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he was a demon in human form
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>>18406275
Did you come here from that /tv/ thread? I swear this place is smaller than it feels. Anyway, I still stand by my post about hair transplants looking like shit.
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>>18406281
it's 20 actual anons and the rest are jeets and AI bots conducting /pol/yp psyops
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>>18406275
He was just retarded, Mulroney and Thatcher were evil though.
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>>18406275
He was idealistic, and there's something endearing about his strong push for increased national pride. But all of that was just in the context of the struggle against the Communist bloc. He didn't really mind was America was proud of as long as it wasn't Communism, hence his criminal support of immigrants(including illegals) as well as the secularist watering down of the American way of life. I remember a few months ago I saw a "based right-wing" X account unironically say that "America is about guns, burgers, and bikinis". It instantly reminded me of Reagan.
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>>18406359
Either he was trying to compliment America for being high T or he had ulterior motives or both.
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>>18406359
>he wasn't racist enough so I le....can't like him
Just grow up already faggot. This shit was cool and edgy when you were a retarded child in middle school 20 years ago. That's not how the world works.
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>>18406275
>>18406307
They were pretty open about their principles and stuck by them despite being in the post civil-rights era full of boomers. You might disagree with their morals, but they'd politely disagree with you. Why do they make you seethe to the point you act like they are an evil villain from one of your beloved mouth gape inducing marvel/DC movies? Have you actually done any thinking and came to this conclusion on your own or did reddit instruct you to believe this?
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>>18406365
Found it. It was in a thread talking about browns not being compatible with western cultural norms. I don't disagree with that and I agree with what he says in the rest of that post but the American Pie crap is not "western cultural norms" and is not the American way of life. It's a secularist phenomenon which is precisely what undermined religiosity in America and carried counter-culture to victory.
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>>18406383
>gives citizenship to millions of spics that had no right to be here in the first place
>expands gun control
>empties the psych wards because that's socialism o algo
Yes anyone who has a problem with these things is muh reddit according to dickless trannies like you.
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>>18406390
you literally posted 3 reddit memes reddit brings up constantly whenever reagan is mentioned

>gives citizenship to millions of spics that had no right to be here in the first place
It was impossible for Reagan to pull an Operation Wetback 2.0 after the civil rights movement, the immigration act however stipulated borders be tightly controlled whenceforth. This didn't pan out because blue states undermined border controls and said boomers later elected Clinton.

>expands gun control
After his presidency while suffering from alzheimer's.

>psych wards
Dystopian institutions that not long before were conducting lobotomies.
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>>18406425
Wtf are you even talking about, reddit brings up him somehow being responsible for fags infecting each other and him giving lip service to the Christian Right during his Presidency. Sometimes they bring up Iran-Contra because everyone knows how much liberals love the delegation of powers(while screeching that "independent agencies" must not be struck down by the courts of course)
>It was impossible for Reagan to pull an Operation Wetback 2.0 after the civil rights movement, the immigration act however stipulated borders be tightly controlled whenceforth. This didn't pan out because blue states undermined border controls and said boomers later elected Clinton.
None of that addresses him giving amnesty to millions of illegals
>After his presidency while suffering from alzheimer's.
Nope, he became pro gun control after that schizo shot him
>Dystopian institutions that not long before were conducting lobotomies.
Enjoy the dregs of society roaming your streets.
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>>18406438
I don't know what they're saying on reddit itself, but I'll take your word for it. On 4chan whenever reagan is brought up the redditors spout these 3 memes.

>None of that addresses him giving amnesty to millions of illegals
Well it does, because it was the 1980s not the 1950s when large parts of the country still had segregation.

>he became pro gun control after that schizo shot him
Then why didn't he pass these laws while President and completely lucid?

>the dregs of society roaming your streets
Reagan believed in freedom not gulags, as you do.

