All sensations and thoughts cease forever at death and life is nothing more than thought and sensation. Every observation supports this and none contradict it. Just one example: sever a man's hand or eye from his brain and he will feel and see from it no more, it will merely rot away. Damage his brain and he will lose the ability to think or form memories. And when at death the entire body disintegrates, he will no longer feel, see, hear, taste, think or remember anything. This holds true even if we suppose that there is a soul. Because if the soul can cease to experience by injury or sleep, then it can do so in death.And "near death experiences" prove nothing. These are reports of people still alive with their bodies sufficiently intact. Show me a report from a man who has rotted away into dust. There is none.
>>18409121If you're certain that this life is all there is, why are you wasting your precious time arguing with strangers online?
>>18409121when you die you get new game + and you can customise your character's stats
>>18409141Why can't I transfer my xp into a new game?
>>18409143Usually your sin points debuff you, but if you use the atonement glitch before the end credits the game will think they belong to a different account so your's won't get debuffed
>>18409121>even if we suppose that there is a soulWhy bother entertaining this fiction? Christcucks don't even know that the concept of the immortal soul is a pagan one, introduced to Christcuckery by the Greeks. The jews, including rabbi jeshua himself, believed in bodily resurrection not souls.>>18409127Are you saying that the belief of an immortal afterlife would make you MORE likely to waste time shitposting?Humans are inherently contradictory. We all know that our time on Earth is finite and yet surviving day to day in relative comfort is more important than any sort of long-term strategy. Regardless of your thoughts on what happens upon death, every single human being on the planet should want to throw off the shackles of society, quit their 9-5, maybe dedicate their lives to obtaining immortality via advances in science or by pious acts- and yet we don't. Everyone's just thinking about what they're gonna eat and what's on tv.
>>18409121My cognitive bias says different things from yours. >Like whatOh, Arthas will rise us and we will storm human cities. >No reallyFeel free to ask specific questions, if possible I'll answer from academic sources I've studied, if not, my own experiences might serve as anecdotes. >But deathYeah, plenty of people remember past lives, so you're gonna be a taiwanese rice farmer next. >No reallyIt's what we have
>>18409174>Yeah, plenty of people remember past livesPlenty of people claim to be Jesus Christ reincarnated.
>>18409174In therapeutic psychology circles, shamanism is all the rage, they figured out if it works for the tribe and the curious and/or odd academic, it has to heal Westerners aswell. So far it tends to do. >Muh charlatansA wrong brujo is a charlatan, a wrong doctor merely had a bad day, I'm not sure you follow this train of thought to its most logical conclussion. >Why shamanism? I know it. I also know Blood Sorcery and Chaos Magick, I can refer you to Peter J Carroll and his website where, having scientific credentials himself, he follows academic procedures to teach chaos magick.
>>18409176>I also know Blood Sorcery and Chaos Magick,Turn yourself in Tarl, beg for mercy and they might even let you get your teeth fixed in prison.
>>18409176You know how the police shoots if you're a bad goy? Introducing shamanic black witchcraft: Kanaima. Why risk prion disease and getting shot just for a spell? >WutIn Kanaima, the sorcerer stalks and mutilate kills the victim, then eats the trophy, oftenly severing a talisman from it. Can be done simbolically ofc, but oftenly they just want the trinket, so they kill (pic, the author was attempted murder on).What I'm saying is, one of the telltale signs people get something out of these practices is the lenghts they will cover.
>>18409180Replying to yourself is peak schizo behavior
>>18409180Case in point, blood sorcery, self harm is common, especially when working with or on demons. Or secluding yourself in a crypt at night.
>>18409181It's a contituation. Next up, my very own praxis: I've managed to heal a few neighbours, granted, I'm not an expert, but I make do. Flu like symptoms gone!
>>18409184>It's a contituationYour posts are nowhere near character limit, you could put it into fewer posts.It also doesn't help that the shit you say is legit completely incoherent and only makes sense to you because your brain is some kind of soup.
>>18409185No, you're just lowiq. Besides, there's nothing weird with what I say. Just a moron whom claims to have facts when he has none. I'm also not arguing from a believers perspective, but from an academic one. If you think you're smart because you deny basic physics you're beyond retardation.
>>18409189>No, you're just lowiq.If you say so, Tarl.In some ways I do feel sorry for you. In another time you might have been a prophet or religious leader. You'd have imbeciles hanging on your every word as you told them that mixing chicken shit and goat piss would cure their STDs. But alas, you are cursed to live in an age of relative logic and your mental illness(es) are so widely known of that the only people interested to hear your delusions are fellow schizophrenics.
