How come every former region of the ottoman empire including turkey is a shithole?
>>18408108Coincidence.
>>18408108Greece is nice. I've been there. Specially the Northern regions. The places without non-Greeks are very nice and lovely. Like Litichoro or Meteora.
Purely socioeconomic factors
>>18408108It's the Muslim culture in those countries (except for Greece and Israel).
>>18408108Greatness does not owe anything to the future.
>>18408289The Byzantine system was demonstrably out of date by the 1000s, as well. This is why a bunch of Norman pirates were able to steal Sicily and a lot of Greece from under them.The Ottomans took over the Byzantine apparatus and, you'll note, only got back the easy pickings of the Balkans and north Africa. And that, just because the French, English, and Hungarians were playing political games against one another.