If Reagan is at fault it was for not realizing the seriousness of the degeneracy problem and using his 2nd term, when he is no longer burdened with appeasing boomer ex-hippies, to address it with a number of proposed reforms and impassioned speeches to the American people. All in all he represented the "reaction" to the counterculture and a desire to return to the wholesome trad values of the 1950s, an admittedly naive attempt to reconcile it with modern liberalism, but his heart was in the right place if you can understand this nuance. Thatcher was the bon version of this "reaction".
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>>18406445
>Well it does, because it was the 1980s not the 1950s when large parts of the country still had segregation.
What? I don't understand, Reagan giving amnesty to millions of illegals is fine because the 80's were more liberal than the 50's?
>Then why didn't he pass these laws while President and completely lucid?
Probably out of political capital considerations. He already counter-signalled "assault weapons" in his speech to the NRA in '83
>Reagan believed in freedom not gulags, as you do.
Yeah I don't worship "freedom" as he did, I believe in both all-for-one and one-for-all rather than just one of them. If you can't see how public order and removing unstable and dangerous people from the streets is a basic priority then your obsession with "freedom" is just a fetishization at this point.
>If Reagan is at fault it was for not realizing the seriousness of the degeneracy problem and using his 2nd term, when he is no longer burdened with appeasing boomer ex-hippies, to address it with a number of proposed reforms and impassioned speeches to the American people. All in all he represented the "reaction" to the counterculture and a desire to return to the wholesome trad values of the 1950s, an admittedly naive attempt to reconcile it with modern liberalism, but his heart was in the right place if you can understand this nuance. Thatcher was the bon version of this "reaction".
Other than giving some lip service and keeping Pat Buchanan in his staff(Reagan was the precursor to the people who blocked Buchanan from influence over the party anyway) he didn't do anything that represented "trad". Also the term "wholesome trad values of the 1950s" is disingenuous in that it describes religious morality as if it was just a fad in American history. Irreligiosity is the aberration, and it was even more so in the 80's when Reagan did nothing about it.
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>>18406382
Oh he was racist alright, we have him on tape calling African diplomats in the UN monkeys during a call with Nixon. He was just cucked on the big picture and was willing to make America brown if it meant sticking it to the Communists.
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>>18406456
>Equal Rights Amendment binned
>women's rights nearly nonexistent
>LGBT community persecuted and allowed to die of AIDS by the millions
>blacks suffer in crime and poverty from the War on Drugs and cutting vital social services
idk where you get this idea that the radical right did not have a major say on public policy back then
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why does nobody bring up the National Minimum Drinking Age Act which was the obvious worst blunder of his presidency?
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>>18406567
>>Equal Rights Amendment binned
He opposed it because he thought it would harm the economy by discouraging women from entering the workforce without affirmative action in their favor. Not exactly something the "radical right" agrees with.
>>women's rights nearly nonexistent
See above, other than that you're just making a vague statement
>>LGBT community persecuted and allowed to die of AIDS by the millions
Blame the apparently right-wing fags who kept infecting other fags
>>blacks suffer in crime and poverty from the War on Drugs and cutting vital social services
Again due to lolbertarian views on the economy and welfare rather than race. And anyway your pets will suffer in crime everywhere they go because that's how they are.
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>>18406275
he was a prototype of modern American politics
>so old as to be suffering cognitive decline
>ideology entirely derived from movies and television
>deeply religious but his understanding of religion is based on a heretical cult pushed by entrepreneurial grifters
>lifetime of wealth and comfort made it impossible for him to even conceive of potential negative consequences
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Blacks were poor and had disproportionate crime rates in every decade, before and after the Great Society though.
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>>18406456
>because the 80's were more liberal than the 50's
Reagan wasn't absolute dictator, he was elected in a democracy with an enormous liberal boomer electorate that would never allow Operation Wetback 2.0. His options were limited so he went for this deal to control the borders, no more illegal immigrants, those already in the US, who weren't leaving anyway, receive amnesty to appease the left and get the act passed. What did you expect? Reagan to snap his fingers and turn the US into a fascist Reich?

>Probably out of political capital considerations.
So now you realize he was not absolute ruler. He could have very easily pushed for gun control, he did not and argued the opposite.

>Yeah I don't worship "freedom"
No one's asking you to worship it, just realize you are better off with it unless you are one of the tiny minority in the hierarchy that controls the country through brutal force.

>removing unstable and dangerous people from the streets
Who decides they are unstable and dangerous? The politburo?

>Pat Buchanan
Reagan tried his best to include him despite his Sons of the Confederacy connections, he was really trying to achieve a reversal of the degeneracy that erupted in the 1960s, and if Republicans had just stuck with hardcore uncompromising Reaganism they would have probably succeeded.

