>>18408030Yes, though they're seen as far worse than that.
>>18408030such beings do not exist
>>18408030They are the retards, since the quran says to follow the sunnah.
>>18408043The Quran says it is complete and perfect.
>>18408047...and it says to follow the sunnah.>Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah oftenhttps://quran.com/al-ahzab/21
>>18408050I have no guarantee that anything other than the Quran is correct and perfectly preserved.
>>18408052So quranists don't follow the example of Muhammad then.
>>18408057So basically the same as Christians? I think that's the real truth. Most Muslims just want to live their life and pay lip service to Allah same as western Christians
>>18408030They're rare in the wild and are mostly seen online, so basically the average American Larpthodox.
>>18408030Who gives a shit about a bunch of pedophilia advocates? At the end of the day their prophet got gangbanged by the Al Zutt and their Quran is 100% man made.Did Aisha (9 year old victim of Muhammad's rape) suggest the muslim to touch Allah's stone vagina on the Kabah? Make sense, at the end of the day I too would troll the muslims after being raped by one of them.
>>18408050To follow his example is not to treat records of him as a second Quran, as the Quran is complete. If you must rely on unreliable second hand hearsay, you admit to yourself that the Quran is in fact not complete and lacking and also treat authors like Bukhari as prophets themselves with the faith you put into their words.
>>18408030Qur'an-centric rather than Qur'an-only is the rational position. i.e you accept those hadith narrations that don't contradict the narrative and legal rulings of the Qur'an.
In some respect, yes.Salafis are also the Protestants of the Muslim world.
>>18408047He's right...
>>18408990>i.e you accept those hadith narrations that don't contradict the narrative and legal rulings of the Qur'an.that's sunni/orthodoxy though
>>18409376Then why was the law of apostacy included in the sahih Hadiths? Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) never killed anyone solely for changing, or leaving their religion. And in the Qur'an, there's only punishment in the afterlife for apostacy.Yet in the Hadiths it saysSahih al-Bukhari: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him."A lot of traditional sunni scholars view this at face value. Qur'an-centric ones contextualise it, because it goes against the teachings of the Qur'an and hence can't be accepted at face value. They say this was specifically tied to political rebellions, like the later ridda wars.The quotes from quran>Qur'an 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion">Qur'an 18:29 -"And say, ˹This is˺ the truth from your Lord. Whoever wills let them believe, and whoever wills let them disbelieve.>Qur'an 88:21-22-"You are only a reminder; you are not a controller over them.">Qur'an 2:217- "Whoever among you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever-their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter" >Qur'an 4:137 - "Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief- Allah will not forgive them…"So, in the Qur'an people believe and disbelieve repeatedly, but the punishment is never death.
