Can any local schizos explain this to me? Even by the usual historical conspiracy standards this one doesn't make sense to me. Why do you believe this?
>>18403417People like Graham Hancock and Jimmy Corsetti showing patterns in stonework all across the world, things like pyramids and stacked rock wall patterns indicating an ancient, global civilization.
>>18403417So apparently every single world leader and history keeper have conspired for all of their benefit, to hide the true history of the human race. Apparently the population of humans on earth in history is far greater and they had modern technology and massive cities. One of them is under the Amazon rain forests. Crazy stuff. The governments of the world would never pretend the believe one big lie to profit from it. We've never seen this before in all of history. Tin foil time bullshit, especially the 90% of it that is true
>>18403450That wouldn't be so difficult to orchestrate when 90% of the world's elite just so happened to have been Jews, Chinese people, and Masons since like the 14-1600s
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>>18403461You posted this immediately after a direct historical assertion.
>>18403417>describing siberia and central asia as Tataria aka land of Tartars means antediluvian world spanning civilizationim not even sure its not done totally ironically
>>18403444Can you post some examples of this evidence so it can be discussed?
>>18403480Sure, go outside in any major city in North and South America, and look around until you see any stone building claimed to be from 1700-1950
>>18403486And then what happens?
>>18403489Then you need to consider how thousands of stone temples were built around the same purported time by a civilization of illiterate, malnourished retards and fat masons with little cash at the time.
>>18403486And? There's significant variety in buildings built in that range of dates and places. like A LOT of variety, even in the United States alone.>>18403492In 1700-1950? There was millions of people, mostly not malnourished, many were literate, many were FILTHY rich, and they were motivated by religion, the promise of eternal paradise, it's hard to find a more motivating reward than that.
>>18403494All of the examples you posted there look particularly Dutch, or Italian in the case of the Spanish architectural example. The worship of money is not the worship of God. You cannot serve two masters. I rebuke your Moneta.
>>18403494>>18403496As well, there were not millions of nourished people. There was famine for hundreds of years and constant war, especially in-fighting and lots of political destabilization. You expect me to believe a few million English freemasons moved to the colonies and suddenly erupted every major city in the West within a few decades? With, as I said, little money at the time and no extensive photographic documentation on how they built these temples or where they quarried the stone, or whom they contracted (outside of themselves). It's quite easy to say you made it all when you kill everyone else and are backed by the most militaristically powerful Empire in human history. Keep in mind, still, most of these people did not have food or money. Are you next going to tell me they built New Amsterdam, or that the Utah Mormons are honest?
>>18403496Yeah I have no idea wtf you're talking about go see a doctor>>18403500>There was famine for hundreds of yearsIf there was constant famine for hundreds of years everyone would have died>and constant war, especially in-fighting and lots of political destabilizationNo, there was not "constant war">little money at the timeThere was lots of money, rich people are not a modern invention>no extensive photographic documentationPhotographs did not exist for much of this timeframe and were rare for much longer. But there ARE photos of churches being constructed>how they built these templesWe know exactly how they built them they're really not that complicated>or where they quarried the stoneWe know of shitloads of historical quarries and have documentation from many construction sites saying they got it from x quarry>or whom they contracted (outside of themselves)We can also find this documentation>It's quite easy to say you made it all when you kill everyone else and are backed by the most militaristically powerful Empire in human historyAre you talking about this "Tartarian Empire" here?>most of these people did not have food or moneyYes they did. I think you massively overestimate how difficult it is to make a building and how bad quality of life was in the past. You seem to think that the average person until 1950 was like one of those monty python peasants just starving and rolling around in mud 24/7
>>18403515That's a good first sentence. That kind of arrogant dismissal surely affords you deep knowledge. I think I will take my pearls elsewhere. My poor friend enjoys his shadows, and the stone of the cave.
>>18403541>heh, I wont bother to argue with you because I'm just SO smart you'd never understand!Everyone knows this is bullshit cope dude
Gentlemen. We are discussing the governments lies, here. Let us not be childish and petty with one another
>>18403417it's just russian 90s schizophrenia fueled by krokodil and jenkem victimizing themselves, as they do
>>18403480Jimmy's yt channel is Bright Insight and he has a lot of videos about it. I'll find one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTd1fRCAvR4
>>18403444AND? HOW IS THAT EVIDENCE OF A WORLDWIDE TARTARIAN CIVILIZATION?THIS «TARTARIAN EMPIRE» DRIVEL MAY ORIGINATE FROM UNITEDSTATIANS LOOKING AT A MAP, AND «DISCOVERING» THAT SIBERIA, AND CENTRAL ASIA, USED TO BE KNOWN AS TARTARIA, AND IMMEDIATELY ASSUMED THAT IT WAS «SUPPRESSED KNOWLEDGE», AND THEN STARTED IMAGINING THINGS FROM THERE.