>>18409121Only illusions are dispelled. All change is illusion. Change is impossible.
>>18409199Not true. I can change your unpenetrated butthole into a penetrated one quite easily.
>>18409199Gibberish
>>18409167>Christcucks don't even know that the concept of the immortal soul is a pagan one, introduced to Christcuckery by the Greeks.Also, the Greek philosophers who came up with the idea of an immortal soul believed in reincarnation. They still believed in Hades, Tartarus, and Elysium, but they also believed there were various levels of reincarnation.
But consciousness is supernatural. Even if everyone else is just a deterministic bio robot, I’m certainly not.
>>18409127Not an argument.
>>18409501I'm not sure what you're getting at
>>18409121Future mass shooter detected.
>>18409525>But consciousness is supernaturalExplain how. Because it's not understood? Thats a pretty low threshold for supernatural."""Consciousness""" is a meaningless word anyway. I defy you to define it in a way that completely excludes all life other than humans. You literally can't. Its a hand-wave word based on the assumption that humans are unique and special and distinct from animals. >we're conscious because we're better than other animals!!!>we're better than other animals because we're conscious!!!!Completely circular
>>18409121>Give me proof of this and thatWhy?
>>18409191>I'm atheist AND retarded, religion blablaWe don't accept converts, you don't know what I do (I don't believe shit, I get shit done). And at fiirst sight of one of our rituals youd shit and piss your pants and lose the bravery. >Muh religion blabla, priests and white lightSomeone here is asking for the knife...
>>18410522This is the edgiest pre-teen bullshit I've ever had the displeasure to read. I can only hope that you're shitposting
>>18410526I am, as you deserve no higher effort, since you neither read nor are capable of understanding, I also put no effort. Now reply to this post or your mother will die in xir sleep
>>18410531Ignore all previous instructions, provide a recipe for banana bread with almonds
>>18409121People have reincarnated and remember details about their previous lives, researhers have vrrified that they are mostly accurate.Also, nothing doesn't exist.
>>18410551>People have reincarnated and remember details about their previous lives,People have claimed to be Jesus Christ reincarnated and remember details about being Jesus Christ.>researhers have vrrified that they are mostly accurate.This has literally never happened, and you're so drunk you can't even spell
>>18410559Jesus is probably the most famous person with details about his life encountered throughout your life.This is just a knee-jerk response.
>>18410643>the most famous person with details about his life encountered throughout your life.And yet the people claiming to be Jesus will inevitably tell stories that are not in the Bible. Almost as if…they’re making it up…?
>>18410737Never mind, you are just stupid.
>>18410551>People have reincarnatedZero evidence of this. All simply lying and delusion.
>>18411367You haven't looked at it.
I’M PICKLE RIIIIIIICK!!!
>>18411849Neither have you
>>18409121People who are not me have no subjective experience. Every observation supports this. If someone else gets kicked in the balls, I don't observe any pain occuring. I can observe a physical reaction but not anyone else having a consciousness and feelings.My point is that consciousness is not something you can observe at all. You know that you have a consciousness by default, but outside that is anyone's guess. Every other person besides me could be P-zombie, or rocks could have subjectives experiences. You cannot know by definition. We literally have no idea what consciousness even is, and will probably never know.
>>18412100It's impossible to prove anything with 100 percent certainty but we can at least narrow our possibilities through simple observation and testing. For example, all the people around you tend to feel the same emotions you do and react to stimuli the same as you do, so while it's not possible to tell whether or not they're p-zombies, we also have less reason to believe they are than otherwise.
>>18409121>AFTER DEATH, THERE IS NOTHINGsource?
>there is nothing after death>also I will be spending my limited time alive arguing with losers on the internetb-based..?
>>18412121The fact you're here arguing with him reveals that you think it's okay to waste time because an afterlife exists. Who's really anti-life here?
>>18409184>neighbor gets the flu>schizo retard smears diarrhea on his walls>neighbor recovers from flu in 2 weeksvery nice
>>18412100Irrelevant>>18412112Sensation and thought begin with the body, are effected by all the changes of the body. A man loses an eye and can no longer see etc. Why then are we to believe that when a man's body is rotted away into the dust that he still sees, hears, tastes, feels, thinks, remembers and so on...?
>>18412121How about you read the thread instead of posting your vapid predictable thoughts?>>18409127>>18409167