Where did the hippies come from, exactly? Something started this all off but I'm not sure where.
>>18409077Hippies originated from the anti-war movement after it got infiltrated by MKULTRA agents to make anyone who opposed dying in Vietnam look like an unemployed drug addict. Modern hippies don’t even know their existence is a government psyop
>>18409077CIA and Frankfurt School. Also Jewish record labels. It was first and foremost a musical scene
>"The CIA made me fry my brains with failed truth serum chemicals o algo"
The whole hippie "Flower Power" aesthetic was inspired by late 19th and early 20th century American Bohemianism, which in turn probably has roots in transcendentalism. The hippie movements were still youth movements at their core though, which meant all the bohemian shit was just a springboard for doing drugs and having a lot of sex under the guise of returning to a more primitive and sincere time. This is also likely what inspired a lot of the drug use of this time as well, which was likewise inspired by 19th century psychonauts like Fitz Hugh Ludlow. You have to keep in mind that most of these hippies were College Students. From this perspective you can argue that the hippies were ultimately a response to 50s Cold War tension and paranoia that brought a layer of cynicism to western politics and culture, which in a way echoed the later "New Sincerity" movements of the 90s and 2000s as a response to Postmodernism. >>18409126>>18409155Generalizing an extremely broad social movement down to a faceless scapegoat is a symptom of lower cognitive function by the way
>>18409256>Generalizing an extremely broad social movement down to a faceless scapegoat is a symptom of lower cognitive function by the wayid agree with you if my pattern recognition wasn't so high
>>18409434>pattern recognitionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia>Apophenia (/æpoʊˈfiːniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things.[2]>The term (German: Apophänie from the Greek verb: ἀποφαίνειν, romanized: apophaínein) was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia.[3] Anon, what you're describing is LITERALLY a symptom of lower cognitive function.
>>18409436Yes anons your pattern recognition is schizophrenia dont trust your lying eyes everything is kosher pic related another propped up group used to divide and conquer the masses in a false dialectic to distract from real issues like financial disparity and government corruption
>>18409443Ever consider the possibility that these groups are just a response to things like financial disparity?
but ayy just keep taking those"fell for it again" awards
>>18409451no because im not a moron and can tell a genuine movement like occupy wallstreet from government propaganda dressed up as organic populism BLM: Funding was extremely misappropriated and then disappeared also one of the main founders was a jewish activist if that matters Proud Boys: Another group that disappeared after being propped up Leader was outed for working with the CIA as an informant and joked about how much money he was making selling bullshit aka merch to people
>>18409461>no because im not a moron and can tell a genuine movement like occupy wallstreet from government propaganda dressed up as organic populism So why exactly do you think the hippie movement represents the ladder and not the former? It was a movement that lasted well into the 1970s. Seems fairly organic to me. You didn't forget what this threads topic was in the midst of your schizophrenic attempt at derailing it did you?
>>18409461>no because im not a moron and can tell a genuine movement like occupy wallstreet from government propaganda dressed up as organic populismYeah, Occupy Wall Street was an authentic movement led by literal leftist extremists some of whom literally committed terrorist acts before, but you read online that they were le based and that the big banks caused them to collapse by distracting people with "culture war", and everyone knows that cultural issues are completely meaningless right? Just like how JFK wanted to inspect Israeli nuclear facilities so he was le based even though he championed desegregation.
>>18409077Drugs and music anon. Also the pill but mostly drugs and music. Of course there are other underlying factors like the rise of mass consumerism and the war but if you stray beyond drugs and music you will fail to understand the hippies They were the first ever generation of young people (baring in mind they were among the very first teenagers) to have access to drugs and music (about fucking and doing drugs) whilst also being able to have sex with contraceptives and you have something entirely new. You have the first generation who ask themselves 'why would I want to go to work when i can just hang out with my friends, do drugs and listen to music?' which is difficult to answer and society has struggled to answer that question ever since.
