What do we know about them? Linguistically, archaeologically, etc. I recently read that their presence has been proven in places as far away as Britain. I've always found them interesting, but there's a lot of feminist crap
>>18408838Nobody knows what their language was like, but a guy in a thread showed that they referred to themselves as "Aryans" and it seems they had close contact with the Goths
>>18408838Good thread Sarmatian clothing:
>>18408838The idea that they were egalitarian and lived a liberal dream of Hollywood warrior women stems from exaggerations, lies, fantasies, and a Greek misinterpretation. Single-parent analyses show that they were patrilineal like any other.>>18408843Kino.
>>18408843Not only with gothsThey reached France
>>1840885320% of all Sarmatian graves with weapons or of a military nature are females In some kurgans females is placed in the central position and are the richest in terms of treasures buried with themSome researchers speculate that a form of matriarchy existed among some clans
>>18408869Yes, none of the feminist women who larp as "empowered warrior Sarmatian" nonsense believe that. Nice try.More cringe than males
>>18408869>20% of all Sarmatian graves with weapons or of a military nature are femalesPlease, sources
>>18408877>>18408876Cunliffe, Barry. The Scythians (p. 219)BtfoWe can wage war, we have limitations, yes, like force, but women can fight.
>>18408876Women try to copy men in everything Sad beings>>18408869But we cannot ignore that there were many ritualistic burials, and even among Germanic peoples, sometimes a woman was killed and placed in a warrior's tomb.
Sarmatians were the western Scythians, an Iranic people.Sarmatians inhabited Eastern Europe.
>>18408838>What do we know about them?That they were vanquished by Asiatic Huns and Turks.
They became Slavs
>>18409780Slavs are linguistically related to Baltic peoples, not Persians.
>>18408869>Woman buried with her father/brother/husband/son armies>Modern historians "OMG this is the prove they were progressive equalitarian femminist!!!! Nazis BTFO!!11!
>>18409783Poland nobility always claimed to be descendant of sarmatian conquerors that ruled over the masses of proto-slavic farmers; they even tried to copy their supposed attires, especially during the 16th-17th Centuries
idk i just know that turks, avars, huns brought sarmatian-scythian genes to europe and now people are larping as them kek. their genes were diluted because Central Asia became the home of the Mongols
>>18409783Yeah but they absorbed eastern germanics and sarmatians/scythians.
>>18408838my ancestors :)
>>18409905They weren't Europeans, but ugly tajiks
>>18409668No. Just look at modern tajiks
They were troons
>>18408880Please, marry me.
>>18408838interesting thing about them is that the samples found in kurgans really closely resemble the pontid phenotypehttp://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html
>>18409801This is the core issue. How someone is buried simply says how they're buried, not much else and extrapolating more from it is stupid.>Concubine of a warrior dies>Warrior throws something of value into the grave, eg. his weapons or armor>Woman dies violently>Is buried with weapons to protect herself in the afterlife>Women are trained and armed for defense of the home when men are away>The weapons to protect their children and home are buried with them even if they were a far cry from true warriorsIf you saw someone who was buried with bread you wouldn't assume they were a baker, if you saw someone buried with honey you wouldn't extrapolate that they were a healer who used honey in balms and poultices. They could just be seen as necessities of the afterlife "afterlife can be rough, here's a sword to protect yourself" or "gotta eat in the afterlife, here's some bread."
>>18410735Shitty BlogspotKys
>>18410855>Women are trained and armed for defense of the home when men are awayAnd not happened
>>18410855>>18409801>>18408880>>18408869Why does this retarded argument assume that all men, absolutely all of them, would be "out of the house" for some reason? The Romans almost lost their entire male population in the Punic Wars, and women weren't taught to use weapons, by the way. Producing weapons and training people to use them required more time than everyone was willing to dedicate. The truth is, you're all wrong. The Scythians and other warrior groups had a custom: when a great person died, they would kill a female slave or wife and bury her next to him. The majority of skeletons don't survive, so you would occasionally find female remains in a warrior's grave. It's very simple. Very simpleNothing to do with le roast warrior or le roast with weapons n shuet
>>18410867Ibn Fadlan is a rat who lied shamelessly, yes, but that's no reason to trust generic opinions from 4chan. Here's a very similar, if not identical, Viking custom. This is probably a tradition inherited from the PIE Steppe There's the same with some Yamnaya
>>18410865Yes. Pretty retard take
There is variance in preservation and there is also the question of whatever everything in a burial site was found. I bet mistakes in assessments are more common than the scythians sending 13 years old girls into battle.
