America was NEVER a "Christian nation"https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/70319-as-the-government-of-the-united-states-of-america-is
>>18407331It's a de facto Christian nation, just like how English is the de facto official language of the U.S.
>>18407492If that wasn't what the founding fathers intended, no it isn't
>>18407331>>18407702The constitution should be read as strictly referring to the federal government, which is very at odds with modern interpretations applying all sorts of things to states. States could restrict your speech, endorse and discriminate against religions, regulate firearms alcohol and slavery, they even had their own racial quotas. It is a post-civil war idea that a blank slate of novus ordo seclorum was to be imposed on the whole nation. The inhabitants of the individual states were overwhelmingly white Christians, and their laws reflected that. The federal government was limited; the states were not. Extreme revisionism has been utilized to ignore these inconvenient facts.
>>18407331But it WAS a White nation
>>18407710America wasn't founded as a Nation, it was founded as a Federation. Land-owning whites were given privilege on a Federal Level but no State has ever been a white nation and by 1800 multiple states had already abolished slavery and allowed blacks to vote.
>>18407709The Constitution doesn't mean shit. Not even the people who wrote it agreed on what it meant. It was a collection of compromises and duct tape fixes meant to keep the 13 colonies from descending into anarchy. Many of its provisions are meant to handle extremely specific problems and contexts that no longer existed even ten years after it was signed. Take the Senate for example. The Senate is an archaic remnant of the nation originally being a loose alliance of de-facto independent countries, one of which (Virginia) had as much population as the 2nd and 3rd combined, and more than the entire bottom half combined. The Senate was a compromise to assure the other states that by joining a stronger more centralized Federal Government, that the they would not reduced to vassals of some kind of "Greater Virginia". While this compromise might have worked in getting everyone to sign on, it proved short sighted, as not only did Virginia quickly lose it's lead in population, but no single state ever gained such a one-sided lead over other states in population. While additionally the states gradually ceased to be truly sovereign, and peoples cultural and economic ties became more and more national/regional with no basis on state borders.Thus, bereft of it's original purpose, the Senate has basically functioned as a tool for big businesses and foreign funders like AIPAC to completely control the government through the ease of buying singular senate races in the multitude of underpopulated western states. They function in the same way as the "Rotten Boroughs" of pre 1832 Britain.
>>18407331>believing anything John "The Tyrant" Adams says at all.British double agent as far as I'm concerned
>>18407743Sure, what I'm saying is if you travelled back in time to 1776 and told even the socially progressive framers of the constitution that it was going to be interpreted as some postmodern abolition of European civilization they would have recoiled in horror (or not if you were an actual racial and civilizational cuckhold, like many of the abolitionists actually were). It is extremely cynical to say that if you completely replaced the population of the US with muslims, as OPs picrel seems to suggest, that the framers would envision the federal secular republic as continuing to exist as a political abstraction. The religion and culture of European migrants to America was meant to be maintained at the state level, sometimes even ruthlessly, and when you read the no religious test clause in the constitution, it would be idiotic to read that in the 2026 sense as "America is open to all religions".
>>18407702>actually the founders would've been cool with everyone speaking swahili and being replaced by indians
>>18407736White federation
He only said that because he didn't ever have to live next to muslims
No country can be Christian when it was incorporated and founded by people who openly worship a demon spider with three heads called Bael (public FACT!!!). You cannot serve two masters. Freemasons worship demons and Lucifer (Albert Pike, 33rd degree scottish rite mason- Manly Hall, 33rd degree scottish rite. The founding fathers, most US presidents and actors, and most local police and politicians for hundreds of years under everyone's noses been in an occult worshipping mafia.>But HOWWW could they POSSIBLY get away with something on that scale?Probably because they've always been financially backed by the richest businessmen on Earth, and the richest Jews on Earth. If you want to be 1984'd fast in America talk about the Freemasons too much in public or on air, even if they are incontrovertible and innocent facts about their secret groups. Like the already stated fact that they worship Lucifer, or one. Not just stated by two Masons, no. Far from it. Try millions, and proudly, over the entire course of the last few hundred years. If you want to make America great again: you look into the Foundations, Fraternities, Architecture, and Energy. All of those things are deeply, intrinsically historically connected. Everyone in America and the UK is too much of a pissant bitch to admit that they are stuck in a ponzi scheme system by Masonic organizations. FACT!