>>18403417People found some old maps (I think there are three maps which this designation) where some regions of Siberia and Asia are labeled as Tartaria as a simple collective term for all those funny yellow people living there. And then conspiracy theorists ran with it. Somehow a global mud flood also got included.>>18403444Damn, if only pyramids weren't the simplest way to build a tall structure.>>18403492Yeah, why would the colonies of England, France, Spain, the Netherlands and Portugal build with their english, french, spanish, dutch and portuguese styles? That's totally weird.
>>18403417It's very low IQ stuff. People who promote it don't know that European maps of Asia were inaccurate until the late 18th century. Great Tartaria was just the name of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan's descendants, which did control much of that land on that map. It then fell apart, but Europeans didn't know that so they assumed that most of Eurasia is still ruled by them. Then there is the flag which is just an imaginery placeholder (national flags weren't common back then, especially in Asia).This also got mixed up in dumb theories about architecture. Basically, some people think pre-modernism architecture is magic lost technology. It's really not, a modern stadium or industrial plant is much more structurally complex than a palace, but we don't build palaces anymore, so some idiots started claiming that everything built before like 1850 is actually a renmant of a lost, global, civilization with sci-fi technology, and that history before that was falsified. They then decided that this global civilization was Tartaria (which doesn't make sense when you think about it, since on these maps, Tartaria is in remote parts of Eurasia which lacks any monumental architecture).So yeah, Tartaria was just the Genghisid empire depicted anachronistically by Europeans.
>>18403489Magic mud
>internet gets flooded with more credulous browns>conspiracy theories become increasingly asinine and nonsensical
>>18403942>>18403968For anons so easily dismissing conspiracy theories your posts featured too many assumptions and too few evidence
>>18404073So are you telling me that proto-mongols travelled to South America and errected buildings in line with Spanish Colonial architecture all over said continent but then chose to errect buildings in line with Dutch colonial architecture when it came to the south american island of Curaçao?
>>18403492>consider how thousands of stone temples were built around the same purported time by a civilization of illiterate, malnourished retards and fat masons with little cash at the time.Have you ever considered you've been sold a caricatured view of the past?It seems that's all this "conspiracy" is based on. An internalised progressivism leading to a disbelief that there can be any kind of human flourishing not reliant upon industrial capitalism.
>>18403417It literally started out as a russian ethnonationalist conspiracy theorist in which a bunch of vatniks claimed that old maps that labels the part of Eurasia inhabited by nomadic peoples (collectively known as "Tatars") as "Tartary" actually depict a super powerful technologically advanced russian empire erased from history by evil westerners. Later on, it spread over to the west, where it was largely stripped of its russian wewuzzery element and syncretized with general conspiracy theories of ancient advanced civilizations and further developed into the wacky mud flood shit that basically claims all of history must be fake because, according to them, there's no way human beings were capable of creating pretty buildings without hyper advanced technology
>>18403417Yeah, some guy saw "here be Tartars" on an old map and so now it's a worldwide civilization that got destroyed in a mudflood and all history is a lie.
>>18403417Not who you're asking but it's an invention of fomenko the revised chronology guy and specifically formulated to make the ruskies look like the originators and inheritors of a glorious tradition as well as the true wellspring of civilization.
>>18403417It seems to me like the people who believe this stuff (mainly the people who believe the "all the beautiful buildings in America were actually built by Tartaria" part of the theory) are just midwits who refuse to wrap their heads around the fact that the reason Americans don't build those kinds of things anymore is because it's been too busy giving endless welfare to the third world for 70+ years
>>18404649Yes this is literally it. Effectively a sort of incorrect umbrella classification for all central asians turkoids got brushed across one or several older maps and that didn't agree with the more precise understanding of the region, then blacks learned about it and their misunderstanding of how literally ANYTHING works and is unresolvable through education. "damn spanish called everything in africa moors in the 16th century, that must mean that this 1/16th arab princess descended from actual moroccan north africans in spain from 1300 was a fullblooded nog."
>>18405354Those people also apparently never went to Vegas. Or they believe ancient Tatars built all that too, I guess.
