Did the reformation fail?
>>18409828Yea and no the Catholic Church basically adopted 90% of he wanted in Vatican II but the Protestant churches he produced trooned out
>>18409828>>18409831You're speaking Protestant right now
>>18409828It's main objective of the subjection of the priest class to the merchants and aristocracy was a complete and utter rout for Catholicism, even in predominantly Catholic countries of the modern day given the dominance of secular republics. It was more of a readjustment of society to the material conditions as they actually were than what the priests wanted them to be
>>18409828Luther is the father of OSAS, the wickedest belief on earth. It's the belief that God does not have to be feared and will forgive all evil things you do no matter what as long as you call Christ Lord Lord a bunch of times.
>>18409828>Brings back hermeneutics instead of popish allegory >Introduces common literacy >Papists seeth about him to this dayHis legacy cannot be undone, the fact that you can read this is due to Luther.
>>18410014>No, you have to confess to Father Rodriguez, and THEN god forgives you for mutilating your cartel rival with a rusty machete o algo
>>18410014Were does Luther teach OSAS?
>>18410021Nothing good has come out of mass literacy.
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>>18410033You wouldn't be able to type that if it weren't for Luther. But go ahead, try to undo your own literacy.
>>18410046Luther never said this.
>>18410061He said this: "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly... No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day
>>18410033Yeah the explosion in latinx e-caths shitting up this board is a good example of that
>>18410014I really dont understand how OSAS is supposed to work and via what mechanism someone could know they have entered the "Saved" category. "Oh yes i believed in Christ yesterday, now I will murder this child for Baal". Is that really the jist?
>>18410089Ask ChatGPT to explain the text for you
>>18409828That is a social construct you made up in your head and you live in a bubble. All that ever happened was mass literacy.
>>18409831like many people, he saw problems not solutions.Luther was vehemently against corruption, which he was succesful againHe then sought to institute his own beliefs, which were whacky
>>18410026You wish that was it; the priests were taking bribes for forgiveness
>>18410014Calvin invented OSAS not Luther Luther thought you had to remain within the church at a minimum to be saved meaning being baptized and taking communion regularly
The Reformation was a great work of God>>18410155You don’t know what Calvin taught
>>18409828Yes because catholics still exist.
I. THE HERETICAL MOVEMENT STARTED BY MARTIN LUTHER WAS NOT A REFORMATION, BUT DEFORMATION.II. IT HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL: THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PROTESTANTISTIC SECTS ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND BILLIONS OF SOULS HAVE BEEN LED ASTRAY IN FIVE CENTURIES, AND MILLIONS OF HUMANS HAVE DIED IN WARS CAUSED BY PROTESTANTS AGAINST CATHOLICS.
>>18410089This doesn't tell you to go out and sin, but that Jesus's power and benevolence is such that there is literally nothing you could do to separate yourself from him in this life. Even if you do commit many sins, his presence is impossible to escape because he is omnipresent. This doesn't mean that he'll hand out salvation to sinners, freely.
>>18410148>OSAS: :|>OSAS (if you have the wallet for it): :O
>>18411440It does mean that. It doesn’t have the Antimonian connotations papists try to spin it as, but Luther is speaking from the impossible to emphasize that no matter how great the believer’s sin is it is not greater than the righteousness of Christ imputed to him by faith, so he has peace with God (Romans 5:1). He didn’t speak like this in a public sermon to laymen, this was from a private letter to Melancthon whom he expected to understand the hyperbole.
>>18411440But this is not true, murderers and adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God.
>>18409828All relevant Christian countries are Protestant and the rest are converting, so yes.
>>18411483The believer no longer stands before the Father as a murderer or an adulterer, but as His own beloved Son.
you can quibble about prior centuries but the 20th century onward has been a total protestant victory especially with vatican 2
>>18411496When he said murderers will not be saved, you're supposed to believe him and stop murdering. That is the sign that you believed him. If you believed him you wouldn't have kept murdering.
>>18409828What are you conditions for success? It failed insofar as it did not come to supplant catholicism, I guess. It also did not produce a cohesive doctrine but instead split into a variety of disparate movements. But the catholic church did fail to exterminate it, and I guess it indirectly lead to the Catholic church reforming itself (a little).>>18409834I'm speaking recusant, good sir.>>18411489>Relevant Christian countriesWhich ones? I don't remember there being any.
>>18410841>You don’t know what Calvin taughtEvil, next question
>>18409828No. Luther achieved his goal of reforming the Catholic Church with Vatican II. Took a while but it happened.
>>18411510Amen.
The pope is the Antichrist
>>18409828Catholics 500 years later: basedProtestants 500 years later: tranniesI'd say it did fail
>>18411606Transphobia is a mortal sin
>>18411606Your pope can't even make a formal statement affirming supercessionism lol
>>18411627Your """"church"""" has priests who aren't sure of their gender.
>>18411607Read the image you posted carefully, I know it's a tall order for an United Stasian
>>18411634Supercessionism is one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity, is it not?
>>18411637Just did it for the 5663883rd time and it’s still vile.
>>18411634>every Protestant church is a liberal apostate hellhole (confessional churches aren’t real they can’t hurt me!)>meanwhile Romish priests in good standing>meanwhile literally the pope >>18411607Keep projecting, it doesn’t do you any good. It’s not my kids they have access to.
>>18411606>Catholics 500 years later: basedhey remember that time the pope saw a photograph of a dead syrian child washed up on a beach, got sad, and ordered every catholic church in europe to take in muslim migrants?
>>18411867it's a 4-d chess move to convert them o algo and even if it doesn't work it was probably the fault of the freemasons/protestants/jews anyway o algo
>>18410089>Be a sinner and sin boldly>>18411440>This doesn't tell you to go out and sinIt does in my English. I can imagine a very generous interpretation that goes>(Though you may) Be a sinner and sin boldly, but (if only you) believe and rejoice in Christ in even more boldly... No sin will separate us from the Lamb.And I would even bet that's probably what he meant, but, as written, it still looks like he's advising that you go out and sin.
>>18411882See >>18411447
>>18409828It succeeded since the Catholic Church surrendered to woketardism. It's unclear how many magacocks are needed to cure this
>>18410014I grew up LCMS and I had never heard OSAS until I went to college and proceeded to laugh the person who said it out of the room.Like imagine that apostasy was never possible. Imagine martyrs were killed by God because they had no option to recant their faith. It's so absurd.
>>18411606trannies over catholics at this point as far as fuel for the discourse goes and turning heads. You yourself not taking catholics over trannies. Welcome to reality.
>>18411606>E Orthodox>based from the get-go
>>18409828He was just an athiest who didn't want to get killed.