>>18409463How exactly was what I said derailing or schizophrenicNice deflection thoughThe government’s involvement in psychedelic experimentation and its intersection with the hippie movement is a matter of public recordIt’s also historically clear that prior to the rise of that counterculture anti war sentiment was largely associated with respectable members of society people with stable jobs and familiesThat perception shifted dramatically once the movement was culturally rebrandedAnd the formula is pretty simpleFabricate a cause, rally the masses (cattle) around itThen convince business interests they can profit from it, and they’ll amplify the narrative through marketing perpetuating the movement for you until they can no longer profit from it >>18409466Anon how large is your nose? I cant even tell the point you're trying to make. You just seem mad >>18409469>They were the first ever generation of young people (baring in mind they were among the very first teenagers) to have access to drugs and music (about fucking and doing drugs) whilst also being able to have sex with contraceptives and you have something entirely new. You have the first generation who ask themselves 'why would I want to go to work when i can just hang out with my friends, do drugs and listen to music?' which is difficult to answer and society has struggled to answer that question ever since.anon you really shouldn't be on /his/ if you think this is true makes me wonder if youre the same anon i am speaking to above and youre just saying random stupid shit to cause drama you can then feed off of
>>18409077Why are you all so uneducated? It was invented by Vic Lovell and popularized by Ken Kesey after he got MKULTRA'd by Lovell.
>>18409503"To Vik Lovell, who told me dragons did not exist, then led me to their lairs." - Ken Kesey
>>18409463the lab that produced the most acid for mkultra was located in the haight-ashbury district, arguably the epicenter of the hippies. timothy leary was a victim of mkultra/a probable government informant himself. so many of the famous hippie musicians (joan baez, jimi hendrix, frank zappa) had parents with deep military and government connections. the cia was reading foucault and poststructuralism has been commonplace reading on campuses ever since. the hippies don't even seem that organic either, if you look at them just on the surface. ppl forget that most of the 60s was just an extension of the 50s in terms of lifestyle, most of the civil rights activists led pretty conformist lives. then out of nowhere there's this huge change in '68. the hippies were pretty obviously a covert psyop that gelded the New Left from fighting on any constructive worker's rights issue and focusing on achieving aims like free love or gay rights, both of which can be adopted by the state pretty easily.
>>18409256You can trace the lineage of hippies back through American counterculture movements in the mid 19th century. Sex, drugs, communal living, Eastern mysticism, eccentric dress, art as religion—all of these things were present but only in bohemian subcultures that made up a tiny fraction of the population. The 1920s was the first era where this kind of thing went mainstream among young people but it was the 60s where the huge demographic of boomer kids combined with material comfort and Cold War angst made bohemian youth culture go mainstream. Beatniks were the immediate precursors of hippies and figures like Allen Ginsberg and Gary Snyder were part of the first hippie movement in the Bay Area. Later hippie crap seems like mass consoomerism but those OG hippies were interesting, with Edwardian thrift store style, a real interest in literature and spirituality, mising folk music with early rock, and using drugs as a quest rather than just being stoned sheep. By the 70s hippies were just conformist youth culture and it sparked the aggro black leather punk backlash.
>>18409589>huge demographic of boomer kids combined with material comfort and Cold War angstTelevision, and the pill. That's all there's to it.
>>18409513>the lab that produced the most acid for mkultra was located in the haight-ashbury districtSource?
>>18409593>we can have sex without getting pregnant now>let's destroy 2000 years of civilizationI think the mass lead poisoning is half the story
>>18409633Why was drugs all they cared about? They could have had a youth culture centered around sex not drugs. Seems kinda weird
>>18409633he's also ignoring mass contraception and all the means towards it used in the pastgoing to church use to mean going to an orgy back in the day he is correct on programming being used to well program
>>18409640Because the CIA discovered that LSD isn't very useful as a truth syrum/brainwashing agent But that it can be used to bootstrap a controlled opposition counter culture to reinvent the American narrative and liberal branding via charismatic leaders with "magical potions" that give glimpses of the divine Keep in mind this isn't the first time psychedelics and sex "free love" have been used by government agencies to control the populace ya'll on /his/ not know shit about /his/
>>18409659imagine it was the same charasmatic leaders but they're handing out birth control
>>18409678Anon use of birth control dates back to 1850bc and prior I get you have some sort of cath-cuck puritan view of history but you really should look into the foundation of civilization money and language and branch out from there
Hell Egyptians and Romans used Silphium a plant for contraception and abortion into its extinction
>>18409687No, just imagine what could have been if the culture was about COCP and not LSD.
