Does the West hate Muslims on an ideological level or on a racial level? Even Middle Eastern Non-Muslims get hated and racially profiled so i don't think Islam itself is the issue. Islam has its downsides but also contributed to humanity.
I dislike Islam because it's a violent, satanic, pedophilic inversion of Christianity. You deny the Christ, while worshipping multiple serial rapists and violent martyrs. You also rape. There's good reason the Templars were denounced for worshipping Mahomet and for their actions in the name of God, and there is good reason Christians barely even trust their own systems. You also pray in buttrape position to an idol that symbolizes Saturn, something even the Jews haven't worshipped outside of their most incestuous and evil sects in thousands of years. You are like if the Freemasons decided to bomb America in the name of Moloch Ba'al. Then you wonder why you are not trusted.
>>18407283i firmly believe if islam was predominantly practiced by blonde hair/blue eyed phenotypes, it would've been far more respected as a religionideally it would also be practiced by kawaii asians, but the netherlands doesn't nearly have as many indonesian immigrants as moroccans
>>18407283>Does the West hate Muslims on an ideological level or on a racial level?An ideological level primarily. Islam is viewed as the antithesis to Western values and its practice poses a physical danger to the safety of WesternersThe racial part comes from Muslims being disproportionately from brown races, causing the two to be conflated>>18407288If blonde-haired and blue-eyed Muslims acted the same as brown Muslims, Islam would still be hated regardless
>>18407283I hate Islam, because it's full of lies and deceitful nonsense. Read through these slowly - and remember just one mistake means it ain't from the big man upstairs.. Scientific errors in the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_QuranHistorical errors: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Historical_Errors_in_the_QuranContradictions in the Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_QuranScientific errors in the hadith: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Hadith Pre-destination in Islam: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:PredestinationScientific Miracles in The Qur'an: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Miracles_in_the_Quran
>>18407283Neither. It's based on propaganda
>>18407283>Wow, It's beautiful>Look up architect>Frenchhe, every fucking timeEvery time I've heard a christian speak it's about Love, it's a bit naive but eh whateverEvery time I hear a muslim speak it's basically "if it were not for Allah I'd be raping left and right, aah, I'm such a slave to my passions" it's basically a stupid fuck ass religion, maybe it could have ended up in a better place but right now it's just an overreaction and overnegation of the sensual manI'm don't fully understand how Christianity was actually lived in Europe throughout the ages, but the modern depictions of it make it seem much more balanced and reasonable
>>18407283It's ideological because they're beliefs are backwards and belong in the 12th century. But "hate" is a strong term, I don't think most normal well adjusted people genuinely hate Muslims they just don't want them coming to Western countries and then acting surprised that people people drink beer and women wear bikinis at the beach.
>>18407283Indians and Israelis are not Western.
>>18407314The one about the Israelites taking over Egypt after the exodus narrative is so bad. How is this religion taken seriously again?
>>18407283Racial level. To the extend that they're hated on a cultural level it's also because of aesthetic reasons, e.g. it just looks sad seeing women wrapped up in niqabs.>>18407305Now to be fair Bosniaks tend to be blonde/blue and they still get hate from Cro/Serb nationalists but this isn't really just because of Islam in and of itself, it's more because of territorial and historical reasons.
>>18407287Actually as a westerner I think we should reconsider what gets defined as "rape". Its certainly doing us no favors in the current situation.
>>18407283It's without a doubt racial. Western Christians are so racist even people sharing their own religion are looked down upon as subhuman who are not truly saved. What about those that are alien in other ways too? Don't forget, not too long ago people on this website were advocating for white sharia of all things. And when you talk to them long enough you'll always find out the core of their grievances is a fear of ethnic replacement. In reality the vast majority have no issues with the core teachings, yes even the distorted idea they have of them in their heads. They just hate the fact it came from a browner region of the world. And as a result of that they back project their hatred onto the ideology. Look at the first reply you just got for example. If we analyze every claim he has made (notice the shotgun tactic) you'll find that you can use most of the exact same criticisms onto his religion. And it would be just as accurate. In fact atheists on here do this every single time but when it comes to Islam suddenly all critical thinking stops and propaganda designed to manufacture consent for involvement in the middle east is absolutely factual
>>18407314But when making this very same arguments are used against christianity and the bible suddenly it's a misrepresentation and it's being taken out of context. Funny how that works.