>the term "wholesome trad values of the 1950s" is disingenuous
Trad values up to the 1950s then.
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>>18406275
Reagan did nothing wrong and you're a communist tranny.
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>>18406275
Is that like how you think you’re a woman in man form?
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>>18406707
You don't "appease the left" on immigration
>enormous liberal boomer electorate
If under a 57% white population someone can win an election while campaigning for mass deportations, so can poor Ronnie with an 80% white population. Libs were not an "enormous electorate", the backlash against counter-culture was still ongoing and specifically with regards to immigration Prop 187 shows just how far off the mark your claims are. If it's bad international PR that concerns you then yeah that figures, Reagan cared more about the Cold War then he did about American demographics.
>No one's asking you to worship it, just realize you are better off with it unless you are one of the tiny minority in the hierarchy that controls the country through brutal force.
Your rants about degeneracy later on seem real shallow when you portray the most basic social contract as a dystopian tyranny.
>Who decides they are unstable and dangerous? The politburo?
The characteristic of the Politiburo was that it was a centralized authority, you don't get to invoke it to fearmonger against all authority. Authority is not negative actually, the fasces is a common symbol for authority and is still prominently displayed in American symbolism
>he was really trying to achieve a reversal of the degeneracy that erupted in the 1960s, and if Republicans had just stuck with hardcore uncompromising Reaganism they would have probably succeeded.
Unlikely since people like you would say it's against their "freedom".
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>>18406275
Seethe commie tranny
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>>18406425
>blames le Democrats who came in a decade later for Reagan's amnesty bill
>Reagan had Alzheimer's when he expanded Californian gun bans in the 60s
>psych wards are dystopian we should leave them on the streets instead
Reaganfags are even more retarded than lbjfags.
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>>18406389
The father and his son in the movie are played by two jews, Eugene Levy and Jason Biggs. It was okay for its time but it was an obvious psyop. That being said its also probably what led to the incel phenomenon, but that was a long time coming, the rising acceptance of the myth that male virginity was seen as something "dirty" and to be disposed of. I'm 43, lived it. And women loved to shame you for it too, even hurling insults. But you couldn't hit them or beefed up white knights would try and beat you up. Simps disgust me.
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>>18406275
He was a stupid Hollywood actor that faked his way through politics that took orders from his handlers and was president when Reaganomics got started is why we have a small percentage very rich while everyone else struggles to make rent and pay bills and feed themselves
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>>18407956
No advocate of supply-side economics ever used "trickle-down"analogy or called it "trickle-down", it's a pejorative term.
Thankfully we don't need to argue about theory, it's a verified fact of reality that lower taxes are related to higher productivity, and that higher productivity is related to higher wages.
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>>18406281
/tv/ is one of the biggest boards. Makes sense /tv/ anons spread around
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>>18407956
People were struggling under Carter and Reagan fixed it.

Carter had a very simplified view of economics, he believed capitalists need to be taxed into the ground to redistribute the wealth back to the proletariat, a view shared by the majority of Democrats today. There is a shred of truth to it, but the real world is more complicated.

An analogy might be BLM looting Walgreens. To begin with the store is full of people's pain medication prescriptions that can be sold on the drug market, there is also some cash in the register and various items people might want for free on the shelves. However after the looting Walgreens is not going to restock so BLM can loot it again, they are going to move location or beef up security, with the costs passed on to the consumer.

It is the same with the wider economy. Carter taxed the productive capacity of the nation, at first perhaps he got to loot the savings and surpluses of the corporations, but in the long term he tanked the economy. This is where Reagan came in, he restored confidence assuring that Carter's experiment was over and America was going back to the way it was, a country of free enterprise.
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>>18407988
No free healthcare for poor citizens but plenty of money to bomb the middle-east into submission or to give Ukraine or whatever excuse they make up to bomb the shit out of
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>>18407830
He's right though? If you're still a virgin as an adult you're not a fully developed human.
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>>18406567
That stuff is extremely based sounds like we need another Reagan
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>>18407956
>retard leftist believes big bad Reagan is the reason wealth disparity exists
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>>18408148
You will never be denied emergency care in America regardless of finanacial situation. Medicaid has been a disaster and nothing but a financial burden like all of LBJ's programs.
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>>18407988
Oh well, at least he legalized home beer brewing so that's something.
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>>18408148
Creating gibsmedats like free healthcare that bind the people to the state would be considerably worse for America than using the same money to blow up brown people for Israel. You look at the dead, decaying husk of Europe and find a model for society? Then you should get the fuck out of my country
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>>18407988
>People were struggling under Carter and Reagan fixed it.