>>18409077Baby Boomers LARPing Beatniks. In the 40-60s, the US was transforming from an industrial society to a post-industrial society. There was a baby boom, which is why we call boomers what they are, and there was rapidly increasing affluence which meant this generation's expectations were higher than their parents who lived through Great Depression and a World War. They were the first generation to be raised on television, who bombarded them with advertisements, more than previous generations, along the Silent Generation who beat them for ever fucking up but also spoiled them rotten with TV and gifts they didn’t have to earn. This gave warped ideas of what love is as well as a massive sense of entitlement. They see their kids as competition not their legacy. They largely lived in suburbs, which were absolutely brand new at the time. By the time they got to be their late teens they realized how fake and manufactured so much of society is, including their opinions.But the TV began showing them different images from the American Dream. Cold War events such as the Korean War, Montgomery Bus Boycott, Little Rock Integration Crisis, Cuban Missile Crisis, Assassination of John F. Kennedy, March on Washington, Vietnam War, Watts Riots, Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., Long, hot summer of 1967, Kent State Shootings, etc... was a bucket of cold water on the generation that lived in the most prosperous era of the 20th century. There was a mismatch between their expectations and the reality they were seeing with their eyes. Then the more intellectual ones (and some elite intellectuals) tapped into the ideological resources provided by the Beatniks of the 1950s who idealized rebels.The Beatniks were middle-class White Americans intellectuals who emulated the lifestyles of Negro Jazz Musicians (bohemianism, drugs, hedonism, etc... search for Harry J. Anslinger to see how they were viewed by American society in the first half of the 20th century).
>>18409776Beatnik lifestyle was, for them, an existentialist rejection of society. But Beatniks didn't try to change society through politics unlike Hippies.Despite the influence of the Frankfurt School on the New Left, I think the Baby Boomer Hippie Zeitgeist can be better understood through another Freudian thinker.Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud (patron of the Tavistock Clinic) and great-uncle of Marc Randolph (co-founder and first CEO of Netflix), was the Father of Mass Media, Propaganda and Public Opinion who created the marriage of capitalist consumist marketing with socially progressive advertisements using Psychoanalysis (he worked on the Philip Morris campaign promoting cigarettes as "Torches of Liberty" for women and successfully hosted the first NAACP convention in Atlanta, Georgia) while waging psychological warfare for the CIA United Fruit Company in Guatemala.The American boomer is the first openly consumerist generation in the United States. It seems strange today, with all the Bigger is better, American memes, but frugality and prudence were the traditional values of Americans for the longest period of time. One could live poor, but if he lived within his means and worked a man could be respected. It was only in the excess of the boomer era, born of the hard work put in by the Silent Generation during the War and years afterwards, did mass consumerism truly come into the forefront.
>>18409787Things that were once considered luxuries to their parents and treated as such, suburban housing, higher education, cars, electronics, retirement plans, and government benefits, became expectations. And because they became expectations, if one did not have them, a person was suddenly considered a lazy, and unworthy of respect. This caused Boomers to begin going into debt constantly in order to maintain appearances, and afford the lifestyle which a consumerist society expected of them.Constant debt means, that in times of economic distress, not only is the economic strain is felt much more acutely, but also leads to much more frequent and much worse economic contraction. This of course led to the government constantly resorting to deficit spending, and the Federal Reserve to take far more active roles in the markets in order to keep the economy afloat, lest the day of reckoning come for their main voting base. It is impressive that their consumerist profligacy, has managed to be kept at bay for almost the entirety of their adult lives, because of this it will be another generation that pays for it, lest they face total collapse of the system.
>>18409640There was plenty of sex too but I think they wanted it all which was their downfall.
>>18409948They had so much unprotected sex that it created antibiotic resistant STDs and AIDSPeople forget that going into the 60s most STDs were seen as being on the cusp of elimination due to antibiotics and the combination of the pill and the lack of STDs allowed them to practice their free love beliefs that had been proposed in the past but were up to then ridiculed for their impracticality
>>18410186LMAO the glow faggot spamming the thread with chatgpt bullshit to distract from the fact that the hippies where a controlled op is now saying that the hippies created aidswhats next did the hippies also infiltrate black neighborhoods with crack and glorified violence through mediaall those hippie owned media companies sure did a number on black communities
>>18410880Ok, squizo.
