>"We need to think about the minorities! Majoritarianism is bad for democracy, it leads to mob rule!">"Okay, fine. Let's do stuff for minorities then.">*ignores majority*>*keeps ignoring the interests of the majority*>*keeps engaging in minority politics*>"It looks like majority politics has been neglected to such an extent that most people are now feeling completely dispossessed. Maybe we need to do some stuff for the majority.">"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING POPULIST FASCIST PIG! THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY IS SUPPOSED TO WORK"At what point do we recognize the fact that, for the past 200 years, attacks on majoritarianism and the so-called "checks and balances" against the tyranny of the majority-boogeyman were just a divide-and-conquer strategy to undermine democracy and serve the interests of the few?
Historically, only minoroty of men could vote.Nobody ever believed letting everyone vote was a good thing.
By "minority" they mean bourgeois btw
>>18407183Initially yes. In the present day, the minorities are the general sexual and ethnic minorities which monopolize discussion of human rights etc. This is an inversion of what Marcuse describes in Repressive Tolerance, meaning that "minority rights" are excessively pursued to give the impression of democracy, while "majority rights" and substantial reform are purposefully ignored.In any case, the minority benefiting from this the most is of course the capitalist oligarchy.
>>18407183Regarding early modern to modern republics, they mostly mean the jews. When jews were still religiously discriminated in Europe, couldn't hold public office, apply for practical work, vote, serve as military officers, join guilds and so on. The religious demographics of that time we're mostly 99% christians, 1% jews.That's why most "individual freedoms" democracy is praised for, for example religious freedom, were only enacted to politically empower the jews.
you're late to the party op. your point of reference seems to be a short period from the end of kabinetskrieg to ww2 when mass mobilization was a necessity. warfare changed again and there is no more need for mass mobilization the reason behind demagogy in the first place. drone swarms and robot soldiers all will obviate the need for infantry anyways even before accounting for very limited manpower from low birth rates now plummeting everywhere but among the poorest dirt farmers deep in sub saharan africa. even leaving aside the future right now current infantry tactics enable highly skilled specops forces to outgun tens to hundred times number disadvantages in itself already a return to aristocratic warrior class ethos and the associated required prowess trumping the numbers of low class hoi polloi levies. and that is to say nothing of even more aristocratic navies and aviation. and honestly the entire paradigm of total war was already obsoleted by nukes preventing direct confrontations for decades now, no wonder the classical republicanism was diluted everywhere by women suffrage end of censitary, literacy requirements, mass migration etc etc etc. the end of democracy is so overdetermined it is no wonder aristocracy as the natural state of humanity is coming back with a vengeance.btw if it wasn't clear already classical marxism total disregard of military history is why it was so wrong about the fate of the proletarians. that last word alone seems to assume the conditions for the rise of rome and its reliance on mass drafted infantry is the default when it really was the exception.
>>18407406j. sakai hates white people because his jewish employer shitcanned him for wanting a day off. I'm not kidding, those are his own words
>>18407429>working as an Asian houseboy
>>18407429>>18407434btw, j. sakai was a japanese californian. despite making up 2% of the state's population, they owned nearly half of its farms and lorded over masses of desperate oakies essentially like southern planters. of course, this changed when fdr appropriated japanese-american farmland and sold it for pennies on the dollar to poor white berry pickers (their former employees). methinks j. sakai was a little bitter over this, though as a communist, you'd think he'd be pleased to see workers seizing the means of production :^)
>>18407183Communists are a minority that benefits from protections like say the First Amendment when the majority would support persecuting them.
>>18407134“Tyranny of the majority” doesn't exist. It’s an elitist propaganda term used by rich elites to discredit the will of the people and protect their own power and influence. People who unironically believe in “tyranny of the majority” constantly bring up scenarios to make it sound reasonable like “51% of the population could oppress the other 49%,” but the problem is that this scenario simply doesn’t occur and is so unlikely to occur that it’s practically a non-issue.It might have been a somewhat reasonable concept back when most people were illiterate and superstitious peasants (e.g. the Salem Witch Trials were basically a result of mob rule). But we don’t live in that world anymore as more and more people are educated, the only people opposed to educating society are ironically the people who still screech about “tyranny of the majority” even though actually educating people would prevent what they screech about.
>>18407144That's right, initially only the rich or those who paid a specific amount of taxes could vote lol. It's incredible that it was only thanks to pressure from the labor movement in the 19th century that men were able to vote, and well, in the 20th century women finally gained the right to vote.
>>18407134>thinks the majority voted throughout the history of democracies>complains about leftist idpol regarding political representation >shills for populism, an earlier form of leftist idpolKek. Just kill yourself faggot. You aren't even a real human being at this point.
>>18407134I abhor majoritarianism, however I think government should only serve people who hold up the infrastructure.
>>18407200I like how leftists turn "capitalism" into this boogeyman. For as much as you accuse the religious right of being superstitious you guys aren't really making a good case for yourselves.
>>18407799Everything the right complains about (immigrants, faggotry, etc.) is all just the result of someone who wants to make more money. This is a fact that rightoids avoid harder than a spic avoids ICE.