>>18407283any religion can be used to justify awful shit, but at least with every religion other than Islam you can say the prophet was pure, it was the followers who corrupted that message in their pursuit of worldly power. But Mohamed was a warlord who either participated in or ordered at least 80 raids that we know of. A prophet should not be a mass murderer.
>>18407937Virtually every single judeochristian prophet were exponentially more wicked and murderous than Muhammad was who killed only combatants and in self defense
Is purely racial, when pope urban called the crusades he called Arabs and Persians foul races to be exterminated while comparing them to the superiority of the FrenchWhen MENA peoples understand the West is on a racial genocidal war against them is when we liberate ourselves
>>18407937Muhammad was not a mass murderer but Joshua, David, Moses and other judeochristian holy prophets certanly were
When the Crusades started, Christians had no idea what Muslims believed.Not that it mattered
>>18407288As White Europeans turned Christianity into a religion fit for the european racial spirituality, they would had done the same for Islam, by de-arabizing it. See Albania as an example
>>18408008>judeochristianNo such thing exist, like>Muhammad was who killed only combatants and in self defenseAh yes the hundreds of Mecca caravans he raided, killed and enslaved were trying to kill him, sure. Same for that tribe of which he ordered the death of all men
>>18408044The only thing wrong about judeochristian term is that is a pleonasm, christianity by itself is a shabbos goy death cultAnd yes, Muhammad only fought combatants, whereas the likes of Moses and Joshua slaughtered children for sport sparing only little girls to be used as sex slaves
>>18407930The Bible is also bullshit. What makes you think I'm a Christian?
>>18407283I don't have much else to offer by my opinion. In concept, what we all circle over and over again in every existing spiritual tradition is the problem of sacrifice. What Islam does with sacrifice is far nobler and more logical than what the pagan does. Also far more expedient than what Christianity does. At times I envy the simplicity and frankness of Islamic law. Islam is not like Judaism, which, no matter which branch or group among them, puts sacrifice at the very heart of their cosmos. Not even God at the center, just the sacrifice. It is greater than God to them. Judaism is the diametric opposite of Christianity, which, unconsciously and foolishly often forgets itself. I'll say no more to avoid getting off topic but, this is where the problem begins. Islam is not like some inverse or enemy of Christianity or the West... Yet history, selection (genetics), behavior and what we call ideology are all quite inseparable. Many attribute the problems of Islam to this or that, but, I think in a profound way that has rippled through time the biggest problem starts with Al-Ghazali. Not this descendant or that, or some theological disagreement among Muslims. It is this deliberate severance from the western (Hellenic) metaphysics that provided the substrate for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam in succession to grow on. It is the standardizing of foolhardy 80 IQ rape ape behavior since the 11th century that has put so much distance between Islam and greatness since.You have imposed this foolhardy *Arabic* supremacist labyrinth on yourselves, that flies in the face of your actual achievements. And in lands without that governing you by fear, submission and contempt, you don't know how to live or behave. So I will continue to deport as many non-whites (non-Christians, etc) as possible. Including Muslims of all races. Heh, nothing personal...
>>18408014>>18408053it's a fair point to say that prophets like Moses engaged in mass murder and sexual slavery of their enemies according to tradition, and the prophets of the prophetic books go on for literally hundreds of pages fantasizing about doing horrible things to Assyrians and Babylonians. But Jews don't venerate that, they accept it as an ugly and sad part of the tradition, from when the Hebrews were under the boot of extremely brutal early iron age empires, and fantasized about their prophets having been powerful enough to do the same to the Moabites. But Jews do not say "because Moses did this it's ok!"Islam is different because1. Mohamed was a real person who lived in the medieval period, not a legendary figure from the Bronze Age like Moses2. Muslims think Mohamed's violent example justifies violence today.