>>18407775>abolition of European civilization>completely replaced the population of the US with muslims
>>18407805Literally anyone can become a Mason you fucking retard. It's not some exclusive club for the rich, you just need to be someone of good character who isn't an atheist.
>>18407702>the founders are the arbitrers of americaNo they weren't. A piece of paper and a few people did not create or define America out of thin air. America was present for over a century by 1776.
>>18407813Did I say they were exclusive? No, but you are joining an openly Satanic group who worships money, which is the opposite of what a Christian is. Silly billy.
>>18407806>don't talk in theoretical that's dishonest>but what if a homosexual really really really really needs to be gay because he'll literally die if he doesn't or a baby will be dropped in a volcano? would homosexuality be wrong then?
>>18407813It just so happens that most of the West's politicians are historically members of fraternities. You have to be childishly naive. These people were formed by Jesuits and Templars and backed by families like the Rothschilds.
>>18407827>It just so happens that most of the West's politicians are historically members of fraternities.People who have shared political ideas eing in fraternities??? Woa man stop the fucking presses! Like over half of British politicians are members of Men's Clubs in London but you never hear any conspiracy theories about them.Anti-Masonism was a psyop created by the Catholic Church because the Scottish Rite was anti-Trinitarian. You're falling for a centuries old Psyop that's been regurgitated by the fucking History Channel.
>>18407827It shows that fraternities are very effective, that's all. The first KKK started as a fraternity, and it too proved to be very effective.
>>18407833Yeah it's like, why would the people who all know each other and went to school together and are part of the same social class NOT have a clubhouse? You go with your mates to the pub, they go with their mates to the lodge. They only "conspire" in the way any group of people with shared interests conspire (it's called class interests, and theirs aren't yours). Conspiracy theories of this type are just ways for die-hard believers in capitalism who are unable to reconcile the fact that the bourgeois are doing exactly what Capitalism says they should do, but it's having bad effects, when the die-hard believer was assured that everyone doing exactly what Capitalism says they should do will only have good effects.
>>18407851Which one is it? Is religion conducive to proper labor relations or destructive? Because it seems that religion and traditional organization is an idyllic preindustrial state when you want it to be and an oppressive opium of the masses when it's inconvenient. How lucky I am that historical materialism is the true lense of understanding the world that isn't being used to manipulate ME at all, and that really when all the elite get together all they're talking about it how much money they're going to get before they die and face eternal nothingness just like the rest of us, with no spiritual overtones at all.
>>18407859Yeah no one was ever fucking greedy in history before. They totally cut my pay because Baal told them too, not because they pocketed the money.
>>18407861And the way we combat greed and human nature is by ... eradicating traditional religion even though it doesn't matter but is simultaneously the lynchpin around which our post religious philosophy functions. Ok
>>18407859Materialism is the entire masonic system. You eat, drink, watch, work for, and listen to masonic shit every single day. It's either that, or Catholic, and all the other competing smaller groups do the same evils to you and to the innocent. They rationalize this as moral subjectivity and innocent behavior for the elites. They rationalize it as if it isn't happening in front of their very faces every day. When a large portion of my very own country is being flooded with opioids and other fatal drugs by my very own government, people disappear off the streets, and my taxes go to nothing but war and the rich, and I take issue with such I am ridiculed. They wish to belittle all who question their Satanic system. All selfish materialism is Satanism. All selfish materialism is Satanism.
>>18407861False dichotomy. Besides, you pose as if this is not what they admit to.
