So in the Bible they were baptizing anyone who wanted to be baptized immediately but I have to wait 9 months before I can be baptized by the Catholic Church? A baby is somehow more able to consent to baptism than an adult man interested in your religion? And apparently baptism is necessary to salvation? Why do they gate keep it then?
>>18408681Looked it up and of course, we have Vatican II to thank for it.
>>18408707Also, if you ever wondered why the priest prays away from the high altar, prays in your local language instead of latin, stopped criticizing judaism and started justifying it, stopped endorsing the doctrines of state-mandated religion and there being no salvation outside of the church, look towards the Second Vatican Council.
>>18408681Yeah they baptizing jews and Jewish converts. You dont know the faith so you need to learn it.
>My faith is something I have to put time and effort into and not a pair of skinny jeans I can throw away in 6 months time?!?! WTF!!!!You'll be a Hindu in a years time when that's to cool new edge lord religion.
Don't new converts get baptism, first eucharist and confirmation all in one? Of course it takes time.
>>18408681If you were really interested in the religion, you wouldn't be bothered about having to study it at RCIA classes before baptism. If you die or something prior to baptism while in RCIA, you still have a chance at salvation through baptism by desire.
>>18408681Just become a brigand and get crucified and be baptized by faith and get a free ticket to heaven, no getting wet or catechesis required.
>>18408725the carholic church, like all multinational corporations, is run for the benefit of its owners and managerial class. if those guys, in their infinite wisdom/guided by the holy ghost decided that ditching some unimportant principles (as all of them are) was the price of keeping the business running, who are you to object? if an organization called 'the catholic church' could only continue to exist with these guys on the top if it adopted worship of trannies and support of abortion, how long do you think it would take to convene a Vatican III and adopt those measures? note that the sheeple went along with bith the suppression of the modernists and their triumph at Vatican II without a peep, and they would continue to do so.
>>18408735>>18408835okay but what if someone dies during the waiting period? Aren't you sending them to hell or purgatory instead of heaven?It's reasonable to demand commitment from converts but that shouldn't get in the way of giving them eternal lifet. non-Christian so might've misunderstood this part
>>18409227What commitment would you demand then?
>>18408735You don't show that same energy towards unrepentant sodomizers.
>>18409243>the Catholic church doesn't try to get sinners to repentOk buddy. Praise Visnu.
>>18409227I answered that. Baptism by desire.
>>18409227Rome has abandoned the doctrine of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus in all but name and thinks every Muslim, pagan or atheist who "eagerly seeks God", even if he does not believe in any Catholic dogma, are likely to be saved. You've got no worries.
>>18409243Why do you care so much more about gays than people who mix fabrics or eat shellfish?Why do you need to LARP as a tradcath to justify your hatreds?
