If communism was so bad, why was America so scared of a communist domino effect? Why not let communism fail and die off itself?
>>18402965Because thats oversimplifying things. It wasn't some kind of thing that was contained in Russia's borders.
>>18402965>If Trumpism was so bad, why were libtards so scared of a Trump victory in 2016? Why not let MAGA fail and die off itself?
>>18402970In this case, the libs are trying to protect their own country from a bad ideology, not another country
>>18402965The Cold War is better understood as a competition between imperial powers than any kind of ideological conflict. Domino Theory was more about falling into the Soviet sphere of influence than any kind of vindication of Marxist historiography. That's why the US was willing to work with China against the Russians.
>>18402974Libs in Europe were also upset about Trump because he influenced europopulist copycats
>>18402974Irish here, people celebrated in the streets election night 2020. Not even because Biden was Irish but because people just cared about America and thought he would improve things. You don't know what you are talking about.
The real answer is the Bolsheviks fueded originally with Freemasons before allowing them to infiltrate a few decades later
>>18403041Ireland is full of cattle drunkards just like most of the rest of the world, you say? This makes people easy to control, you say? People value the diametric sides of one system expecting change, you say? And they are disappointed when change does not come? Haha, boy, I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
>>184029651. Because having a large chunk of the world be ideologically hostile to you and aligned towards your main rival is bad2. Because many people actually care about what happens to others, including foreigners. A large chunk of the non-realpolitik motivation for the Cold War was genuine concern for what would happen to people overseas. China is a great example of this - there was a massive "China Lobby" of people interested in what happened there due to the influence of missionaries and sympathetic publishers (ie Henry Luce). Its why there was so much pressure to sanction Japan after they invaded in the 1930s, and why "losing China" caused such a shitstorm in the late 40s/early 50s.Mix these two together and you get things like The Peace Corps, which was an exercise in soft power AND drew on genuine humanitarian concerns many Americans had for the underdeveloped/Third World. Yes there's a ton of three-letter agency activity, but the CIA didn't create humanitarianism.
>>18402965If cancer is spreading obviously you'd try to stop it early on.
>>18402965Communism is abolition of borders and nations (or at least their elite) would like to keep their borders and their governments. The idea was if we don't stop this today it will make its way to our shore one day.
>>18402965The only thing the centralized, communist, economy is good for is warfare. Communism makes absolute shithole of a country in all other regards but its military potential should not be underestimated.
>>18402965>Why not let communism fail and die off itselfIt did.
The explicitly stated goal of communism is a world revolution.Communists hate when you remind them of this bwcause they want you to think they are opposed for no reason whatsoever.
>>18402965Communism was a revolutionary force with an explicit agenda to overthrow non-Socialist governments all over the world. The Communist bloc was large and at the time had a pretty impressive track record of regime endurance once it took over a state. People in the west had plenty of reasons to be highly alarmed.
>>18404025After expending massive amounts of resources on fighting it. If communism's failure was inevitable anyway, why not use those resources on helping your own citizens
>>18404045Did you know the USSR was dependent on imported grains from the US since as early as the 60's due to their retarded anti-farmer policies? The US went easy on them.
>>18404045Why *should* the communists be allowed to drag other countries down with them?
>>18403041Do irish feel inferior to Scotts ?
>>18402974>to protect their own country from a bad ideologyWhoa just like the US back in the day
>>18404124Why *should* we massacre millions of korean/vietnamese civilians and worsen our standards of living if it's pointless anyway?
>>18402965Communism is an emergent property of advance high IQ society. You can't force communism. This is why I do not like communists despite being sympathetic to communism. It won't work if you have to force it to work like what Mao and Soviets did. It will happen on it's own when the time is right.
>>18404866alright Kautsky we know its you
>>18402965Just because a country ignorantly falls into the communist trap, through a "grass is always greener" fuck up, doesn't mean they can all say "dang, this is a mistake. Guess we'll go back to the way things were". That isn't really an option at that point because they have a strong-arm dictator at the head of an army telling them to get back in their factory or they'll be sent to the gulag.
>>18402965This line of thinking probably sounds really smart if youre retarded
>>18404590Allow me to remind you once again that the stated goal of communism is world conquest.
>>18402965cuz it's similar to socialism (yes, like Hitler) and all this other stuff, this unbeaten streak "performative obeying God they do over there" allegations.
>>18405132Sure, and communism's stated goal is to create a stateless utopia, but you don't believe that would have ever happened, right? I think the reality is that the cold war boomer propaganda was largely correct, socialism is simply an inferior system. It's just that both they and (you) never actually believed it, or maybe they were just looking for an excuse to rape vietnamese children and test new weapons
>>18402965Many bad ideas stuck for a long time, think abolitionism.
>>18402965>If communism was so badIt is bad.>why was America so scared of a communist domino effect?Because it threatened their influence and power. In an alternate timeline where the USSR was capitalist, they would still be antagonized over their sphere of influence.>Why not let communism fail and die off itself?Because communism fucks up a country so bad it remains a shithole long after they get rid of it and takes several decades to recover, if they recover at all.
>>18402965Apply this logic to literally anything else and see how stupid it is:>if x is so bad why not let it fail and die off itself
>>18402965Simple answer, because communism antagonizes the capitalist class, and the US government is exclusively run by the capitalist class, which is why US policy reflects the interests of the capitalist class, which is why the US tried to contain communism, because even if communism were to inevitably fail in X years, allowing it to spread would have meant some financial losses for the capitalist class in the meantime (less workers to slave away for you etc.), whereas containing it cost them nothing, as that was being paid by regular US taxpayers anyway, also it's always a good idea to exaggerate an external threat to keep your own worker bees docile and obedient.