>>18411694NTA But since he mentions this bullshit.>hippies where a controlled opAgainst the USSR. Hippies (and earlier beatniks) were pushed as ways to corrupt left opposition in the United States. >Between 1943 and 1950, Marcuse worked in US government service for the OSS (Office of Strategic Services, predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA) where he criticized the ideology of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the book Soviet Marxism: A Critical Analysis (1958). In the 1960s and the 1970s he became known as the preeminent theorist of the New Left and the student movements of West Germany, France, and the United States; some consider him "the Father of the New Left"The New Left transformed the Class Struggle adapted to the Identity Mentality, that is, it is no longer fomenting and agitating the division and antagonism between rich (bourgeois) and poor (proletarian), but between everything and everyone, but always from the perspective of oppressor x oppressed (man x woman, white x black, straight x gay, etc, literally the Lumpenproletariat in Communism, considered by Marx as social scum that are more easily manipulated by Capitalists to undermine the Revolution). Literally Divide and Conquer. Many highly visible members of those movements had intelligence connections but even those that didn't helped to steer movements away from revolutionary struggle and into individualist concerns. As much as mainstream figures may have complained about hippies being "commies," their visibility in the New Left was a victory for anticommunism just like Social Fascism (as the Soviets called Social Democracy) was.
>>18411729Within the public facing US gov the 60s was the last consolidation of power before the rise of neoliberalism. The deep state was riding high from the JFK assassination and followed it up with one last grand gesture when they hung Nixon out to dry just so a CIA op didn't get revealed in the press (read Hougan's Secret Agenda).>hippies created aidsNo, it was Bushmeat and arrived in the US via Haiti. HIV is actually an old virus. It was known was SIV and it only infected monkeys/apes before it spread to human as HIV. It's how a lot of zoonotic diseases are infected by human. Smallpox came from cowpox for example and the common flu came from pigs. The Neolithic Plague that destroyed Old Europe before the Indo-European expansion came from this btw since they were the first to breed domesticated animals on a large scale and grains attracts rats.>Historically, most of the "History's major killers" (as CGPGrey called them) also emerged from wild species:>Smallpox from rodents 16,000+ years ago (Li et al 2007)>Typhus is spread by human and rodent parasites (Bechah et al 2008)>Mumps has ties to bats (Drexler et al 2012), but also possible links to pigs so perhaps this one is a wash>Tuberculosis has been co-evolving with humans for some 40,000 years (Wirth et al 2008), and while it was initially filtered out of population of the first Americans, it made its way to the Pre-Columbian Americas via seals / sea lions (Bos et al 2014)>The Black Death - spread by rodents and their parasites (Brubaker 2015)>Additionally, Cholera isn't a zoonotic disease at all (Lutz et al 2013)>Malaria appears to have originated from gorillas (Liu et al 2010) and is, of course, spread by mosquitoes.>Cocoliztli was the single greatest killer in colonial Mexico (killing up to 17 million people in the 1540s alone) and originated in rodents (Acuna-Soto et al 2002)>HIV emerged from SIV, its simian counterpart (Sharp and Hahn 2011)
>>18411746>infiltrate black neighborhoods with crackNegroes have had a bad reputation for being junkies since the 30s.>Harry Jacob Anslinger (May 20, 1892 – November 14, 1975) was an American government official who served as the first commissioner of the U.S. Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics during the presidencies of Herbert Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy. He was a supporter of Prohibition, and of the criminalization of all drugs except for alcohol, spearheading anti-drug policy campaigns. Anslinger has been characterized as an early proponent of the war on drugs, as he zealously advocated for and pursued harsh drug penalties, cannabis in particula>In the 1930s, Anslinger's anti-cannabis articles often contained racist themes, for example:>“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”>“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”>"Colored students at the Univ. of Minn. partying with (white) female students, smoking [marijuana] and getting their sympathy with stories of racial persecution. Result: pregnancy.">"Two Negroes took a girl fourteen years old and kept her for two days under the influence of hemp. Upon recovery she was found to be suffering from syphilis."