>>18407790There's an obvious difference between the lack of franchise given in the past and the modern insistence on placating the bottom fringes and the dregs.
I have come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as fairness or democracy and it is and has always been and will always be a fight for survival and power, so basically you shouldn't give a fuck about anyone but you and yours and all that matters is destroying them and theirs
>>18407803>you complain about faggotry because of capitalismDark woke thinks they can win white men over like this
>>18407803>leftists pretending to not be the biggest faggots and brown worshippers>you now remember white dudes for harris>>18407809>dark wokeThat's a good one
>>18407816>dark wokeMeant for >>18407810
>>18407804>There's an obvious differenceTo who? You? Or actual elites who held that power for all of history? I guarantee that sort of talk would've gotten you thrown in prison by the same elites you complain about not giving you political representation today. People had to die for these rights, faggot. They weren't just handed to you because you're the majority.
>>18407816>can't address the post because he knows he's wrongcapitalists sell you tranny shit and then you blame communists. you are retarded.
>>18407825>to whoTo anyone with functioning eyes. The "actual elites" were "actual elites" because they were owned land or were in the military, nowadays the placated minority is junkies on the streets.
>>18407799>stop making up boogeymen!>now let me bring up my leftist boogeyman like clockwork
>>18407810How's the kike war going?
Modern constitutionalist regimes are an attempt at what Plato et al called a mixed constitution with elements of democracy, aristocracy and monarchy. Your mistake OP is you are buying into the party line an example of which is the boomer era western civ teaching of Athens as a precursor to modern regimes when the original theorycrafting was a response to the athenian regime that the philisophers involved despised.
>>18408004The first step of delegitimizing the current political system is calling out its hypocrisy.
>>18407803Thats not how it works lefttard you can be right wing and oppose market fundamentalism. All pre-19th century right wing thought was literally like this. Read history.
>>18407388>drone swarms and robot soldiers all will obviate the need for infantry anywaysdrone swarms cannot hold territory, and robot soldiers are a fantasy
>>18407570I really dislike people use Virginian land owners, the original stakeholder republic, as the basis for the entirety of the post revolutionary war enfranchisement Even in Virginia, as you said, it was land owners automatically were considered enfranchised as well as anyone who paid a certain level of taxes, but also any soldier or veteran, public official, business owner, and those engaged in any taxable commerce, which amounted to iirc around nearly 70% of the male population Fun fact, Vermont had universal suffrage in the 1780s and while it was the most encompassing it was not vastly different from the rest of the original states, with Virginia being the most restrictive and still having a plurality of “free Huwhite men of good character” ie Americans, able to vote
>>18407803It seems some one is not aware of the Sir Oswald “keep that shit in the closet fag, hey ghetto jew! Kuhn Loeb and Rothschilds are fucking you over too!” Mosley
>>18407799>Calling the idea that the framework under we organize our entire society effects said society a "boogyman"Might as well say feudalism didn't affect thirteenth century France.
>>18407970>the war in iran is bad so you should tolerate faggotryDark woke thinks they can win white men over like this
>>18409265Good luck at the midterms bro.
>>18409414The opposition party has won the house every midterm for the past 20 years. The only question is will Obama's record of 62 seats lost in 2010 be broken?
>>18409414Your team is going to win and nothing is actually going to change for you because you spent years mischaracterizing political parties you don't actually know anything about just because they have the letter "R" next to their names on ballots.
>>18409418Oof, seems I stroke a nerve.
>>18409421No I'm being serious anon. Did you know the highest ranking openly gay official in US history was appointed by the Trump administration? Of course you don't, and neither do most supporters of the Orange Man. You let petty culture war bullshit get in the way of your actual judgement of policy and when it comes down to it, your entire broad generalization of a given presidential administration is down to either the letter "D" or the letter "R" next to their names on ballots. You're not an intelligent person. If anything you're just as dumb as the other team that you spend so much energy seething about
>>18409424>gay fascists exist so now fascist is fine
>>18409437If orange man is fascist then so is literally everyone in the white house before him. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he's doing is exceptional. Obama was also deporting illegals and waging war in the middle east.
>>18409439>turning away people before they cross the border is the same as sending gestapo thugs after peaceful communitiesObama refused to veto a UN security council vote declaring Israel's settlements illegal btw.
>>18409442>>turning away people before they cross the border is the same as sending gestapo thugs after peaceful communitiesIt sure isn't. Too bad ICE also existed when Obama was in office and too bad people were also being deported when he was in office. You are not an intelligent person. Your entire worldview is shaped by partisan signal boosting and all your responses are disingenuous. Your team will win and nothing will actually change for you but you don't actually care about policy, this entire thing is just about scoring a culture war victory. Go fuck yourself
>>18409445And there were protests against Obama's deportations too. But his ICE didn't cause chaos in local communities the way Trump's Gestapo does.
>>18409454You have no actual arguments, just weasel words. I'm done talking to you. You Well Poisoning Freak
>>18409456ICE agents didn't kill people under Obama.
>>18409459>There were 56 reported deaths of individuals in ICE custody during the Obama Administration.
>>18409460Most likely ICE under Obama actually went after criminals and not random people, including US citizens like Trump's Gestapo does.
>>18409421Its struck a nerve
