If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God inseminated the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then that means Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in an act of magical incest. Disgusting.
>God inseminated the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) Untrue, blasphemous, and directly contrary to the meaning of that verse
>>18404411Matthew 1:18>This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.Are you saying the Holy Spirit isn't God?
>>18404414It was a virgin birth sir, do you require me to explain what the word virgin means?
>>18404422If she got pregnant it means she was inseminated which is an act of incest even if sex wasn't a part of it (hence why I said magical incest). Still disgusting.
>>18404427>>18404422Cont. You could impregnate your own mother by shoving a turkey baster full of your own semen up her cunt and it wouldn't technically be sex but the offspring would still be a child of incest.
>>18404429Disgusting.
>>18404437I agree. Christianity is just plain fucked.
OP hereAlso, hail Vishnu, the great
>>18404442OP here, this Christcuck larping as a jeet didn't make this thread. Nice try though.
This guy is lying. I am the OP and Vishnu is my lord.
>>18404444>>18404443>>18404442Actually, I am the real OP, and I must say that although I believe men can be women and that the change can happen from a young age, I have problems with Christianity they don't accept my transition.
>>18404444Quads don't lie. OP is a stinking Indian.
>>18404406The spammer of Our Lady is back! I thought the jeetor was without internet or something I'm surprised by the stupidity of using the same photo
>>18404444>>18404446>>18404447>>18404450>No counterargumentI accept your concessions. The New Testament is pro-incest.
>>18404406All gods are mythologiesAll holy books are fictionalPolitics is TreacheryReligion is Brainwashing
>>18404460Go away smelly Indian!
>>18404460Saar
>If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30)Yes>God inseminated the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) No, not how that works. it was a miraculous, supernatural event that transcends the laws of nature. God, the Father did not have intercourse with Mary (by the way, surprised you didn't try to claim she was 12), she was a virgin, she gave birth, as a virgin. You also have a misconception of the Trinity, the Father is not the literal Father of the second hypostasis of the Trinity, the Son. He is eternally begotten of the Father, completely equal in nature, sharing one will and is subordinate to the Father. >then that means Jesus impregnated his own motherDepends on what you mean by "impregnated">to give birth to himself in an act of magical incestThere's no incest because there's no intercourse. God, a metaphysical being does not work by the same rules we do. There's no genetics involved and did not take human flesh until he entered the world.He choose Mary as a vessel to incarnate into the world, and she accepted her role, that's about it.
>>18404501Christiancuck may Vishnu btfo your god
>>18404427Virgin births are scientifically possible and still happen in human beings today you fucking jackass retard
>>18404429>t. Zion's strongest atheist
>>18404501>>18404554So you're both saying God isn't Jesus's father? Good to know...
>>18404465>>18404486Christians literally have no real defense for their own mythology LMAO
>>18404583Your god had his own sons. Job 38:7Genesis 6:2Psalms 82If the sons of god came unto the daughters of man, what is the difference if god come unto Mary? One created nephilim and the other created a mortal man?
>>18404583No, not in a literal, biological sense. I already stated that. The two hypostasis have a father-son relationship, they both worship and venerate each other. The son is eternally begotten from the Father, existing before all ages.>>18404597Difference between sons of God and the only begotten Son.
>>18404599So you're saying they're not actually father-son? News to most Christians...
Which came first the chicken or the egg and then you'll have your answer.
>>18404554Nope, that is not possible
>>18404406If Jesus Christ was speaking the truth every time He spoke about the "scriptures" or the words that He spoke, then it would mean that the One who made the galaxies and star clusters, the nebula and the solar system, the earth and everything on it (including man: Mark 13:19; Matt. 19:4) had placed within man's reach the WORDS He wanted "man" to hear and read (Acts 17:28, 31). It would mean that you and I could find out what was in the mind of God, the One who made the universe, and we could receive instructions from Him in human language ("words") that would tell us EVERYTHING that we really needed to know.It would mean that any man could find out where he came from, what he should do while he is here, what he shouldn't do (or say), how he should prepare for the future, and what his future would be; for as surely as sunrise follows sunset, if any REAL "God" wrote that Book He would be able to tell you and me all of that and more too; the Book contains more than 500 passages that deal with the future: that is more than 10,000 words.Did He write it or did He not?If He didn't, then whoever wrote that Book still had to know more than 500 details about what would take place anywhere from 100 to 3,000 years before it took place. Who would that be? One of your friends?Prophecy is not a ‘haphazard guess,’ nor a ‘probability’ made up on uncertain data, prophecy is history written in advance. Two-thirds of the Scriptures are prophetic, either in type, symbol, or direct statement; and more than one-half of the OT prophecies, and nearly all of the NT, points to events that are future.www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntchttps://truthischrist.com/seven/Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He died on the cross as a sinless sacrifice for all the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then rose again from the dead. You can either repent to God by receiving Him and be saved, or reject Him and go to hell.
>>18404583It's best to understand the trinity as triunity. god manifests to us in 3 forms, the father, the son and the holy spirit. but they are the same thing, they are one.
>>18405208>>18405247So you're agreeing it was an act of incest
>>18404442>>18404444>>18404446>>18404447>>18404450>>18404465>>18404486>Plug your ears and yell India India IndiaThis is just sad.
OP again Stop being anti-india
>>18405307Pathetic this is the best Christians can do. They have no actual defense here
>>18405307Lmao
>>18405307So, if the Indians are so bad, then why do Christians go out of their way to proselytize to Indians and try to get Indians to join their ranks?
>>18404601No, you fucking idiot. You're not making any counter-arguments besides stupid gotchas and strawmans. If you're not going to defend your position then don't be surprised when people make fun of you, you make skeptics look bad.
