In other words, essentialy, christainity is a hellenised judaism with its own hellenistic-universalist teachings based upon Greek writings in judaistic setting embracing also (as an essential, nonetheless lateral thing) Torah and old prophet books etc, called collectively Old Testament.Right or wrong take?
>>18411104The old testament written, on paper, was copied to suit the writers preference from a much older source. That source is called the Enuma Elish, scribed on clay tablets, 4000 years before the old testament.
Yeah, Christianity has a lot of Greek influences. I wouldn't say Judaism didn't also evolve alongside but they don't seem to have as much Theology that takes directly from the Greeks.
>>18411104What you're not getting is that Judaism itself is Hellenistic. The Torah came after Hellenistic culture hit the Levant. That's why it rips off Plato.
What hath Athens to do with Jerusalem?
>>18411104Christianity rejects polytheism, from that alone it cannot be considered anything more than Judaism lite.
>>18411104The Old Testament makes up the majority of the Bible anon. It may have some Hellenistic influence but it's mostly Judaic.
>>18411118>Enuma ElishWhy tf did ancient Middle Easterners give their religious writings names that sounded like shit straight outta Fate/stay night?
>>18411439Most christians hate the old testament.
>>18411539Demonstrably false. The Old Testament is a fundamental part of the Bible as it contains the foundational myths that Christianity itself is built on. Some people have tried to do away with the OT and it simply doesn't work. The random Chuds that lurk this board are not "most Christians"
>>18411536The Babylonian creation myth is called that because “Enuma Elish” are the first two words of it and in Akkadian the phrase literally means “when on high.”
>>18411539>>18411543Read The Epistle of Barnabas on how they actually read the OT.
>>18411536nasu was a true visionary who transcended time itself
>>18411118existing within genre conventions does not mean you "copied" something else. The Hebrew Bible does many, many things differently from the earlier Sumerian and Babylonian texts.
>>18411536Japanese people like putting names from mesopotamian, zoroastrian, and semitic mythology into their games because they sound exotic and spooky
>>18411723Porophyry of Tyre (234 - 305 AD) on Christians and the Old Testament: "Some persons, desiring to find a solution of the baseness of the Jewish Scriptures rather than abandon them, have had recourse to explanations inconsistent and incongruous with the words written, which explanations, instead of supplying a defense of the foreigners, contain rather approval and praise of themselves. For they boast that the plain words of Moses are enigmas, and regard them as oracles full of hidden mysteries; and having bewildered the mental judgment by folly, they make their explanations."
>>18411549>“when on high.”
>>18411995The ancient levant was known to use cannabis ritualistically
They are both Hellenistic because both are conjured up after religion had already been turned entertainment for the masses and included Venus (a female character) into the pantheon.
>>18411104It's all eastern. "Hellenism" is eastern. Plato learned from Phoenicians. Pythagoras was Phoenician. It really goes more east than Phoenicia though. It's in Zoroastrianism, which takes us to Bactria.There are many features of Christianity. Some of them, like themes of an elite insider revealing inside information and throwing his insider buddies out of their office (bankers thrown out of the temple), go unnoticed and unmentioned.The most important feature is it elevates rational thought above all else, and this somehow has become confused for the opposite. Christianity is essentially slavish devotion to the concept that the mind triumphs over matter. Christianity is proof that ideology is a horseshoe: you push for the truth so hard, and then remain in such utter belief of that partial truth, that you create a mythology out of it but can no longer see the mythology for yourself. This entire horseshoe process is what creates the mind control trap.This is the single, core concept that you can trace from far eastern sources to all Abrahamic religions that deal with this in slightly different ways.Syria/Judea/Arabia only appears to be the central origin of these religions because these were areas in between larger empires. The larger empires could organize ideology in their region, or if they maintained an open society (eg Greece), they could repel any radical movement that would end their openness.In other words, Abrahamic religions are gnostic philosophies practiced in the backwoods and small desert towns. We can say Jesus' movement was a recognition of the gnosticism but seeking an end to the backwards nature of things, but Christianity a couple hundred years after Jesus was the pre-Jesus version of Christianity (backwoods, fundamentalist crap) mixed with state religion (everything the empire does is good, "universalism" justifies our dominance, etc).
>>18412161>The most important feature is it elevates rational thought above all else,To clarify, this is why Zoroastrianism argues Asuras > Devas. These aren't real people or historical groups. It's metaphorical. Asura = thought, Deva = body.This is why the core Christian sin is wrongthink. This is why you can confess to end your sin, and you can be baptised on a whim but actually be cleaned in the eyes of the church. It's all thought.And even more specifically, the "god" concept of the oldest part of the Bible, the Torah, is the rational actor in the self. It is often experienced as a shadow because people are emotional beings that have rational processes going on without their full awareness. The discovery of these processes are supposed to be akin to "finding god".
>>18412165>Asura = thought, Deva = body.Actually, not the best translation.Asura = conscious thought, or components of conscious thoughtDevas = "daemons" in greek terminology, subconscious thought, subprocesses, and this includes and is caused (in part) by the body
>>18411104bloody Hades shows up in Revelation and christcucks huff on copium and claim it's just a word for the underworld when hades himself had only been a god for a few hundred years before that
