>>18401598How dare you ask for evidence for religion?! Don't you know you're doing a scientism?!
>>18401601If worshiping a beaker is embarrassing then imagine how much more embarrassing worshiping a random jew must be...
>>18401601You have never heard of animal testing bro?
>>18401598God the GB was so good
>>18401601Science actually preforms miracles
>>18402752My wife's aunt had stage 4 cancer and was given months, maybe weeks to live, and then got completely better through prayer.Then my cousin's kid had pretty pronounced autism and was completely healed.The scientific answer is: "IDK, it just happened lol."
>>18402752Oh, an who created the cosmos and science?Could there be any science and logic without the Logos?
>>18402793>Me cousin had autismo and G-d healed him o algo
>>18402797Really tempting me to bring up who jesus' dad was with that painting huh.
>>18402793I don't believe you lol>>18402797Science is just how humans understand the natural world
>>18401598You wouldn't get it.
>>18402793>Then my cousin's kid had pretty pronounced autism and was completely healed.Define "healed"
>>18402797The Logos is not a Christian innovation. It’s a Stoic concept that predates Christianity and the Stoics identified the Logos not with some 1st century Judean preacher, but with the Greco-Roman god Zeus. While Zeus does frequently engage in questionable behavior in the myths, the Stoics viewed them not as literal historical events, but as allegories. The traditional anthropomorphic depiction of Zeus as a bearded man was also viewed as symbolic rather than a literal depiction of what Zeus actually looked like as they believed Zeus to be a more abstract being.Zeus is the Logos, not Jesus. Cope.
>>18401605Nobody has tortured more animals in history than scientists. And low-key even humans secretly.
>>18402793>tonight on "things that totally happened"...
>>18402928OH so NOW morals matter to the guy who believes God revealed Deuteronomy chapter 20. Lol.
>>18402923The use of Logos in philosophy predates Stoicism too bud. But partial, flawed understandings are inferior to fuller, revealed ones.
>>18402923Imperfect speculation. Christ is Logos and Tao.
>>18403022>The use of Logos in philosophy predates Stoicism too bud.Yes, in Hellenist philosophy, which is incompatible with monotheism. Zeus is the Logos, not Jesus, cope.
>>18401601every single reply to this post (until now), proves it right
>>18404461Science is real and God is not. Sorry lil buddy. "Scientism" does not exist, it's a low IQ buzzword thrown around by religious retards who are angry that their fairytales are not true.
>>18402793God isn't a magic sky wizard randomly healing some people while letting others die. Learn actual christian theology.t. Catholic
>>18404645The God of the Old Testament is explicitly an anthropomorphic god of the Bronze Age. He is shown as physically sculpting a man from clay, having to call out for Adam and Eve when they hid from him, dining with Abraham, feeling emotions like anger and jealousy, etc. He only takes this more abstract Platonic interpretation from the Gospel of John and onwards.You cannot reconcile the Old Testament with Platonic philosophy if you view literally any of it as historical (which it isn’t, but that’s a whole different conversation), the only way would be to view the entire thing as an allegory. But you only view the parts before Abraham as allegory, you genuinely think that the rest of it is literally describing historical events which is problematic since even in these parts, God is shown as being anthropomorphic (especially since Moses literally views his backside at one point).The only way to properly reconcile any literal interpretation of the Old Testament with Platonic philosophy would be to view the God of the Old Testament not as the absolute principle of reality, but as a flawed lesser being. But this is Gnosticism and thus can be thrown out the window since you reject Gnosticism.
>>18402928Farmers, bored children, bored adults.>>18403025I believe you will one day it so some church recognizes Taoism as Christ-kosher just like that one priest made the catholic church say you could be both Catholic and a Zen Buddhist.
>18404568Dude you are retarded like most people ITT are, these faggots are claiming: >18401605that a beaker/praying to science can cure diseases >18401606a complete strawman >18401625that worshiping a beaker has anything to do with the scientific method >18401654this guy is the stupidest poster ITT >18402752that science performs miracles. That is some ICP level retardation.
>>18401601woah.... really makes me think
>>18402793Yeah well my father had been crippled in a train accident so I prayed to Vishnu and he was instantly healed. What do you gotta say about that?
>>18403010>Deuteronomy chapter 20>The officers shall say to the army: “Has anyone built a new house and not yet begun to live in it? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else may begin to live in it. 6 Has anyone planted a vineyard and not begun to enjoy it? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else enjoy it. 7 Has anyone become pledged to a woman and not married her? Let him go home, or he may die in battle and someone else marry her.” 8 Then the officers shall add, “Is anyone afraid or fainthearted? Let him go home so that his fellow soldiers will not become disheartened too.” 9 When the officers have finished speaking to the army, they shall appoint commanders over it.not quite so warlike LMFAO
>>18402793He turned me into a newt but I got better
>>18402817You do know " his dad". had his real sons to contend with and I don't think he time for a boy toy.Job 38:7Genesis 6:3Psalms 82
>>18404652But muh Science == Utopian future? Meanwhile manmade horrors beyond our comprehension spring forth every day from Secular biologists. Education without Truth and Christian ethics and morals is failing. The replicability crisis means that absent the Christendom science was nested in, it will go away and be replaced by something else. Not to mention Europe is literally being replaced right now.>>18404658A lot of farflung cultures share beliefs/practices that stem from a common predecessor culture. Things like the Great Flood myth (note: myth means ancient folklore and not falsehood in this context), a creator God, sacrifices on an altar at a high place, burning incense, ringing bells... all go back to the Tower of Babel. So in so far as these cultures kept these right beliefs and practices they are doing better than the ones who have abandoned them or had them perverted into demonic ones (e.g. human sacrifice). In general, there's a distinction between God's commandments and Jesus' personal counsels to people asking him for advice. Generally the commandments are quite easy to follow. The Universalism pervading post-Vatican 2 Catholicism is a judgment against them. Orthodoxy does not recommend pursuing other religions.Now, I will anticipate you saying something like these common beliefs are just evidence of evolution. So the argument is that evolution rewards cultures with a religion with these practices? I hecking love science dude! It literally created muh hecking backwards religion to sustain my species! (Isn't the Scientific Universe/Evolution the greatest? Maybe I should worship it and call it God?)"Oh wait, I hecking hate theists. Anyways we don't need evolution anymore, our enlightened intelligent brains can make babies in a capsule. Surely that is the utopian, secular future that our Science-god will provide for us." - You probably
>>18405430>muh manmade horrors beyond our comprehensionmaybe your comprehension, should've paid attention in school and educated yourself in worthwhile areasmeanwhile these secular biologists are at least achieving something, as opposed to organized religion with zero (0) solbved problems and accurate predictions whatsoever
>>18405438Cool man, I look forward to your breakaway science civilization. I'm sure it will be great with all its solved problems and accurate predictions.
>>18401601If the U.S. government became dumb enough to consider science a religion, then scientists would benefit from tax exemption.
>>18405444>seethingit's okay to be stupid, but you should strive to be less stupid over time
>>18405444Countries and regions that lean secular tend to be safer to live in.
>>18401601both fucking cringe
>>18405481Except one is real and the other is bullshit.