>>18410865And your source is? Again I'm stating it as one of several theoretical reasonings. My point isn't "this totally happened bro" my point is "there are reasons for women to be buried with weapons beyond being fully trained professional warriors who fought alongside men." The only extrapolation one should make upon finding graves of women with weapons and armour is "this woman probably was buried with weapons and armour."
>>18410925The other anon already humiliated you, I don't need to say anything. You just created a fanfic out of your ignorance, and the burden of proof is on you. Your point sucks
>>18410867You don't need absolutely all of them, you need the head of the household. Plenty of women today train with guns, not because they're navy seal tier elite commando operators, but because it's nice to have a gun if someone breaks into your house while your husband is at work or visiting his sick mother or whatever. Defending hearth and home doesn't make one part of a militia and having an axe or a knife, or pistol for home defense doesn't mean you you were a soldier.
>>18410930>Noooo I don't need to prove my baseless claims
>>18410938BSYou refuse to understand because you're clinging to your favorite "theory." But the problem is that the premise is false. It's already been proven what these tombs are, and there's no need to invent or imagine what they could be. Otherwise, you must necessarily show evidence that proves the opposite. I've shown sources, and you guys?Women weren't the "defenders of society" when men were away, and if you think about it for a moment, it would have the opposite effect. Do you deny that men and women have different muscle and bone mass and that this directly impacts the handling of weapons? If the answer is no, then know that this is one of the main reasons why women didn't fight in wars. And when I said that the effect would be the opposite, it's mainly because their enemies would know that only women would be "defending" the land, without men, so they would endeavor to attack the place. And what do you think the result would be? I'll tell you what the result would be.Related photo >the reason for the massacre is unknown, it is possible that it was related to the expansion of the Corded Pottery groups, which may have resulted in violent conflicts>All individuals had been brutally killed by blows to the headMostly women.the reason for the massacre is unknown, it is possible that it was related to the expansion of the Corded Pottery groups, which may have resulted in violent conflicts" "All individuals had been brutally killed by blows to the head"
>>18411334>>18410938And since I know you'll still stick with this personal hypothesis, there's a much more practical example here. I don't think it's necessary for me to say anything. This doesn't work, but it's avoiding the issue at hand. These tombs are not those of female warriors, but they could be 1)>>18410867an ancient tradition shared by warrior groups or 2)>>18410878 a case of mistaken identitycaes.gal.4.15":>The Germans when, upon hearing a noise behind them, [they looked and] saw that their families were being slain, throwing away their arms and abandoning their standards, fled out of the camp, and when they had arrived at the confluence of the Meuse and the Rhine, the survivors despairing of further escape, as a great number of their countrymen had been killed, threw themselves into the river and there perished, overcome by fear, fatigue, and the violence of the stream. Our soldiers, after the alarm of so great a war, for the number of the enemy amounted to 430,000, returned to their camp, all safe to a man, very few being even wounded. Caesar granted those whom he had detained in the camp liberty of departing. They however, dreading revenge and torture from the Gauls, whose lands they had harassed, said that they desired to remain with him. Caesar granted them permission.https://web.archive.org/web/20150115204503/http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=CaeComm.sgm&images=images%2Fmodeng&data=%2Ftexts%2Fenglish%2Fmodeng%2Fparsed&tag=public&part=1&division=div1
>>18411334See how the transvestite changed the discourse and backtracked; before, it was women who defended the place when there were no men, now it's at home, haha.
