How did Poland manage to grow so rapidly since the 90s?
>>18410219Ukraine is as rich as Poland?
>>18410219>>18410221>comparing poland to a country that has been fighting a five year long three day special military operation>comparing poland and a country that has been sanctioned all the way through its ass and bombed by israel
>>18410236It's a comparison between all countries in the region, you idiot.
>>18410219Let's see if this is a good explanation is good for Poland's success.Unlike Russia and others, which had a messy, oligarch-led transition, Poland's "shock" worked because it was coupled with strong rule-of-law reforms (which often didn't happen elsewhere because "Capitalism. OH! Let's make sure returning to Communism cannot happen no matter the cost. Also I want the loot, Damnit!" ). By 1992, Poland became the first post-communist country to return to GDP growth.Poland joined the EU in 2004, and since then, it has been the largest net recipient of EU development funds. Between 2004 and 2024, the net balance of transfers (what Poland got minus what it paid in) was over €163 billion.If you drive through Poland today, the highways, bridges, and renovated city centers are largely "Product of the EU."The real value of the EU wasn't just the cash; it was access to the Single Market. It allowed Poland to become the "factory of Europe," particularly for Germany.With 38 million people, Poland has a large enough domestic population to sustain growth even when exports are down.Poland negotiated a significant "debt forgiveness" deal with Western creditors in the early 90s, giving the new democracy room to breathe.Poland focused on mass education in the 90s. This created a highly skilled but relatively low-cost workforce that attracted massive Foreign Direct Investment (FDI).Unlike many neighbors, Poland kept its own currency (the Złoty) rather than adopting the Euro.
>>18410237>we used to be as rich as country, now we are as rich as several unrelated countries plus thar country which has been bombed to shit
>>18410219Infinity investments from the wealthy countries of the world and a lot of support. Political stability also helps.>>18410236I mean technically speaking a comparison to Argentina, the 'guays, and Bolivia isn't exactly flattering either.
>>18410242>polish economic growth was not impressive because>unlike ziggers they cared about the rule of law >biggest ex communist country received the most eu gibbs (eu gibbs are also vad unless commie era western debt funded growth) >lost of them not acting like retardsretarded threadfor retards
>>18410219It's crazy how just 15 years ago everybody made fun of them for being plumbers of Europe. Now they are the richest European country.
Never sure if commies think gdp is a meme number or meaningful
>>18410258They are more developed than the other post-communist countries, while not stagnant as the western ones
>>18410363now post 2024/2025
>>18410363Christ, the Balkins and Baltics are such shitholes
>>18410219Remnants of German genetics and industry in western poland. Remember, stalin moved the whole country west.
>>18410219Poland was just about the only former-EastBloc country that didn't privatize literally everything all at once in a giant firesafe for pennies.
>>18410219Lots of foreign investment. Money just flows through Poland. It doesn't actually go to the Poles>>18410464The Germans who used to live there were genocided though. Poland is racially identical to Russia/Ukraine
>>18410219>How did Poland manage to grow so rapidly since the 90s?Poland has a homogenous population.
>>18410515So do Belarus and Ukraine. The difference is they don't have massive EU investment
>>18410464>Remnants of German genetics
>>18410517Some 30% of Ukraine was ethnic Russians, (plus other minorities) why do you think there's a war going on?Belarus is an irrelevant Russian puppet.
>>18410476But we did exactly that ???
>>18410219Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia get rich without joining EU?
>>18410519You mean Brandenburgers (Slav descendents) was divide between Germany and Poland?
>>18410219Without EU money Poland is nothing
>>18410219>How did Poland manage to grow so rapidly since the 90s?Close to economic center of EU so its logistically easy to build industry there.
>>18410817EU money is important but think you miss if it's proper uncorrupted spending. Latvia Bulgaria and Hungry also get lot of gibs but they laundered it and looks like in 90s
>>18410519>Y-HaplogroupsPoles are so fucking stupid
>>18410464>Remnants of German genetics in western polandWestern Poles and Polonized Lithuanians and Catholic Ukranians moved there after 1945.
>>18410363The EU got wrong at soon as it moved eastern than Germany
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>>18410464Outside of Silesia ex-German regions are shitholes though.
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>>18410219their foreign policy and diplomatic corps were on point. >inb4 wtf do foreigners have to do with Poland STRONG!??They didn't get bogged down in the past and territorial squabbles and accepted reality for what it was relinquishing all past border disputes in both the east and west and were fully committed to cooperation with western Europe and integrating their market, military, and society with the West without any pretense that they could soldier on alone. Because they had just left the Soviet rape dungeon and they weren't looking back or ever going into it again. Nationalists forget that being part of Europe and the European sphere was integral to Polands rise and that opposing increased cooperation and unity with Europe can only be a detriment to national interests in a world dominated by the USA, Russia and China. Where small independent actors can bluster about pride and nationhood as loud as they please but will ultimately be beholden to foreign powers that out arm and out spend any one small nation.
>>18410363Fucking Luxembourgers.
>>18410519The Soviets should've forced East Germans to speak Sorbian.
>>18410519y-dna as a something important in dna studies. bro i can bring you some arab with r1a and would you call him a slav? it tells nothing about your genetic profile. use autosomal dna instead
>>18410363At least the Poles use the eu gibs for something useful. Here in czechia the eu gibs are largely gobbled up by billionaires and corrupt bureaucrats. There are dozens of cases in which some villages built extremely expensive watchtowers in fucking valleys. There was another case of some town building dozens of shitty benches in a park nobody goes to and each bench cost like 3000 euros.
>>18412453East germans cluster with western Poles and Czechs anyway right?
EU money is bound to end one day
>>18412511Here in Bulgaria, "we" use them to build villas and expensive football stadiums in tiny villages.
>>18412514>East germans cluster with western Poles and Czechs anyway right?East "Germans" are Poles and Czechs.
>>18410219They defaulted on all of their debts in the 90s.>>18410242"Rule of law" is rule of lawyer, retard. Words on paper do not rule anything.
They did not fall for the neoliberal meme anywhere close to the extent other Eastern European countries did. That's the main reason.>>18411805Dude, their entire national identity is in their grievances against Germany and Russia.
>>18410247Its a fair comparison, you fucking nigger. No amount of sojak spam is going to help your point further.
>>18413212>They defaulted on all of their debts in the 90s.They did not, you dumb ass.>"Rule of law" is rule of lawyer, retard. Words on paper do not rule anything.Yes they do, you nigger.
>>18413218Poland is literally primary example of neoliberalism introduction in Eastern Europe it just was better managed and governed. Where do you people take your info ???
>>18413219The only fair comparison is the South American one. The other ones show irrelevant non-countries and active war zones.
>>18410363Oh no no no!
