If an individual either struggles to fit in(outcast) &/or currently has a lack of friends(loner). What does this mean about that individual?
Is there any deeper meaning to this?
>>18406635It means they're deep thinkers anon.
>>18406635Everyone is faking it on some level because that is structurally built in. But I feel like outcasts r just people who don't take a agreeable identity in the gaze of society u may not trust societies desires or want to relate with them. You don't share their fantasy. Or maybe you want all of that but ur trapped by the god you made that out to be. The fantasy that if u could just fit in then u will be good. But ironically that kind of fantasy just keeps you at a arms length as it keeps you too scared to act because it will get u too close to THE REAL which is that you may never fit in no matter what. So you don't try or u looksmax or caccoon mode or winter arc which is all surplus enjoyment the enjoyment of the desire to fit in. But not actually taking real steps to do it.
>>18406960So you either resort to online "friends" or just accepting surface connections like acquaintances?
Look at astrology. The 11th house, the lord of the 11th house give signification of friends. Moon significates emotional life and "amiability" Venus significates social skills. Some people just have astrological energies where fate pushes them away from friendships to be alone. >Chart example: Pisces ascendant, with Saturn ruling the 11th house, and placed in the 12th house. This means the native will have friends of a Saturn-12th nature, which basically means to have very few friends, and if they make friends it will be with foreigners and outcasts. >What does this mean about that individual?Astrological fate is the set of tests you signed up for when incarnating into this body. Being alone can produce amazing things that hyper-socialized people would never dream of
>>18406635To make you feel better anon, Most people's friendships are largely a showThey hate their own friends, envy them, compete with them, slander and shit-talk behind their back. They have the illusion of friends, but mostly they are afraid to break the mold of social conformity in order to truly discover themselves. Because age 30 or so for a man, it becomes weird to have friends. You either have a family, or business contacts, but not much else typically. If a person has a great social life in their adult-hood its ussually from business, or because its built around their kids.
>>18407565>picif you're standing inside of a train car and jump up, do you fly to the back of the train?
>>18407569Rotational inertia.Think of water drops flying off a wet tennis ball - the water drops fly in a straight line. Similarily the earth rotates downwards at a very fast rate, so suspended dust particles show fly up to the ceiling.
>>18407565All friendships start superficial. You can't walk into a close deeply personal friendship instantly. You first become superficial friends with someone and either you both connect well enough to become closer or you don't and stay superficial. Also, fake ass bitch friends become very easy to spot over time. They will always want something, only want to interact in group settings, love to make you the butt of jokes but take it personally when you return the same, etc. Most common among the workplace imo.
>>18406635You need to stop overthinking it. Philosophic friendships like the ones written about in Plato or whatever do actually exist, and they're really fucking gay and annoying if you translate them into a modern context. You can get one in like two seconds by watching anime and befriending autistic oversharing people at conventions or whatever. Hence my theory that philosophers were essentially the queer adjacent band kid subcultures of their time, and unfortunately all that's survived in writing. Find some drinking buddies, watch some sports and just get used to the slower pace of getting invited to things and just existing in other people's presence. You will honestly be surprised. You don't have to lose your niche interests or reading but if you're lonely the last thing you should do is wallow in a terminally online community and substitute it for real friends, you biologically need to just exist in other people's presence.
OP here>>18407559Astrology is hocus-pocus. go to >>>/x/ please.>>18407565Already struggled fitting in as a teenager (im 19M) so are you basically saying my entire life i'll be alone? I will have to accept that if true. I best had 1-2 real friends while having 3 acquaintances. Currently have no friends as I lost whoever awhile back ago.>>18407653I've had fake "friends" before, they're also quite selfish as in the relationship evolves into a one-sided dynamic where you only hangout at their place, they monopolize conversations, try to change you instead of accepting your authenticity, also having judgmental attitudes about your choices. And yes they have a frequent habit of gossiping about everyone.>>18407667Interesting. Also I don't drink alcohol nor do I like sports (indifferent). Yes you do have a point with needing real friends because I did have online friends a few years ago & while it was enjoyable it still made me lonely.
>>18407645No, that's just wrongAnd anyway,, it's a terrible example. The wet ball in your hypothetical is being acted on by the immense gravity of earth whereas earth would not be experiencing a similar gravitational pull relative to the tennis ball just a couple feet off of earth's surface.
>>18407068>So you either resort to online "friendsIt's either that or nothing. I'm glad I have a few of those. It's great to talk to people you easily relate to.
>>18408352It's hard to find people to relate with in real life. Yet on this website the people here are decent.The online "friends" I had eventually out grew.
If you move around a lot, or discard friends as you transition between school environments, say, high school > college > rest of life, that's natural. I have no friends left from my teens (am 40+). If you have no hobbies or lifestyle-type things going on, and no way to meet people, yes, you will end up with no friends, just online handles.I think it's probably not good, but I can't tell you why, except we have a deep psychological need to connect, and that doing so is comparable to sex. Loneliness actually kills, sort of, or at least correlates. Loners live shorter lives.You should accumulate friends, anon. Learn to value loyalty over looks and merit. Doesn't mean putting up with assholes though.I was a 20 year old loner, now I'm in my late 40s and have a very rewarding friend network. It equals a higher quality of life, even if I can't describe exactly why.
>>18406635It doesn't mean anything. Its more of an indictment of the surrounding society. Despite being a chud sometimes Enlightenment thinking slaps sometimes. Rousseau was just misunderstood. Aside from that it may possibly say they're highly intelligent too. Society places too much emphasis on conformity and herd behavior, no doubt exacerbated by our gynocentric culture.
>>18408409>If you move around alotNever moved in my life.>Discard friends as you transitionI had 1-2 friends from school yet I wasn't deeply close with them but close enough to be comfortable.>Loners live shorter lives.You mean lonely people live shorter lives due to the effects being comparable to smoking & obesity.>have a very rewarding friend network.Networking seems inauthentic to me.
>>18408422>Despite being a chud sometimes Enlightenment thinking slaps sometimesI don't identify as a chud or incel. Rather its volcel for me.>Aside from that it may possibly say they're highly intelligent too.Heard that, don't know how true it is.>Society places too much emphasis on conformity and herd behavior, no doubt exacerbated by our gynocentric culture.Ok dude I don't want to hear misogynistic ramblings.
>>18408560>Networking seems inauthentic to me."Friend network" doesn't mean "networking." It's just what I'm calling the interconnected group of people that are my close friends.
