Greek is a modern LARP ethnicity invented to scam money out of Westerners. Nobody had been a "Hellene" for millenia by the time they decided to push this meme.
>>18408090By keeping classical Greece alive in our hearts we honor her memory. All of west European is kin to this heritage. My mom was one of the darker ethnic French people. I like to think that I am descended from the Ancient Greeks who settled Marseillaise and other towns in France and am kin to Achilles, Socrates, Aristotle and all the greats if you go back far enough.
>>18408090The Ancient Greek blood has been heavily diluted by the Slavs, and more importantly, the Near Easteners. There might be some individual remnants in Greece, who are 100% of Greek origin, but the chance is low.
>>18408090>>18408102And here's the timeline of when it happened.
>>18408090Are you Albanian or Turk? Which is it? Hang on, let me check, ahem "Alexander the Great was Greek".
>>18408105I wish the plot included the explained variance of each axis. PCA plots without explained variance are not as informative.
>>18408106OP could be your average run out of the mill nordicist, man. Turkroaches and Albanians can be those things, but it's a common sentiment among current dissident rightoids.
>>18408090It is well know modern Greece is a LARP project. Outside specific zones like the Mani Peninsula, most of greeks are actually unholy mutts with mixed ancient greek, anatolian, roman, slavic, albanian (arvanites) Italians AND Turks genes
>>18408105>>18408390>explained variance of each axisWhat do you mean by that?
>>18408106I think he’s referring to the fact that even after the fall of Constantinople in 1453, many Greek-speaking Christians continued to identify as Roman well into the 20th century. For example, when the island of Letmos was taken from the Ottomans by Greece in 1912, Greek soldiers were sent to each village and stationed themselves in the public squares. Some of the island children ran to see what Greek soldiers looked like. ‘'What are you looking at?’’ one of the soldiers asked. ‘'At Hellenes,’’ the children replied. ‘'Are you not Hellenes yourselves?’’ the soldier retorted. ‘'No, we are Romans,’’ the children replied.
>>18408481PCA decomposes the variance of a dataset into principal components. The components are ranked according to the percentage of the total variance they explain. In PCA plots such as the one you posted, the two first principal components are mapped, the first along the x-axis and the second along the y-axis. In general because PC1 explains a higher percentage of the total variance than PC2, that means that the same distance along the x-axis is more important than along the y-axis. In other words, samples that cluster vertically (have similar x-axis coordinate, but varying y) are more similar than samples that cluster horizontally (similar y-axis coordinate, but varying x).It is commonly considered good practice to also include the explained variance of each axis, so that for example below the X axis you read PC1 Explained variance 50% and next to the y-axis explained PC2 variance 10%. It gives an idea about the significance of the distances on the plot and how similar things are. You can still infer things as it is, but it's better for interpretability to incluse the explained variance of the components.
>>18408485Cute Facebook story.
>>18408102According to this model, most regions are still over 50% though. Compare how "Italic", "Germanic", "Slavic", "Finnic" etc. various European ethnicities are and you will get similar results, with few exceptions.P.S. Using just one ancient (specifically bronze age) Greek sample to capture the entire diversity does not make much sense, and I have a suspicion that Poland/France and Armenia/Jordan sort of "counterbalance" each other, possibly giving erroneous results (still somewhat unavoidable, perhaps, with the currently available tools)
>>18408460>albanian*albanic, since the national identity formed by most albanian speakers post-dates arvanitic migrationsA mix of Hellenic, Illyrian, Paeonian, Slavic, Roman, Anatolian>anatolianYes, but blown out of proportion due to mixed anatolian-greek samples from coastal areas being considered 100% Hittite or something>romanYes, but not very significant, and also mixed with Greek (+ Anatolian)>slavicOk>Italianscould be counted together with Romans, still quite a small influence mainly found in specific areas>TurksNot really, even Turks from most areas of Greece barely have any Turkic ancestryBy the way, you forgot the trace amounts of Levantine, Scythian, Gothic/Varangian and Armenian/Mesopotamian.
I forgot to mention Thracians, whose influence in Northern/Northeastern Greece is very significant, since they were the native pre-Greek population in some regions