>>18405378See>>18404599In response to asking whether Jesus was the son of God you said>No, not in a literal, biological sense.Which is heresy to any real Christian
>>18404599>No, not in a literal, biological sense.If it's not figurative nor literal, then in what sense is he a Son?>they both worship and venerate each other.Show me in the bible where it says the Father worships the Son>The son is eternally begotten from the FatherWhat does that mean if not biological? Why can't we say that the Son is eternally vomited instead? If it doesn't pick an actual meaning then it is meaningless
>>18405398>>No, not in a literal, biological sense.>Which is heresy to any real ChristianReally? What heresy is that then? You can't just make vague statements and then hope for the best. So Jesus is LITERALLY the son of God? Jesus was created, an arian heresy according to you after God, the Father had sex with... Who exactly? If he's the literal Son of God then who is his mother? It can't be Mary since Jesus existed before coming into the world and taking flesh. So who did God have sex with? Himself? God takes masculine pronouns and acts as a Father and a man would, so that wouldn't make sense if Jesus Christ is literally a son of God, even in his divine, spiritual nature. Biologically? A omnipotent, and metaphysical being has the same biology we do?>B-but made in muh image!Again, not literal you fucking retard, made in his likeness, like freewill.Okay, so according to you:Jesus Christ is the Literally The Son of God, meaning the Father had sex with some other spiritual being, meaning there would be two gods because then how would Jesus be fully divine if the Father procreated with a lesser "god", and is also biologically related to each other despite not being physical beings, then spirit Jesus fucked mary and gave birth to himself.Do you see how stupid you sound?>f it's not figurative nor literal, then in what sense is he a Son?They have a Father-Son relationship. The son is obediant to the Father and carries out his will>Show me in the bible where it says the Father worships the SonHebrews 1:8 and the entirety of Hebrews 1>What does that mean if not biological? It means that they are of the Same nature. Christianity teaches the Trinity, not Tri-theism. There is one God but three hypostasis (Person). Jesus Christ has existed since all time (John 8:58) and the Trinity even appears in the first three verses of Genesis. He shares the same nature with the Father and is equal to him (John 10:30) But the Father is greater in authortiy. (John 17:3)
Trinity fags seething, remember the early christians were strict monotheists and the trinity was invented hundreds of years later. Unless you're going to argue they all went to hell to you should take the Arianpill
>>18405422You keep denying that Jesus is the son of God which makes you not a Christian to begin with.
>>18405433No I don't. You are an idiot, and I only keep talking to you to further show how stupid you are, and for other Christians to learn how to deal with Retards such as yourself.Step-Fathers are not biologically related to the Step-son, yet they have a father-son relationship>So you're saying Jesus is the step son of-"No, you are an idiot dalit who is incapable of nuance and critical thinking.Can you please actually explain what you're arguing in OP instead of making stupid one line responses?
>>18405439Saying Jesus is only the step-son of God is tantamount to saying he isn't the son of God, retard.
>>18405453>Did exactly what I predicted in my responseYou are an idiot. I don't believe Jesus Christ is the step-son of God, fucking moron. They have a Father-Son relationship. How many times must I reiterate myself Jeet? Can you answer any of my questions I posed to you? No you can't, because you're an idiot. If they are LITERALLY Father and Son, then the Trinity is a false doctrine and there are two gods. The holy spirit is begotten from the Father the same way Jesus Christ is. Is the holy spirit literally the son of God also?
>>18405458If they have a father-son relationship, why do you keep denying that in other posts? It's almost like you can't actually defend against the incest bit...
>>18404554no parthenogenesis was ever observed in mammals.
>>18405439>>18405458calmest religiotard itt.
>>18405459No I don't, because you are an idiot. I think you're genuinely just too stupid to talk too saar. God bless>>18405465>Least obvious samefag
>>18405466>No answer to why you keep contradicting yourself and are unable to defend against the incestuous connotations of Jesus's birthI accept your concession
>>18405422>The son is obediant to the Father and carries out his willSo he's a slave with no agency? That's not a son>Hebrews 1:8There's no worship there. And many figures in the bible are called gods. Jesus himself says this to the Jews that falsely accused him of saying he's God.>They have a Father-Son relationship.No they have a Master-Slave relationship. The Slave is obedient to the Master and carries out his will>It means that they are of the Same natureMary according to your belief gave birth to a being with a different nature than her, so clearly that doesn't work. It's much better to use the word clone here anyway.>existed since all timeHe was the first of the Father's works and I can show you that. Anyway your verse is abused in many ways by trinitarians. Since you're going for the preexistence claim then this can be understood to be talking about foreknowledge. Not only are there many supporting biblical verses but the very context itself is about prophetic knowledge of when Jesus was to come "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”. The Jews misunderstood him that he was saying he met Abraham when in reality it's about Abraham knowing of the Messiah>Trinity even appears in the first three verses of Genesis.No it doesn't, the word is "ruach" which means wind or breath of God. Anyway the bible says there are 4 spirits in the heavens. Zechariah 6:5 Quadirnity??>He shares the same nature with the Father and is equal to him (John 10:30)He is also one with the disciples in the exact same way he is one with the Father. That's what he explicitly says. They have a divine nature too?>The Father is greater in authortiyThat's an ontological difference between them. They cannot be the same being. Everything the Son has is being given by the Father, he can do nothing on his own. The reverese is not true
>>18405289No it wasn't, incest requires actual sex to happen.
>>18406443>it's not incest if I take a turkey baster full of sperm and inject it in my own motheryes it is