>>18407607
not in the Midwest they weren't
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>>18408174
Looks like much of the midwest was, even Will County is red in that picture.
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>>18408174
newsflash, farmers are retards who cannot manage money. always were going back to the 19th century when they demanded 20% inflation to pay off their debts.
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>>18408155
>anyone who disagrees with me is a leftist o algo
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>>18408172
gibsmedats are worse than wars and funding for israel, but both are inextricably linked, neither would be a thing were it not for der jude
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>>18408174
Whats up with the Midwest trending blue? I've moved far beyond petty red team/blue team nonsense into actual existing political philosophy (thanks Leo Strauss & Joseph Cropsey) but living in Ohio i feel so far removed from everyone. When people talk politics around here it's like speaking to aliens.
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>>18407964
Also the most egregious users by far. I rarely if ever visit that board.
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>>18408150
That doesn't logically make sense unless you're some roastie bimbo. In that case, post tits.
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>>18407960
There is no concrete proof for or against trickle down economics. The assumption that lower taxes will mean increased productivity/wages is idealistic at best and assumes that those who own the companies that are getting the lower taxes won't just pocket the difference. We have seen it multiple times in last twenty or so years where tax cuts to the wealthy just resulted in stock buybacks with no substantial increase in wages relative to inflation/cost of living.
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>>18408401
Disagree
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>>18408431
Note that "the wealthy" in this case doesn't actually mean "the wealthy", it means working class white people.
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>>18408531
Working class taxes are usually minimal or expire while the tax cuts for the wealthy are permanent.
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>>18408531
^This.
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>>18408531
>if you attack rich jews, you're actually attacking white people!1!1!1!
is this the latest tactic?
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>>18406567
>>Equal Rights Amendment binned
A lot of women didn't support it at the time either. They didn't want to do shit like the draft and potentially having certain divorce laws being ruled unconstitutional. It wasn’t far right at all, it was genuinely a different time, the housewives that raised boomers in the 50s and 60s were still around and were still a significant voting block.
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>>18406275
he was a serial killer who bragged about killing people

how are you rich and you're robbing people, you're robbing producers, you're robbing rappers, you got money!
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>>18408733
Shhh we don't talk about how the Carters were besties with Harvey "gimmie dat little boy bussy" Milk and Jim "all hail the Soviet Union but I larp as a pastor" Jones.
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>>18408733
That "which message will resonate" template seem to be posted exclusively by bitter libs and of course the Kamala Harris campaign. Seethe I guess.
>>18409551
>Jim "all hail the Soviet Union but I larp as a pastor" Jones
The fact that Jonestown still isn't considered an act of leftist political violence despite Jones explicitly declaring it as a revolutionary suicide in rejection of capitalism and willing all his assets to the USSR is beyond me.
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>>18409555
It's because leftists control academia and they memoryhole shit that makes them look bad, just look at their efforts to hide the history of the CHAZ and that was only five years ago.
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>>18409564
I wouldn't call it a memoryhole, just a very aggressive spin. A deliberate hyper-focus on the "cult" aspect and zero attention given to the inherently political nature of that group.
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>>18409568
True, but honestly the best thing to do is continue to display Jones's politics and how embeded he was in the DNC especially during the Carter years. I mean the guy helped the Democrat mayoral candidate for San Francisco by bussing in his congregation from far away to vote for the guy.
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>>18408733
finally someone who got the reference
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>>18406275
Procopeius, found a new target?
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>>18409555
they also don't mention that 80% of the victims were black
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>>18409555
Jonestown is the final form of Christcuckery
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>>18409569
I guess they also didn't tell you John Wayne Gacy was procuring boys for members of the Illinois state DNC.
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>>18411116
70s dems were still different from modern dems to be fair
even up to the 90s, Clinton was considered very conservative by actual leftists



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