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>request american aid
>get denied
>request sovist aid
>get killed for it
Okay but genuinely why didn't America want to support Lumumba? It would have brought them to conflict with Belgium but they weren't exactly thrilled by their support of Katanga either.
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They are colonists who wanted to strip mine the state.
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>>18410850
Justice for Tshombe
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>>18410850
Americans didn't want to support a black leader that was friendly with Euros, they wanted a chimper that would harass Europeans
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the same reason the US supported Castro at first in the '50s. Topsy-turvy scatterbrained interpretations as to who was le dangerous commie and who wasn't.
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>>18410850
Lumumba was a childish retard that literally threw a tantrum in front of the American UN envoy when he turned down a request for UN intervention in Katanga (with the UN providing military support to the government at a later date)

>>18411389
If that was the case they would've (actually) backed Tshombe, Lumumba was the chimper in this instance.
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more like
>granted independence because belgians can't find a fuck to give anymore
>can't form a government because the politicians are tribal chiefs and cattle salesmen and act the part
>soldiers expect a whole lot of gibs, none to be had
>start rioting, looting and killing whitey immediately
>politicians start doimg petty warlord shit because
you can take em out of the mudhut but you can't take the mudhut out of em, c'est la vie
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>>18411462
/thread

Plus he looked zesty AF
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>>18410850
No oil.

Angola had oil, so the USA supported UNITA.

Fanning the flames for a bloody 30 year long civil war.
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>>18411462
>the politicians are tribal chiefs and cattle salesmen and act the part
They were all pretty mucb military or bureaucrats who's main experiance eith western style governance was corruption and graft rampant in the Belgian Congo that incentivized brown-nosing over everything else.
>soldiers expect a whole lot of gibs, none to be had
That wasn't the reason why

>>start rioting, looting and killing whitey immediately
>politicians start doimg petty warlord shit because
Because foreign interests backed them lop.

>>18411570
Having glasses and trimmed haircut is zesty?

>>18411374
Tshombe was a literal mining industry plant.

>>18411443
>Lumumba was a childish retard that literally threw a tantrum in front of the American UN envoy when he turned down a request for UN intervention in Katanga
What did you expect him to do? The UN wasn't exactly an instant panacea and seeing the US get mad at him accepting soviet military officer help after rejecting him shred how fucked the affair was.
>Lumumba was the chimper in this instance
Stop saying words you don't understand
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>>18410850
why he wearing middle aged white woman glasses? and why is he puckering his lips like that, I don't like the look on that buck's face
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>>18411394
>the US supported Castro at first in the '50s
I'm gonna need some citations on that.
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>>18411287
Except they (the US) opposed the existence of Katanga which was literally strip mine, the state.
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>>18411652
>What did you expect him to do?
>"You need to get the UN to liberate this secessionist territory NOW"
>"Look, we can't just-"
>*autistic screeching*

>Stop saying words you don't understand
I was responding to a post you clearly didn't understand, in a comparison of Lumumba and Tshombe only a retard would think Tshombe was the one harassing Europeans

Next time don't mass reply if you're a fuckwit
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>Lumumba made a desperate attempt to mobilize African support for military action against Katanga by convening a Conference of African Foreign Ministers in Leopodville at the end of August 1960
>But the chaos prevailing in Leopodville and Lumumba's impetuous temperament filled his guests with serious misgivings about the whole project. In the end they recommended action through the United Nations, politely declining requests for bilateral aid.

>In the face of this rebuff Lumumba launched his unruly army against Kasai and Katanga, the enterprise ended in a hopeless fiasco, the troops falling on the unfortunate Baluba tribe in Kasai, who were mercilessly butchered, the objective of Katanga's overthrow being drowned in tribal warfare

Yeah I'm thinking based
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>>18411389
I sense some resentment in this post
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>>18410850
That mf def sucked a dick atleast once
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>>18411921
His ass.
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>>18411652
>Tshombe was a literal mining industry plant
And that's a good thing. Katanga was the only piece of Congo that wasn't a shithole, both during and after the colonial period
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>>18411652
>>18412301
Also might I add that he was the only public figure that was actually capable enough to handle the simba rebels
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>>18411931
He accomplished more dead, as a martyr, than alive, as a president, for african independence
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>>18411922
they didn't want to negotiate with settlers who wouldn't be ripped off as easily



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